Maintenance advice for XP

SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">sick of formatting</div>While this isn't an emergency I still feel that I ain't doing as much for my computer as I could to keep it fresh. Over time I feel certain things go slower and slower, at first quite unnoticeable but then it happens more frequently and for longer periods, I can't help but wish for a format to sort it all out. However, formats are cumbersome, loosing registry for all installed programs and chances of screwing something up or forgetting to backup is something best to be avoided.

Currently I do the following:

Defrag all drives, weekly (Ultimate defrag)
Use various registry cleaners, monthly (tune up utilities, registry booster)
Virus/malware/spyware scans with nod32, threatfire, spybot s&d, ad-aware, weekly.
Daily Clean.bat, deleting everything in temporary folders and junk files stored on same place, got it somewhere around here, daily

My most recent problem is firefox 3 freezing when loading pages with lots of images to scroll through (imageboards mostly) but works fine after restarting it (no tabs saved). This might be a problem with my vast use of extensions and some naive tweaking however.

I also get stuck at startup for 3-5 minutes with nothing but a blank screen and the blinking thingy on the top left but it always starts normally afterwards.

Any advice how to keep things purring before sticking it in a bag and throwing it off a bridge?

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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited September 2008
    Weird, I don't do any of the things you do with windows (other then defrag and manually temp/cache folder cleaning) and it never crashes or gets slow. I'm running this Windows XP installation for ~2+ years now. No slowdowns/instability issues...

    The only things I run for defense are a viruscanner and a firewall. And once every 1-4 months I defrag...


    Perhaps those cleaners are doing more harm then good? I certainly never trusted those things <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />



    ps.
    Perhaps you might want to look into Ghosting an image of a fresh install for Wxp? This image can have all your basic drivers and programs and interface layout/settings. This way you don't have to do all the basic stuff to get Windows up and running again to your likings. From this base you can then add all you other stuff you want to add.

    A ghost installs itself and you're ready to go when it's done...
  • Umbraed_MonkeyUmbraed_Monkey Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9922Members
    MonsE used to have a fantastic guide for setting up WinXP in one of the NS community sites.


    And Firefox has become quite the hog lately. Especially when you load it up with extensions. Just dial that stuff back a few notches and you should have a lot of performance back.
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Honestly, I have to agree that doing all that is likely doing more harm than good. There really is no need to run a virus scan unless your machine is not working or running those registry cleaners. More than likely it deleted something it shouldn't have which is causing some minor havoc.

    I run avast but have not run a full virus scan since I bought this current PC setup about 6 months ago. I have defragged it once and I created a separate partition for all my temp files of 5 gigs which I clean out every few months as well.
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    I knew of ghosting but I never think about it just after formatting. Tweaking and making sure everything is like before takes several days, I still find things I was missing from last format, it goes on a need-to-use-now basis. Hard to determine basics beyond audio, video and input devices. Are there any free (good) software that handles ghosting well? I've only seen norton and some others.

    I can't live without my extensions! stumble upon, foxmarks, mouse gestures, nuke anything, pdf handler, foxytunes, noscript, downthemall are like the bell, reflexes and snazzy custom paint on a bike. It functions as intended but the motivation to use it is gone. At least there is gewgle crome to fall back on. Also, NS community sites? Like the armslab.com?
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    But.... Google Chrome eats memory for breakfast! ZOMG the overhead! Granted, it's great for people who leave their browsers open for too long due to Facebook, but it eats as much memory as running Windows XP!

    Anyways, I use simple stuff to keep my system running, and it's been running pretty good. I use AVG Free for anti-virus and Spybot for spyware. I also make sure to shutdown and kill everything every so often to clean up leaks. I actually rarely defrag. Defrag is only usually useful if you have less than around 15% free space. I keep mine around 20% or more, so I rarely see much fragging. Maybe defrag once every couple of months.

    Also, last time I used a registry fixer/cleaner, it borked my SupComm install. Wasn't too happy. Especially since the install CD was very far away in storage.
  • TykjenTykjen Join Date: 2003-01-21 Member: 12552Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    The last time I got my XP running smoothly on a 2 years old install, was cleaning it up inside the cabinet.
    Getting the temperatures down by 10-20 degrees C did miracles in terms of reactiontime in desktop, boot time, fps etc.
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1688139:date=Sep 15 2008, 12:19 AM:name=Tykjen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tykjen @ Sep 15 2008, 12:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1688139"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Getting the temperatures down by 10-20 degrees C did miracles in terms of reactiontime in desktop, boot time, fps etc.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Not all of us have liquid nitrogen handy.....

    Mine hovers around 30C
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    I've found the greatest way ever to keep bad ###### from happening to my XP install: <a href="http://www.sandboxie.com/" target="_blank">Sandboxie</a>. Every program (aside from a few that I trust*) I install in its own sandbox and always run it from there. It keeps them from mussing up the registry or system files, installing startup crap or services. The best part is that since everything is contained in one folder you simply backup that folder and you'll never need to install that app again. Honestly, I don't know why this isn't a default part of every OS that exists.

    Not every program sandboxes nicely. Sometimes you have to play with the sandbox settings to get a game to work right. But usually I figure that if a program isn't behaving properly in the sandbox then I shouldn't run it anyway. The exception to that for you would probably be Steam. Steam doesn't seem to work in a sandbox no matter what I do. Personally I was able to lose it without to much trouble since I'd already played through portal many times and TF2 was ruined by grind.

    An alternative that has higher computability but is somewhat less safe is Altiris SVS. Its free for non-commercial use but has its own limitations.

    *Firefox, VLC, uTorrent, Foxit Reader, and 7zip
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    Or, you can create another account and give it limited access. Now, no program can screw with admin powers, i.e. no registry edits. Only use admin account for installations.
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    Users have registries too, and they can just as easily get screwed up and cause problems for that account. If you're installing in an admin account then the program is still messing with the system registry.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    edited September 2008
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that it's actually bad for your PC if you defrag that often. I thought the golden rule was only to defrag if your HD was at least 10% fragmented.

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is it harmful to defragment the HD often?

    A hard drive is, of course, a mechanical device. The platters rotate on their spindle, the read/write heads are located on a movable arm which jumps about all over the place as well. The more use your hard drive is subjected to, the shorter its working life is going to be. That stands to reason.

    There’s much debate been carried out about whether or not defragmenting your drive too often stresses it too much but the short answer, I believe, is that it’s much of a muchness. Running the hard drive when it’s fragmented stresses it, and defragmenting it obsessively stresses it also. If you defragment more often, the process usually won’t take as long each time either, because the drive won’t be as heavily fragmented.

    Simply choose the pattern of maintenance which suits you best and be happy with it. If your regular schedule enables you to defrag less often and leave the system running to do the job, then fine. If it needs to be in use more frequently and you need to do the defragmenting in shorter ‘bursts’ more frequently, then that’s fine also.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Once a week seems too often, but if you're downloading and deleting lots of files during that time and your PC is getting to 10% every week then it's worth it. If it's under 10% then it's probably not your HD causing the performance hit.
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    Sandboxie looks neat-o, I'll give it a spin. Also set my defrags to once a month, it makes sense it could die earlier from overworking itself every so often.
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