Tricks Of The Trade: Kharaa

JeebusJeebus Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7967Members Posts: 21
I posted some Tricks for marines so i figure its only fair if i help the alien bretheren as well! here goes

-Yellow circles are enemies that are being seen by an ally, white circles are friends/hives, Red Circles are Friends/hives/buildings under attack

-Parasite allows you to see the targted unit with a yellow circle around it UNTIL IT DIES this is an in game wall hack for aliens, Parasite also works on marine buildings

-You can hide behind buildings to prevent turrets from shooting you, and can sometimes take out entire bases by yourself because a commander didnt defend all sides of his turret factory

-if your a gorge there is no reason NOT to place webs put them everywhere! and marines will be hesitant to go that direction

-If a marine touches a sensory chamber he becomes parasited

-movement chambers can be used to go to the hive farthest away from your location

-lerks can glide by holding down the jump button, this uses no energy

-if you are fighting a marine at a distance as a skulk DONT BOTHER, he will destroy you, you must wait till you start fighting within meele range or until he somehow expends his ammunition (hide behind corners, on cealings ECT)

-The proper way to use charge for onos is to press the button ONCE, and keep pressing foward into anything you want to die, This works extremely well on anything including buildings (works MUCH better if you Duck while attacking buildings)

-Umbra and Primal scream effect all units around you in addition to yourself, and both are VERY useful

-Spore cloud doesnt damage buildings

-To better see your buildings as an alien Press the Flash light key (default F) and they will become bright, If you upgrade advanced hivesight the enemy will also become bright

-bind <key you want to assign> "impulse 7" allows you chukle at the touch of a button ;o (example. bind f "impulse 7"

-Leap for skulks does very little damage and is moslty useful for getting around the map

-The best way to blink as a fade is to jump, Duck and then blink for best results or just duck, if you still have difficulties aim a little above the target your aiming for. >>>WARNING<<< you can blink into Doors and other objects in the game that are not stationary like walls

-An evil tactic (but sometimes very effective) is to let your friend go out into a cluster of marines and run around like a mad man when he dies count 2 seconds and then go out yourself, Half if not more of the marines will be reloading

-If the hive mind says "structure under attack" thats your cue to get a free kill. ALL marines attacking buildings are pretty much guarenteed to be unprepared for a skulk coming up behind them.

-You do not collect resources while you are dead

Thats about it for now, may add more later, Feel free to post your own as well smile.gif


  • XorSloopXorSloop Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8510Members Posts: 10
    Good comments except the following:
    >if your a gorge there is no reason NOT to place webs put them everywhere! and marines will be hesitant to go that direction
    Yes, there is a reason not to place webs everywhere. There is a limit of webs in the game so if one newbie puts all the webs in front of one hive, web will become unusable elsewhere. My Advice: Put webs where they have the most use, i.e. placed just right in front of offencive towers so that a marine who wants to shoot turrets has to walk into a web just at the point where the turrets see him. That way he will be stuck and shot upon. That usually discourages them a little. Webs are best used with a teammate attacker hiding around the corner. Shoot one web diagonally on a wall and start building (at this point the web is not active). If an enemy walks into the room and starts shooting (you should hear him coming if your awake and careful) shoot the web on the ground in front of the marine (you could be shooting from cover without him seeing you if you setup this with some intelligence and a little thought). The enemy will be stuck and easy kill.
  • PheralPheral Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8473Members Posts: 31
    i like putting them right over the top of the ground, maybe a few inches above. That way you dont have all these webs all over the place and the marines dont even bother... i mean, you want the kill dont you? tounge.gif asrifle.gif tiny.gif confused.gif
  • JeebusJeebus Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7967Members Posts: 21
    Ahh i was unaware of the game limit, i just thought there was the limit to the number of webs in one area
  • RandomEngyRandomEngy Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6146Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 412
    Cool, thanks, there's always something you don't know. I had no idea about the lerk gliding thing.
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  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members Posts: 3,051 Fully active user
    QUOTE (Jeebus @ Nov 14 2002, 03:54 AM)
    -lerks can glide by holding down the jump button, this uses no energy

    i don't know about you but for me, this only lets me slow my decent, and i find it quite useless sad.gif
  • Evil_TimmyEvil_Timmy Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2350Members Posts: 272
    -You can hide behind buildings to prevent turrets from shooting you, and can sometimes take out entire bases by yourself because a commander didnt defend all sides of his turret factory

    I absolutely agree with this...most commanders (especially newer ones) drop their turret factories close to a wall, so a single skulk can take out a TF, 3-4 turrets, a resource tower, and an armory. I've turned the tide of a game by doing this two or three times. And if you've practiced your circle-strafing skills, you can hold walk (Shift, by default) and circle around right next to a turret, nibbling it while it tries (unsuccessfully) to track you. If there's other turrets (and they're not right next to the other one), you're protected by the first turret's hitbox half the time, and usually the turret factory the rest of the time. You usually only need to take down one to get at the TF, anyways.
  • SkippySkippy Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8385Members Posts: 49
    Something evil you might try.

    You need two sulks for this, one as bait and one as the hunter. Bait sulk should have regen, hive sight and celerity. Hunter sulh should have regen, cloaking and celerity.

    Find a vent atht's near a high traffic location. Have the bait sulk hide just in view of anyone who walks by while the hunter sticks to the wall opposite to the vent.

    Here's how it usually goes down: a marine runs by and sees the bait sulk shooting at him.The bait imediately backs up into the vent a little ways. Mr marine goes opposite the vent to get a better look and WHAM. The hunter drops onto his head and munches on his brain, killing him.


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  • DarkJaguarDarkJaguar Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4874Members Posts: 45
    another very annoying tactic if you're a lerker, hidein a vent while mariens are building sometihng, occasionally pop out and spike them all, it takes about 3 seconds to realize they're takign damage, and another 3 to pull out their guns, thats enough to drop at least one marine and cause them to be paranoid, also if you have "chuckle" bound to a key, chuckle randomly to make them think that your coming, and sometiems do, keep them off their feet and youll have yourself a thanksgiving human at your hive table ^.^
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  • RokiyoRokiyo A.K.A. .::FeX::. Revenge Join Date: 2002-10-10 Member: 1471Members, Constellation Posts: 1,564
    Gliding as a Lerk:
    When you hold jump, you keep moving in the same direction at the same speed you were at before. So if you want to maintain a constant speed in a straight line, just glide without using your forward key.

    Changing directions will require you to flap a bit, and is very tricky to do well. If you have been gliding in one direction and try to turn a right angle , you will keep gliding in the same direction for a while.

    If you are just trying to hover in the air, you will still need to flap regularly to keep your height the same, but you can hold the jump button for a fraction of a second each time to save a little on energy.
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  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members Posts: 1,597
    more tricks

    -you can use the skulk 'leap' ability to leap additional distance/in a new direction even while mid-flight for your first leap.

    -blink can be used to take no damage from falls. Just jump off the ledge, look straight down, and blink. You'll appear on the ground with no damage taken.

    -to wallwalk (as skulk) from a wall to the ceiling, you have to turn away from the wall and face up into the cieling. attempting to look higher and higher (ie inverting your view) will not work

    -you can quickly know if your parasite hit a legal target or not. If you shoot it and it just goes 'shoof' you missed. If it goes 'shoof tack' you hit a marine or building and successfully parasited it.

    -regeneration makes noise. If you are cloaked or hiding in a dark corner while regenerating, marines probably wont see you, but they might hear you.

    -the fades acid rock can be used to safely detonate marine mines from a distance.

    -the skulk's parasite attack can be used to activate switches/elevators/doors, anything that you would normally hit 'use' on.

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  • b00jahb00jah Join Date: 2002-10-26 Member: 1613Members Posts: 36
    I never knew that little tid-bit about using parasite to open doors. Lovely.
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  • zodazoda Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7175Members Posts: 257
    nice tips
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  • tanathostanathos Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4949Members Posts: 225
    QUOTE (Typhon @ Nov 16 2002, 07:26 AM)
    -the skulk's parasite attack can be used to activate switches/elevators/doors, anything that you would normally hit 'use' on.

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  • FossaFossa Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6931Members Posts: 154
    edited November 2002
    For lots of fun. sit cloaked some place out of the way near a door where you can still see the hall way. Wait for a marine to approach the door.
    Open the door for them with parasite
    Hit which ever key you bound impulse 7 to laugh maniacaly
    shred them as they frantically search for you on the other side of the door.

    Be careful of your gliding key, in the tunnel on bast I flapped like 6 times, was going REALLY fast, and I glided, into the wall. BAM! Like a bird into a wind sheild. I died.
  • Sephiroth2kSephiroth2k Join Date: 2002-04-21 Member: 481Members, Constellation Posts: 814
    o crap, u die if u go really fast into a wall? *rethinks suicide attacking approach*

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  • WraithmanWraithman Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8600Members Posts: 48
    I am a major fan of the lerk and i've gotten going extremely fast before and never died from running into a wall. you sure you didnt get shot or run into a mine or something? I didnt think that was possible. would be good to know though.
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    I would have to agree with wraithman on that one - I've never seen that happen, and I'm a hummingbird on crack when I play lerk. Maybe it has to do with the glide, or maybe there is a teeny little map bug there (I doubt it though, that map r0x0r5).
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  • FossaFossa Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6931Members Posts: 154
    Flap, glide, flap, glide, dont touch the ceiling or walls, get going really fast, hit something, CRUNCH. Try it in the refinery too. Higher ceiling is easier.
  • WraithmanWraithman Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8600Members Posts: 48
    mabey you need flying lessons! heheh jk
  • mavenmaven Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7553Members Posts: 3
    if you leap, switch to bite, switch back to leap, leap again (ie leap during a leap) it doubles your speed and you die if you hit a wall, have done it several times
  • DjbirdfeedDjbirdfeed Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9388Members Posts: 9

    Hope number 1: Hope the marines dont put plexiglass in the corridors and

    Hope number 2: If they do, hope they run out of Windex...

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  • PetitMortePetitMorte Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7232Members Posts: 201
    edited November 2002
    Just a coupla bits of Alien strategy for folks.

    I play a lotta Gorge, and love it, so most of this is Gorgy stuff. pudgy.gif

    One thing to remember, you're the slow, buildem type, but you're also capable of taking out a whole marine base by yourself. Not with your puny spitgun, but with your webs, your healing mist (it kills marines) and your BABBLERS!!!!

    Put those webs where the marines would HATE to run into em...

    -inside elevator shafts (the ells go thru em and the marines get stuck)
    -doorways (especially the door to the marine base)
    -around corners from O-chamber or D-chamber clusters

    Remember, you can place webs from a pretty fair distance away, and the Flashlight thingy shows em up nice and white on your screen if you have trouble seeing them.

    Everyone ALWAYS underestimates the power of the Babbler attack. A single marine with a LMG sees a Gorge waddling down a hallway and thinks easy kill. The next thing he knows the Gorge is vomiting up a whole pack of mini-Skulks who are depleting his ammo and taking chunks out of his armor. He backs into a web and stops shooting and the Gorge chuckles as the babblers tear the marine to shreds.

    If you have adrenaline, you can pump out enough Babblers to not only overrun a base, but to keep the marines from doing anything more than defending too! Gonna take out a room fulla turrets? Stand outside and throw babblers at em! Got some Onos attacking a filled room? Send in a posse of babblers first! (distracts the turrets!) See a bunch of mines up ahead? Babblers!

    skulk.gif Babblers... Crunch all you want, we'll make more. skulk.gif

    There's nothing more amusing than hiding in a vent, unleashing a steady stream of babblers into a heavily fortified marine emplacement.

    One thing to watch for tho, is that the game is pretty darn sensitive (buggy?) about where you are standing/facing when you produce a babbler. Keep in mind that the babbler is produced both ahead and above you. (the tips of it's rear feet will appear about a foot in front of your crosshair) If there's anything remotely near the place where the babbler would 'spawn', you lose the energy of birth, but no babbler is produced. Try and launch your babies high and in the direction you want them to go. They're pretty stupid and will mill around until they see a marine or marine structure.

    Some floors won't let you babble without jumping up off of them. When you're trying to babble on an up-slanted floor either aim really high or try jumping while you shoot. If at all possible, try to babble downhill or while hanging out of a vent. IE: When you're playing ns_bast and are in the vent by the marine start, you have to be just below the top of the slope, off to the right, facing diagionally toward the opening to produce babblers.

    Anyhoo, on to building things.

    Whenever you build ANYTHING, try to drop a D-tower or 2 near it. A line of O towers will last annoyingly longer if you have D's helping them. Also, try and hide the D towers if you can. Their healing goes thru walls, so drop em where marines can't see em. Put them on the floor below a platform, or in those little areas on the side of coridors. They work well underwater too. Anyplace that they won't be immediately noticed but are within range of other structures.

    Another fun D-chamber trick is to make "Healing Stations" of 7 to 8 D-towers near marine outposts. That way you or your teammates can indulge in hit-n-run tactics. An Onos or Fade can run in, kill a lot of things before getting low on health, run out to your healing statation and heal back up FAST for another run on the base. (Watch out for sonic cannons tho) These healing stations can be on the other side of a wall or sunken alongside a hallway to keep them not only out of sight, but out of the way. Be sure to spit up a few webs near your stations to annoy any marines trying to clear you out.

    Remember that Onos have a tough time moving around, and if you can keep an area clear, do it. Try to keep movement in mind when placing O-towers too. 3 towers in a row will block most hallways, but 2 in front and 1 a bit behind will allow movement thru the line a lot easier.

    A fun place to put O towers is snuggled right up to a closed door. The marines open the door and get a face full of surprize goo!

    Try placing O towers diagonally across intersections. That way they can all get a clear shot in both directions. Just like turrets, O-chambers will block the shots of other O-towers.

    Finally, don't be shy about evolving back down the food chain either. Skulks move faster and can get to many places that Gorges can't. If you're finished building and wish you could get up to that vent, just de-evolve! Skulks also take out Marine resource structures much faster than a slime-spitting Gorge. ...and if you've just respawned in the Grand Canal, and go immediately to Onos, then you deserve a little frustration trying to get up those ladders. tounge.gif

    I hope this helps.

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  • LegionnaireLegionnaire Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9431Members Posts: 2
    A note when using skulks: if your hive is under attack and it has a water surface, I've discovered that the marines find it incredibly hard to see you. Try it out. Stay still, lie in wait (doesn't even have to be very deep) and wait until they tread all over you. They won't see a thing. And amusingly, they don't seem to see you even if you start biting.

    I've taken 3 HA/HMG marines out this way, and have never been killed while in the water.

    Probably a bug, come to think of it.

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  • FossaFossa Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6931Members Posts: 154
    Actually thats a lie. You can't take fall damage as a skulk and you can leap twice in midair without changing weapons. Again, try it in the refinery in bast. With level 3 adren Ive leaped and leaped 2x in midair to go incredibly fast straight into the wall. No damage. Only works with lerks (tho it would work with the others if they could GO that fast in any direction other than DOWN.)
  • Poor_YurikPoor_Yurik Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8164Members Posts: 33
    Skulk strategy for the vents tat go under a wall: Have one hanging off the ceiling with cloak, then send another under that'l get the marines attention, then run back through the vent, and then the hanging skulk drop onto their head and chomp it off. Works really well outside the Mess Hall.
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  • GibbyGibby Join Date: 2002-04-26 Member: 518Members Posts: 177
    QUOTE (Jeebus @ Nov 14 2002, 12:54 AM)
    -Leap for skulks does very little damage and is moslty useful for getting around the map

    It's actually stronger than Charge. Just can't continue it as long as the Onos. When you see a distant marine, Leap towards them, whip out the jaws midair, and bite bite bite when you land. Marines have a HARD time hitting a Leaping Skulk, especially one with Celerity x3.

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    Read the manual. Leap is 4xtouches, charge is 10xtouches. So you're wrong.
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  • 13NSPlayer13NSPlayer Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8878Members Posts: 37
    how much damage is a "touch" 1? 5?
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    Really should check .. but I'm guessing the internal clock in HL is 30 ticks per second. So charge does 300 dps, leap 120 dps (as long as you stay in contact).
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  • Silv3rfishSilv3rfish Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7604Members Posts: 10
    edited November 2002
    OK a few more....

    - gorg spit also trips door switches.

    - if your not sure about your teams abilities to keep hives, go skulk, find one of the hidden rooms that are only accesible by vent and build 3 of each of the upgrade towers you currently have. it ensures your abilities as long as they dont build a siege nearby, or get inquisitive with jetpacks. Also helps to put a couple of D towers there, then morph to skulk with carapace. You can do quick hit and runs on marines or turrets and rush back for a heal.

    - equal numbers of offensive and defensive towers work wonders, but yeh, just try and keep the defensive covered by offensive as a smart marine will kill the def. first.

    - going skulk and morphing to fade in a place where you can shoot down on a marine base really annoys them. Get regen and so long as they dont have grens you'll be happy smile.gif

    - the best order for towers is generally defence-movement-sensory. This will often let the aliens win with fades before you even get the third hive. Unless, that is, you want to try out some different tactics smile.gif D-M-S works well on pubs.

    - I'll usually drop a single offensive at any res tower I build at the start, but this is assuming that most of the skulks are generally useless. I'll put 2 off with a def at a hive then move on to a res point, and come back later for more.

    - if you have only 1 or 2 gorgs, its worth having 1 or 2 skulks protecting them. nothing is more annoying/damaging than just getting a res tower up then getting splatted by 3 marines and having the tower hacked down in seconds.

    - heal spray rocks. always use it in reasonably close skirmish, as it heals your friends and damages your enemies.

    - squads of 4 aliens, with 2 fades attacking, 1 lurk using umbra, and 1 gorg with regen doing healing/webs/(babblers) can do horendous damage to marine bases, and can keep going indefinitely. Just need to watch out for the grens.

    [edit] ps, I dont think any kind of horizontal movement will get you killed. i'd say it would be downward movement that will be killing you. seems strange though. don't think skulks can get falling damage, but lurks and fades sure can. it might seem like your not moving down much if your going at a fair clip as lurk, and in places like refinery you'll find the walls generally get wider near the top, so its easy to "fall" onto one of these walls. Try it against a wall that slopes inwards and see if you can still get splatted...
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