Pet hate: Giving time frames in terms of seasons

Scythe

<div class="IPBDescription">Stop doing it</div>Attention America! As you may or may not know, the world is round, and it also has an axial precession of almost exactly a year in cycle length. This means that while some parts of the world might be experiencing certain seasons, the majority of the rest of the world will not be sharing that season!

Thus, giving time frames in terms of seasons demonstrates <b>amazing</b> levels of bigotry and disregard for the rest of the world.

Please keep that in mind.

--Scythe--

Comprox

[17:03] <@Scythe-> bottom blur looks like "Prepare to evolve, something something"
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[17:04] <@Comprox> Prepare for Launch Fall 2009 seems to be the bottom
[17:04] <@Scythe-> ###### americans
[17:04] <@Scythe-> FALL
[17:04] <@Scythe-> MEANS
[17:04] <@Scythe-> NOTHING
[17:04] <@Scythe-> OUTSIDE YOUR ###### COUNTRY
[17:04] <@Scythe-> I'm going to make an angry post, brb.

Aisson Mccomplished.

moultano

<!--quoteo(post=1704135:date=Apr 3 2009, 04:43 PM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Apr 3 2009, 04:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704135"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Attention America! As you may or may not know, the world is round, and it also has an axial precession of almost exactly a year in cycle length. This means that while some parts of the world might be experiencing certain seasons, the majority of the rest of the world will not be sharing that season!

Thus, giving time frames in terms of seasons demonstrates <b>amazing</b> levels of bigotry and disregard for the rest of the world.

Please keep that in mind.

--Scythe--<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't get it. I thought seasons were almost entirely dependent on latitude. Most of the world's population is in the northern hemisphere, so it's not <i>that</i> thoughtless.

KungFuDiscoMonkey

<!--quoteo(post=1704135:date=Apr 3 2009, 02:43 PM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Apr 3 2009, 02:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704135"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->the majority of the rest of the world will not be sharing that season!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Last time I checked a majority of the world lived above the equator.
<a href="http://www.ehow.com/how_2243885_understand-earths-population-distribution.html" target="_blank">http://www.ehow.com/how_2243885_understand...stribution.html</a>

Scythe

I was talking about land area! I'm sure if you factored in kangaroos, sheep and cows, the southern hemisphere would look a lot more populous.

Regardless, ignoring six hundred and sixty million people is still pretty crass.

--Scythe--

Talesin

I've always wondered if aussies thought of December as a 'summer' month.

Haze

Butthurt. :3

Tyrain

While I agree that Americans should be more sensible for the rest of the world, I also have to say: Do you hang upside down from the ceiling and if so, are you a bat?

TychoCelchuuu

<!--quoteo(post=1704139:date=Apr 3 2009, 05:16 PM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Apr 3 2009, 05:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704139"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I was talking about land area! I'm sure if you factored in kangaroos, sheep and cows, the southern hemisphere would look a lot more populous.

Regardless, ignoring six hundred and sixty million people is still pretty crass.

--Scythe--<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's not "ignoring," it's "not caring enough to find a new way to refer to times." There is a difference there.

lolfighter

"The season overlapping Q3 and Q4 2009" doesn't have the same ring as autumn. And yes, it's the entire northern hemisphere this applies to, and I resent being lumped in with the united statesians. I want credit for pissing you off too!

Insane

<!--quoteo(post=1704143:date=Apr 4 2009, 12:13 AM:name=Talesin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Talesin @ Apr 4 2009, 12:13 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704143"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've always wondered if aussies thought of December as a 'summer' month.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Well, that's when summer usually happens, so I'm going to go with... yes.

pSyk0mAn

When we are already at it.

Get rid of the forum backups resulting in daily downtimes, because everyone outside america can't browse the forums during a certain daytime.

Oh wait, my non-us ego just exploded..nvm..

locallyunscene

And I want a pony!

ZiGGY

I think the population of Scythe is very unhappy by this blatant personal attack on his geographical location.

X_Stickman

I live in the UK and I don't even know what fall means.

Why don't people just use a month, or a range of months. Or "towards the end of x year" or "the middle of x year".

Or an exact time and date.

Zaggy

Stardate 62678.6, we remember the uproar of the people of the formerly known Australian continent.
The moment we stopped using Gregorian calendar dates and embraced stardate!


Brb enjoying the spring here in the Netherlands.



<a href="http://xkcd.com/526/" target="_blank">XKCD - tip of KFDM/</a>

Crispy

<!--quoteo(post=1704195:date=Apr 4 2009, 06:31 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Apr 4 2009, 06:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704195"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I live in the UK and I don't even know what fall means.

Why don't people just use a month, or a range of months. Or "towards the end of x year" or "the middle of x year".

Or an exact time and date.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Because giving exact release dates is shooting yourself in the foot. The broader the time period, the more likely you will keep your word.

Shockeh

<!--quoteo(post=1704149:date=Apr 4 2009, 12:37 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Apr 4 2009, 12:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704149"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's not "ignoring," it's "not caring enough to find a new way to refer to times." There is a difference there.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I suppose, that month only just did get changed to 'August' didn't it. Oh wait, that happened over ONE THOUSAND YEARS AGO.

Kouji_San

You know, things like this were much easier back when Earth was flat...

locallyunscene

The obvious solution would be to not release NS2 in Australia until it's Fall there. They're used to getting everything late anyway.

lolfighter

So, in other words, right now?

Shockeh

Or alternately, 'never', due to nobody else having 'Fall'. We have Autumn.

kyliegirl

i can download the first season of any series before it is even aired in Australia... same goes for movies too... I can watch it on youtube before it even hits the cinema here..

It really annoys me that having all these sophisticated ways of transferring information, and it still takes australia 4 bloody months to release a new movie and the other half of the world has already seen it... We are always 2 seasons behind in any tv series..

And they wonder why pirating is so popular.....

locallyunscene

<!--quoteo(post=1704282:date=Apr 6 2009, 04:52 AM:name=kyliegirl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kyliegirl @ Apr 6 2009, 04:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704282"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It really annoys me that having all these sophisticated ways of transferring information, and it still takes australia 4 bloody months to release a new movie and the other half of the world has already seen it... We are always 2 seasons behind in any tv series..

And they wonder why pirating is so popular.....<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well they have to spend a lot of time and money to get the translations right. If they didn't spend that effort to add koala bears and kangaroos to the background of every scene, no one in Austrailia would be able to relate to the characters and it would flop.

Spooge

Attention Non-Americans! Over 306 million people live here. Stop pretending we are all the same person.

TychoCelchuuu

<!--quoteo(post=1704286:date=Apr 6 2009, 07:57 AM:name=Spooge)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Spooge @ Apr 6 2009, 07:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704286"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Attention Non-Americans! Over 306 million people live here. Stop pretending we are all the same person.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not sure you've quite grasped the idea that this has nothing to do with America. It's a hemisphere thing.

Spooge

<!--quoteo(post=1704287:date=Apr 6 2009, 08:21 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Apr 6 2009, 08:21 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704287"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm not sure you've quite grasped the idea that this has nothing to do with America. It's a hemisphere thing.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I'm not sure you've read the first post in this thread.

puzl

It's called Northern Hemisphere Bias and, yes, it should not be considered 'smart' to use it in the modern world of internet communications etc.

It's shocking how many people think the earth is closer to the sun during the Northern summer.

Btw, this is why the world of business and science adopted the 'Q1..Q4' syntax many years ago.


But then again, given that the US is in fine company with Burma and Liberia as the only countries to not even partially accept the metric system, can we really expect change?
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Metric_system_adoption_map.svg" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Metric_s...doption_map.svg</a>


My pet peeve is when people on music lists/forums talk about the 'domestic release' vs intl. release.
domestic means in your own country. If you throw the word around without stating you're from the US it is meaningless except to other morons^H^H^H^H^H^Hpeople who cannot frame thoughts to an international audience.

puzl

<!--quoteo(post=1704279:date=Apr 6 2009, 06:37 AM:name=Shockwave)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shockwave @ Apr 6 2009, 06:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704279"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Or alternately, 'never', due to nobody else having 'Fall'. We have Autumn.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The term fall is a British English word that fell out of use on our side of the pond, yet you have a problem because your ancestors who chose to cross the pond didn't pay attention to your fashions. Irony, anyone?


<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autumn" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autumn</a>
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The alternative word fall is now mostly a North American English word for the season. It traces its origins to old Germanic languages. The exact derivation is unclear, the Old English fiæll or feallan and the Old Norse fall all being possible candidates. However, these words all have the meaning "to fall from a height" and are clearly derived either from a common root or from each other. The term came to denote the season in the 16th century, a contraction of Middle English expressions like "fall of the leaf" and "fall of the year".[3]

During the 17th century, English immigration to the colonies in North America was at its peak, and the new settlers took their language with them. While the term fall gradually became obsolescent in Britain, it became the more common term in North America, where autumn is nonetheless preferred in scientific and often in literary contexts.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

remi

<!--quoteo(post=1704291:date=Apr 6 2009, 09:41 AM:name=puzl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(puzl @ Apr 6 2009, 09:41 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704291"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The term fall is a British English word that fell out of use on our side of the pond, yet you have a problem because your ancestors who chose to cross the pond didn't pay attention to your fashions. Irony, anyone?
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autumn" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autumn</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In this case, citing a release date of Fall 2009 is actually very specific! (As "Fall" only exists in North America, apparently.)

locallyunscene

<!--quoteo(post=1704293:date=Apr 6 2009, 09:44 AM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ Apr 6 2009, 09:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704293"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In this case, citing a release date of Fall 2009 is actually very specific! (As "Fall" only exists in North America, apparently.)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now if only I could harness the power of pedantry, this forum could power New York state.