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<div class="IPBDescription">From the makers of dogs!</div>Over at <a href="http://www.bestfriendsagain.com/" target="_blank">Best Friends Again</a>, they're auctioning off 5 slots to get your dog cloned. The lowest starting bid will be 100k, the highest will be 180k. They claim they have the world wide exclusive legal right to clone dogs.
Would you have your dead/dying dog cloned?
Would you have your dead/dying dog cloned?
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Might I add that this shows no respect for your pet... It's viewing pets as a disposable thing: "Oh it died? Have it cloned!"
Interesting. I wonder how they can stake that claim. It's not like they invented the dog. They may have invented some of the techniques they're using, but if I invent my own, on what grounds could they refuse me the right to clone dogs as I see fit?
Seems like there's a corporation called Start Licensing that is responsible for this. Information about them is curiously hard to come by. Furthermore, the entire affair sounds anticompetitive, provided Bioarts International's claims hold water. Patenting cloning techniques is one thing, but how does patenting the act of cloning a dog make sense? Doesn't that go directly against the ideas of the free market? If my company can do it using techniques WE invented and cheaper, why shouldn't we be allowed to? The idea of free competition is to ensure that one company doesn't exploit a monopoly to inflate prices beyond what's reasonable. This whole affair seems to award an enforced monopoly to Bioarts International.
<a href="http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/97774.php" target="_blank">http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/97774.php</a>
so it seems it's based around control of a patent for the process in question, in Korea. Really wouldn't call that a worldwide exclusive legal right...
Seems like there's a corporation called Start Licensing that is responsible for this. Information about them is curiously hard to come by. Furthermore, the entire affair sounds anticompetitive, provided Bioarts International's claims hold water. Patenting cloning techniques is one thing, but how does patenting the act of cloning a dog make sense? Doesn't that go directly against the ideas of the free market? If my company can do it using techniques WE invented and cheaper, why shouldn't we be allowed to? The idea of free competition is to ensure that one company doesn't exploit a monopoly to inflate prices beyond what's reasonable. This whole affair seems to award an enforced monopoly to Bioarts International.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The whole point in patents is monopoly - they give monopoly for public disclosure of the invention for 20 years (which can be increased with Supplementary Protection Certificates). Free market is one thing, but protecting someone who have spent half of his/hers life inventing sth which is than copied by a wealthier company and introduced to the market faster / cheaper than the original inventor is what patents are all about.
Nobody would give them a patent for dog cloning, but they might have invented sth that is needed along the way of cloning procedure which is a must for dogs. So it would be true to say that they only have the right to clone dogs (if they have a patent) - as long as someone won't gonna come up with a different technology.
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patents are international, the law might not be unified in the whole world, but it is highly probable that this company have refilled applications for Europe/US.
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If it's raised in the same way, it's gonna act pretty much the same. Not identical, but close enough to not question it.
But the chances of someone raising their pet the same way they did the first time is highly unlikely.
The minute I hear any credible evidence indicating the existence of real life zombies, I am heading north, arming myself, and hiding in a cave.
We neuter our pets so that they don't go breeding like crazy.
If you clone your pet you know that you are not just replacing your former pet. It is a new dog. It's almost as if the pet wasn't neutered and had a pup that was identical to its father/mother.
By neutering the pet you remove the possibility of offspring. You remove the possibility that it's lineage will live on.
It makes sense in my head, but I'm kinda tired. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
I don't have enough spare time and/or money to construct the compound it recommends for long term zombie survival, nor do I have access to pretty much any weapon. I can only hope that I can escape the zombies and marauding bands of evil-doers who seek to take advantage of the downfall of society long enough to reach the cold north, where zombies will freeze solid.
On the plus side, after that trek, I would lose a lot of weight, and the zombie fighting would give me some impressive muscles. After the zombie apocalypse, women would be all over me.
Every cloud has a silver lining.
That's a good point. I think the parts that would be the same would just be in temperament and intelligence.
I think I'd prefer if they could make it so that it wasn't actually a clone but just an artificial child of my old dog.
If I loved my dog and every aspect of her personality, I'd rather have a puppy from that same family line than to have a clone or to try my luck with another dog. Since that's not possible, I might try for one of the same breed but that is almost as random as just choosing a puppy out of a box.
That's true, I have been without a dog for about 6 years now... I want a puppy! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
I was actually just saying "choosing a puppy out of a box" as a twist on whatever saying it is about choosing some random thing from a barrel or a basket or something. Me not being able to remember the saying also contributed to this.
I want a puppy... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
Anyway you slice it... Puppies >>>>>>>> clones, unless they are mutated zombie warior clones of course <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
What!?
The cloning thing just lost its false charm.
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You just have to re-clone it more often! How much can you teach a puppy before you want another one anyway?
But who can say if a clone would've been different?
Assume a clone can actually create a 100% genetically identical copy. (Which is not the case, but that's why I said assume.)
And just in case you didn't know: Although genes do not change over the course of time their activity does, depending on influences of your environment.
Now, when you clone a dog you most likely have a gene sample of the old dog, cause you didnt know that he would be the best dog ever when he was a puppy.
Does cloning also clone the gene/codon activity or only the gene sequence?
If it only clones the sequence, you have no guarantee that he will turn out to be the #1 pet he was, cause the activity is developed through interaction with the environment, which you cannot recreate to a 100% accuracy..
But if it also clones the activity you will have a puppy, with the traits of the dog, when the sample was taken.
This also means, that the clone will be different from the original, cause he starts out differently than the original.
In either case: You will not get back, what made you dog so awesome.
If you forgot to stuff your dog the first time, then I suppose cloning might be a good option...