Running in Snow

BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Good Idea?</div>I come from a tropical country and never experienced snow before. So now I'm in the UK and its snowing, I'm wondering if running is a good idea? I'm worried that the ground would be too slippery to run on and I don't want to fall hard on my ass every 5 minutes.

If the ground is slippery, do certain kind of shoes increase traction?
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    I lost my father to running in snow. It's a very dangerous activity and only the most hardcore of adrenaline addicts even attempt such a feat. I'd look into some support groups long before you ever consider running in snow.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    I like winter. It puts a smile on my face to see otherwise stiff and frowning people skate around the streets uncontrollably, laughing quietly between themselves.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    snow is slippery. gaging what speed you can move in it is kind of trial and error. if you fall on your ass, you were moving too fast.

    This east coast US blizzard sucks, I'm starving and have no food in the house and no one is delivering and I'm snowed in -_-
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    It depends on the snow, and on the footwear. It's usually no problem to run in fresh snow, though there's always ice here and there, and that's slippery.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    You can't run in snow, at most you'll be going at a speed below jogging.
    Unless you mean like a centimeter or two of snow, in which case running is likely as not to put your on your rear fast. Basically, don't try to go fast in winter unless the ground is properly sanded.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    also lost family friend from slipping in the snow... walking out the pub
  • BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
    So basically, I have to find a treadmill. Which I don't think I can find. Thanks for the warnings. Now I have a chronic fear of running in snow.

    Any suggestions as to cardio exercises that can be done indoors?
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    Whipping out a cheap keyboard and raging in some games always get my blood pumping.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    edited December 2009
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    edit: for some reason it looks like embedding isn't working on this one? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V89sF_VfyOM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V89sF_VfyOM</a>
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited December 2009
    Coming from a long line of snowrunners I can tell you, this is not an art you can master in just a few tries. It takes long years of training and meditation and snow... Many people who tried without professional guidance have been either hospitalized or even passed on.


    There are many forms of snow as well. You have your fresh snow which is quite easy to run in at first, but once your tracking is gone due to snow buildup on your footwear can turn highly dangerous and should only be done in the presence of lots of people so they can have a laugh when you fall. If you fall down with noone around, you could die! Something to keep in mind, yaknow if dieing is not your thing...

    Then there is the treacherous frozen and stomped on snow, even the best snowrunners will eventually fall down if they exceed the safe speed restrictions! You have close to no traction on this type of snow. You can find this mostly on sidewalks and none-shoveled roads. First time runners should steer clear of this one!

    And last but not least you have the thick cushiony pack of snow that usually can be found in areas where people dare not go, because of polar bears!

    Think before you try then think some more and after that just go build a snowman instead! Remember, the carrot is supposed to be his nose!
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Or any other long pointy part of his anatomy you can think of.
  • PipiPipi Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69550Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1744463:date=Dec 20 2009, 05:10 PM:name=DiscoZombie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DiscoZombie @ Dec 20 2009, 05:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744463"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><center><object width="450" height="356"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V89sF_VfyOM"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V89sF_VfyOM" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" height="356"></embed></object></center>

    edit: for some reason it looks like embedding isn't working on this one? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V89sF_VfyOM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V89sF_VfyOM</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    HAHA !! Dude I laughed so hard looking at the video. Can't believe there's a game where your "units" slip on snow while running wow.. !

    And the guy making the videos says: " Stop falling down !! "
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    Today when I went out to the shop, I carefully walked down my garden path (which is sloped downwards) as it was covered in snow and I didn't want to go on my arse in front of anybody watching.

    At the end of the path, the snow ended. So I went back to walking normally. Right onto a patch of ice I didn't see. I then went on my arse.


    Snow is never slippy. It's the ice under it that is slippy. This sounds really obvious but it's very hard to slip on snow without actually trying to do so, unless it's snowed, thawed, frozen, and snowed on again, or the snow has been compacted down by cars or other people walking. Given the choice between walking on the trampled "main" path of a footpath and the still-covered-in-snow part of the path off to the side, I walk in the snow. It's never as slippery.
  • Konohas Perverted HermitKonohas Perverted Hermit Join Date: 2008-09-26 Member: 65075Members
    Be a man and do it or quit asking. Snow is great, winter is awesome.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1744441:date=Dec 20 2009, 02:25 PM:name=BadMouth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BadMouth @ Dec 20 2009, 02:25 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744441"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So basically, I have to find a treadmill. Which I don't think I can find. Thanks for the warnings. Now I have a chronic fear of running in snow.

    Any suggestions as to cardio exercises that can be done indoors?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You're being trolled. Slipping on ice can be dangerous but it's unlikely to hurt you once you're used to it. If you keep your speed fairly safe and you put your feet straight down rather than shuffling you're pretty safe on snow. If you feel your feet losing traction you're doing it wrong. It's entirely possible to run on ice rink ice, so snow is no more dangerous.
  • BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
    Do people actually die from running in snow?

    I've been walking outside a bit and it does seem slippery. Mostly cos the snow has been compacted by people walking on it, making it almost ice.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    My great-grandfather walked on snow every day of his life and he died when he got hit by a bus at 97.
  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited December 2009
    Stay the hell away from any sidewalks that have been "cleared" by that devil contraption with the stiff bristled buffing wheel that merely creates sheet ice.

    This thing:
    <img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZlRNyoG6l2I/SVmDQC8dHPI/AAAAAAAAAGU/uHZcQ4g8rAQ/s320/powerbroom.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1744528:date=Dec 21 2009, 06:07 PM:name=BadMouth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BadMouth @ Dec 21 2009, 06:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744528"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Do people actually die from running in snow?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nah. Old people sometimes break something, but the real danger comes from <i>driving</i> in snow, for obvious reasons...
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1744424:date=Dec 20 2009, 10:38 AM:name=Cereal_KillR)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cereal_KillR @ Dec 20 2009, 10:38 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744424"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It depends on the snow, and on the footwear. It's usually no problem to run in fresh snow, though there's always ice here and there, and that's slippery.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Badmouth, CK hit the nail right on the head. A soft newly-fallen snow with the proper footwear would be great for running in, and would be similar to running on soft sand - one of the BEST workouts for runners there are.

    If you opt for indoor training and have a bike, buy a decent trainer for it to ride indoors. Otherwise, save your money and buy an elliptical machine.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    I walked in snow yesterday, and today my client told me that he couldn't pay more than half of what I was doing for him was worth.

    Coincidence? I think not.
  • AldarisAldaris Join Date: 2002-03-25 Member: 351Members, Constellation
    I thought only prostitutes and lawyers had clients. Which one are you?
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    If I agree to his reply to my offer, I would be in the first category.



    It's a commercial.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    If you mean jogging, I'd generally advise against it, especially if it is or has been sunny and the snow has melted down, compacted and then re-solidified into a thin barely noticeable icy deathtrap.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1744554:date=Dec 21 2009, 11:44 PM:name=Aldaris)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Aldaris @ Dec 21 2009, 11:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744554"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I thought only prostitutes and lawyers had clients. Which one are you?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm sure webpage designers will love you for calling them prostitutes. Or lawyers.
  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1744596:date=Dec 22 2009, 06:16 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Dec 22 2009, 06:16 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744596"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm sure webpage designers will love you for calling them prostitutes. Or lawyers.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Web masters have "customers" not clients.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1744528:date=Dec 21 2009, 01:07 PM:name=BadMouth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BadMouth @ Dec 21 2009, 01:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744528"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Do people actually die from running in snow?

    I've been walking outside a bit and it does seem slippery. Mostly cos the snow has been compacted by people walking on it, making it almost ice.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    People have died from slipping on ice directly backwards, hitting the back of their head on the pavement which ultimately caused brain hemoragging. It's very dangerous to be hit directly on the back of the head, for example, there's a rule against it in mixed martial arts fighting.

    Most young fit people with decent reaction speed will take that kind of a fall on their shoulders and tense their neck so they don't whiplash back, older people have worse reaction time and more brittle bones and muscles so it can be much more dangerous for them.

    Ultimately, if your balance feels good and you don't feel nervous about slipping you probably are fine. The human body is completely and totally able to compensate for a slick surface under your feet, you just have to pay more attention to center of gravity and plant your feet firmly to increase friction. I have run on ice and snow many many many times in my life. I don't go out jogging when the weather is like that because I personally find the air that cold to burn my lungs, but I don't question my balance or safety.

    You know pretty quick weather ice is dangerous for you or not, some people lose their balance much easier than others on ice, you can feel how stable your movement is.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    Good point on the cold air burning your lungs - I experience that while cycling.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    edited December 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1744554:date=Dec 21 2009, 10:44 PM:name=Aldaris)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Aldaris @ Dec 21 2009, 10:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744554"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I thought only prostitutes and lawyers had clients. Which one are you?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    During counselling training we're told to call the other person the "client" in write ups and stuff.

    Any transcript of a counselling session in recent years will use "client" for the person's name (unless they use a pseudonym).

    Some places use "service user" or "end service user" or something. Never "customer" or "patient" any more though.



    *EDIT*

    I guess you could be cynical and call counsellors emotinal prostitutes. But that would be misleading. And wrong. I'm just saying it before someone else does.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Yeah, but wouldn't that make counselors misleading emotional prostitutes?
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