Can Some1 Explain How Leap Works?

DrathDrath Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8310Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
in the manual, leap damage is listed as number of touches x 4

now this has puzzled me, and in my efforts to use leap, i have only ever managed to kill a single marine. although it is quite useful in negotiating a level quickly, i cant help but think im doing something wrong with it. So if ppl who have sucessfully used leap could give some pointers, it would be much appreciated

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  • DukatDukat Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7748Members
    If I'm right each touch means each claw that touches the marine. Beyond that I don't know much about leap besides the fact it's good for covering distances quickly.
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
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    My understanding of it is that you'll get your 16dmg x 4 only if you hit your target in the center. Leap is hard to control since you'll jump forward very quick, so you'll usually get one or two hits at best if you're off-center.

    A good idea is to use it to leap towards him and then quickly switch to Bite while airborne. I've torn apart numerous marines with that tactic. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    An ideal Leap/Bite attack to a marine who doesn't know you're there will <i>theoretically</i> do about 80 damage:

    Leap = 16dmg x 2 (on average) = 32dmg
    Bite = 50dmg

    You'll sometimes get another bite in before they get a shot at you if you're lucky. They're pretty much dead by then. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    IIRC, 'touches' means that each packet sent from your computer to the server will say (in addition to everything else you are doing) "I did X damage to Y". Where X is 4 for a leaping skulk or 10 for a charging Onos. Y is any object that you are intersecting when the packet goes out.

    Now, if this is the case, people with lower pings will do more damage per second with leap and charge than people with higher pings.

    Could a dev shed some light here?

    BTW sycophant, skulk bite is 75 damage.
  • TheGunslingerTheGunslinger Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8126Members
    To attack a structure effectivly with Charge, you duck and hold forward on it. It is continuously damaged as long as you hold forward.

    The leap confuses me as, from what I can tell, there is only one "touch": the basic impact. Perhaps it is possible to hold foward or attack and grapple with your target?

    I wouldn't know, I hate the damned things. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I can't figure out how to bite accuratly.
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
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    Oh right.... I haven't played in a few days, so I accidentally mixed up the numbers. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TAUTheOMeGaTAUTheOMeGa Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7919Members
    gun, "touches" is not actually the "touching" of alien/marine

    its the server's interpretation of what happened, i.e. whether u hit him or not with leap

    -TAU|TheOMeGa
  • TheGunslingerTheGunslinger Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8126Members
    edited November 2002
    So, one touch per leap? That's only 4 damage. And if it is a static amount, how come they would list the damage as "# of 'touches' on target x 4"?

    <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/manual/alien_skulk.html' target='_blank'>http://www.natural-selection.org/manual/al...lien_skulk.html</a>

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