The SNIPER Update

remi

<!--quoteo(post=1707596:date=May 24 2009, 05:40 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ May 24 2009, 05:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1707596"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->achievements have lost all meaning in my book, same as the good ol' days with every class achievement beyond milestone 3 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />


I remember doing the scout running achievement while watching a movie (I just put +forward and +left in the console on my own listenserver and let TF2 run in the background) Goes to show ya how much I value achievements...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Really? I value them far more now that they aren't a means to an end. I actually find them to be a fun way to kill time.
(Except for those grind ones like the # of miles ran... those ones are just like "hmm, i really went that far / killed that many people?" [things that make you go hmmmm])

X_Stickman

The new achievements seem really screwy, especially the spy ones. For example, I was cloaked, got set on fire and killed near instantly by a pyro. Switch classes to demo, spawned, and got the "stay alive for 30 seconds after being set on fire while cloaked" achievement.

I also got the "you only shiv thrice" achievement for backstabbing an engineer and sapping his dispenser/sentry.

Tesseract

And I got that achievement after being set on fire for 5 seconds while being Jarate-d as a demoman.

lolfighter

I got "Enemy at the Gate" (kill an enemy within one second after the round starts) in the middle of the round.

To those that don't care at all about achievements now, I see that as a success actually. I mean, if you don't care about achievements but the unlocks are associated with them, that means you have to bother with something you don't care about, which isn't fun. Now you can concentrate on stuff that IS fun.

X_Stickman

Speaking of weird steam stuff...

If I open up the community overlay in game, and go to the browser, and then go to youtube and search for a video and try to play it, all I get is a message saying I don't have java installed or updated properly. If I then copy and paste the URL of that page into a steam chat window, and then click the link, the video plays fine.

Which is odd.

Tesseract

<!--quoteo(post=1707608:date=May 25 2009, 01:38 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ May 25 2009, 01:38 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1707608"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
I got "Enemy at the Gate" (kill an enemy within one second after the round starts) in the middle of the round.

To those that don't care at all about achievements now, I see that as a success actually. I mean, if you don't care about achievements but the unlocks are associated with them, that means you have to bother with something you don't care about, which isn't fun. Now you can concentrate on stuff that IS fun.
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Can't be ****ed to fix the ****ed up HTML in the quote, but I think Enemy at the Gate merely requires you don't die before killing someone (due to bugged coding) at the beginning of a round.

remi

I really think they just didn't run this update through playtesters / QA people. There are so many bugs with the achievements and everything. I don't know how they would let this many slip through otherwise.

I also got Burn Notice... while playing Engineer.

p.s. I love that they named an achievement after one of my favorite new TV series. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />

Monkfish

<!--quoteo(post=1707614:date=May 25 2009, 01:56 AM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Psyke @ May 25 2009, 01:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1707614"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I really think they just didn't run this update through playtesters / QA people. There are so many bugs with the achievements and everything. I don't know how they would let this many slip through otherwise.

I also got Burn Notice... while playing Engineer.

p.s. I love that they named an achievement after one of my favorite new TV series. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

We're the beta testers obviously!

Geminosity

In most other companies it would be the case they probably DID run it past QA and QA caught most of these but they never got fixed before the deadline. Considering it's Valve though... ~shrug~

Thaldarin

<!--quoteo(post=1707623:date=May 25 2009, 07:01 AM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geminosity @ May 25 2009, 07:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1707623"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In most other companies it would be the case they probably DID run it past QA and QA caught most of these but they never got fixed before the deadline. Considering it's Valve though... ~shrug~<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<a href="http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Testers" target="_blank">http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Testers</a>

Align

I heard a theory that they wanted it out in time for memorial day, whatever that is.
Also every time I get killed by a sniper, they taunt, but not one of them ever got either of the tauntcam achievements.

lolfighter

I got those on the first try, however.

Also, not a bug, but too funny not to mention: I got "Triple Prey" (in a single round, kill the same enemy with 3 different weapons) when I had the Razorback equipped - by killing a demoman with the rifle, the kukri, and his own grenades.

X_Stickman

<!--quoteo(post=1707640:date=May 25 2009, 02:43 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Align @ May 25 2009, 02:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1707640"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I heard a theory that they wanted it out in time for memorial day, whatever that is.
Also every time I get killed by a sniper, they taunt, but not one of them ever got either of the tauntcam achievements.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


They probably already have it and are just taunting for fun. Snipers taunt far more than any other class since they're usually in the safest position to do so.

Monkfish

<!--quoteo(post=1707649:date=May 25 2009, 03:01 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (X_Stickman @ May 25 2009, 03:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1707649"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They probably already have it and are just taunting for fun. Snipers taunt far more than any other class since they're usually in the safest position to do so.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Not with cloak and dagger spies haunting their ass! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

X_Stickman

What you choose to do with men's asses is your own business, sir. I was simply attempting to explain something for another gentleman, and you come in here with your filth and start loudly proclaiming your disgusting habits.

How vulgar.

Monkfish

<!--quoteo(post=1707655:date=May 25 2009, 03:26 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (X_Stickman @ May 25 2009, 03:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1707655"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What you choose to do with men's asses is your own business, sir. I was simply attempting to explain something for another gentleman, and you come in here with your filth and start loudly proclaiming your disgusting habits.

How vulgar.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I just can't help myself..they wiggle them about so provocatively..

ZiGGY

coming soon to a ######night in sheffield... it's sonic... the spy who loved me...n :O

Align

<!--quoteo(post=1707649:date=May 25 2009, 05:01 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (X_Stickman @ May 25 2009, 05:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1707649"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They probably already have it and are just taunting for fun. Snipers taunt far more than any other class since they're usually in the safest position to do so.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ask them.

Kouji_San

Obvious joke, but had to be done of course

<a href="http://nerfnow.com/comic/134" target="_blank">http://nerfnow.com/comic/134</a>

Align

>But now you don't see a huge influx of spies and snipers
yes you do
All the snipers are using Huntsman because the Huntsman is awesome, there's constantly 3-5 snipers whenever I play, and spies are only marginally better.

lolfighter

Please take note of the ridiculous/giant shoulderpads. Sneakier reference.

juice

I have 8 hours played since the update and 16 sniper achievements but I haven't gotten a single new weapon. This blows.

TychoCelchuuu

I got the Huntsman last time I played, which is nice because it's the only thing I even cared about a little bit. Time to play Sniper for the first time ever, basically. Once, of course, everyone ELSE stops playing Sniper. Which might be a long time.

steppin'razor

<a href="http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs43/f/2009/143/a/4/Spy_vs_Sniper_Aftermath_by_ShwigityShwonShwei.png" target="_blank">http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs43/f/2009/143...yShwonShwei.png</a>

I think this image sums it all up.

lolfighter

I want you all to picture me physically restraining myself (think "alien hand syndrome") from ranting and raving against duplicate items.

Thaldarin

<!--quoteo(post=1707731:date=May 26 2009, 02:12 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ May 26 2009, 02:12 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1707731"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I want you all to picture me physically restraining myself (think "alien hand syndrome") from ranting and raving against duplicate items.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I have 6 backburners, another friend of mine has <b>twelve</b> and another has eight. It's mad :/

Got Dead Ringer and Huntsman finally ^_^ All I need now is C&D plus all the hats... I just want that fricken afro, I'll play demo so much more just for that.

My main problem with the hats is now that I play Medic... it kind of looks like he has a ###### on his head for the new one :/

lolfighter

Imagine all the nifty ###### you'd have if you didn't get duplicates.

Align

Like the Scattergun of +3 running?

lolfighter

What? No, like the stuff that ACTUALLY EXISTS IN THE GAME.

X_Stickman

<!--quoteo(post=1707731:date=May 26 2009, 03:12 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ May 26 2009, 03:12 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1707731"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I want you all to picture me physically restraining myself (think "alien hand syndrome") from ranting and raving against duplicate items.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Great, now all I can picture is you standing up and yelling "Mein Führer, I can walk!"