NS 2 will support a WALL-chambers ?

HatlabuFarkas

<div class="IPBDescription">(in a NS3.2 we have a Plugin to support that)</div>In the daily game , we have some CO_FACEOFF map play time, and we found a server.

this server sh0ws up the WALL-Chambers. The gorges have a "buildmenu" , and if the gorge see the wall, before hit the "buildmenu", the Chamber planted to a WALL, or ceiling.

<img src="http://kepfeltoltes.hu/080504/co_faceoff_WALL_CHAMBER_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />


The NS:Source is support that, or not ? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

Harimau

Dude it's NS2 not NS:Source :/
Using the term *:Source implies either A) a mod, or B) ownership by VALVe.

As for the idea itself, I think it's been mentioned before, but yeah, excellent idea, I think.

HatlabuFarkas

it is really difficult to say YES on this thing ? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />

and the NS2 is on the Source engine.

This is the reason why i typed NS:Source

(edited: some words are goes wrong, because fast-type)

Harimau

lolwut?

dude i don't type entire words when i mistype, man. that's crazy.

Lt_Hendrickson

I for one would vote for wall chambers. Makes the infestation cooler looking. I vote overall for smaller cheaper weaker chambers than can be spammed for infestation and adding them to walls would be cool, but with a different model to look like gravity is affecting it.

Harimau

<!--quoteo(post=1677811:date=May 6 2008, 12:48 PM:name=Lt_Hendrickson)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lt_Hendrickson @ May 6 2008, 12:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677811"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->but with a different model to look like gravity is affecting it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ah. awesome idea.

schkorpio

vote yes <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

the_x5

There were plans to put this in NS v3.2, but I don't know what happened that led to it not getting it. (likely a number of factors like time contraints, needing to make it look polished, the version of the plugin at the time was buggy)


I bet Depot would know more about the story...



It would be great for chamber to be fully 3D in their placement. I retain my previous vote one this.

(since I can't find original thread in the NS I&S forum, my previous vote was "<b>vote <!--coloro:#00CC00--><span style="color:#00CC00"><!--/coloro-->yes<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></b>")

HatlabuFarkas

<!--quoteo(post=1677811:date=May 6 2008, 05:48 AM:name=Lt_Hendrickson)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lt_Hendrickson @ May 6 2008, 05:48 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677811"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I for one would <!--coloro:#00FF00--><span style="color:#00FF00"><!--/coloro-->vote for<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> wall chambers.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Omg, another <!--coloro:#00FF00--><span style="color:#00FF00"><!--/coloro-->YES<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> voted <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />


<!--quoteo(post=1677811:date=May 6 2008, 05:48 AM:name=Lt_Hendrickson)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lt_Hendrickson @ May 6 2008, 05:48 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677811"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Makes the infestation cooler looking. I vote overall for <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->smaller cheaper weaker<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> chambers than can be spammed for infestation and adding them to walls would be cool, but with a different model to look like gravity is affecting it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

What are you mean ?

if i planted a OFFensive chamber to a wall, the RES cost is not 10 ?

maybe the cost is 5, and the off is weaker, smaller, and the firepower is under 10 (per spike) ??

i think the original chambers is a <!--coloro:#00FF00--><span style="color:#00FF00"><!--/coloro-->go0d<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> idea, the smaller, weaker, is a <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->BAD<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

Harimau

no, he means make the costs of all chambers lower, but make them smaller so in effect you can just have a lot more of them (he suggested, to spread infestation). if you place it on a wall, ceiling or floor, the cost wouldn't change depending on location.

the_x5

<!--quoteo(post=1677980:date=May 7 2008, 02:13 PM:name=HatlabuFarkas)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(HatlabuFarkas @ May 7 2008, 02:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677980"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Omg, another <!--coloro:#00FF00--><span style="color:#00FF00"><!--/coloro-->YES<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> voted <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
What are you mean ?

if i planted a OFFensive chamber to a wall, the RES cost is not 10 ?

maybe the cost is 5, and the off is weaker, smaller, and the firepower is under 10 (per spike) ??

i think the original chambers is a <!--coloro:#00FF00--><span style="color:#00FF00"><!--/coloro-->go0d<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> idea, the smaller, weaker, is a <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->BAD<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't mean to offend HatlabuFarkas, but am I the only one who is finding it really hard to understand what this guy is saying? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />

darktimes

i can understand him..

i dont know what for problem you have.

"if i plant a offensive chamber to a wall, the res cost is not 10?"
what is here the problem?

"maybe <i>when you plant it to a wall</i> the cost is 5, and the chamber is weaker, smalller, and the firepower is under 10?"

its normal english.

Harimau

<!--quoteo(post=1678250:date=May 10 2008, 02:06 PM:name=darktimes)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(darktimes @ May 10 2008, 02:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1678250"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i can understand him..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Haha, sorry, but that's ######ing hilarious.

I already explained Hendrickson's idea; which is somewhat off-topic and a separate idea, but does in part tie into this idea, and arose because of this idea.

the_x5

<!--quoteo(post=1678250:date=May 10 2008, 02:06 AM:name=darktimes)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(darktimes @ May 10 2008, 02:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1678250"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i can understand him..

i dont know what for problem you have.

"if i plant a offensive chamber to a wall, the res cost is not 10?"
what is here the problem?

"maybe <i>when you plant it to a wall</i> the cost is 5, and the chamber is weaker, smalller, and the firepower is under 10?"

its normal english.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, really, it's not. Sorry. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

Yes I can get the main point of what you both are saying, but sometimes the grammar is a bit befuddling to know if I'm getting the whole point. I'm not the only one. It wouldn't matter as much in a casual game, or when just hanging out having some fun, but when you are trying to get a critical point across about a new great idea or a vital criticism of an idea it's important to be understood but your audience. I'm sorry if I'm coming off sounding like I'm preaching; I'm actually trying to help. I'm certainly not perfect myself (heck nobody is), but if your audience has trouble decrypting your grammar, you either loose audience or loose your persuasiveness.

If I say, "Know what is car very fast and great deal for $3000 dollars less, now buy!" can you tell I'm selling a car for $3000 less that's a good deal? Sure, but the fact is that some people will either start ignoring me or not listening as well. In other words, it has less to do with the language used and all to do with the audience understanding you. This goes for EVERYONE here (otherwise this conversation would be between PMs and not in the public thread), myself included. If you are trying to make your points with regards to new ideas and suggestions; try to make them a clear as possible for your reading audience to understand you clearly and effectively!

As far as this idea, I think it is great and should be worth of a genuinely determined attempt to include in NS2. (I would not have voted for it if I didn't strongly support it)

Kouji_San

I like the idea (another YES vote <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> )

I think what's going on here is that HatlabuFarkas is not able to understand or write English and is using somekind of babelfish translator to translate our posts into his language and his posts (in his language) back to english.
Correct me if I'm wrong here HatlabuFarkas! Anyway ifso, a lot grammar and points made will get lost that way. Also it's not normal English I'm reading here, but I can make <i>some</i> sense of it <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

7045713

Ok, the picture is not loading, but I am assuming it is just a chamber "growing" out of a wall as opposed to a floor.

This would be interesting... perhaps they can only be added to walls (and ceilings <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> ) where there is DI? You know, so the chamber has something to latch onto...

Harimau

^ Myeh. Skulks can walk on walls just fine.

darktimes

what have skulks to do whit wall chambers?

i support this idea!

<!--coloro:#00FF00--><span style="color:#00FF00"><!--/coloro-->VOTE: JES<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

Harimau

<!--quoteo(post=1678430:date=May 12 2008, 07:43 PM:name=darktimes)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(darktimes @ May 12 2008, 07:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1678430"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->what have skulks to do whit wall chambers?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
everything.

HatlabuFarkas

<!--quoteo(post=1678250:date=May 10 2008, 07:06 AM:name=darktimes)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(darktimes @ May 10 2008, 07:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1678250"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i can understand him..
i dont know what for problem you have.
"if i plant a offensive chamber to a wall, the res cost is not 10?"
what is here the problem?
"maybe <i>when you plant it to a wall</i> the cost is 5, and the chamber is weaker, smalller, and the firepower is under 10?"
its normal english.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


<!--coloro:#2E8B57--><span style="color:#2E8B57"><!--/coloro-->0<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->h, <!--coloro:#2E8B57--><span style="color:#2E8B57"><!--/coloro-->M<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->y <!--coloro:#2E8B57--><span style="color:#2E8B57"><!--/coloro-->G<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->od !
i must say 0mg <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />, and i hope this guy not the 0lny ONE to understand my <a href="http://youtube.com/results?search_query=kknd" target="_blank">Krushed, Killed, Destroyed</a> english.

Harimau

Does no one else see the humour in this?

HatlabuFarkas

<!--quoteo(post=1678845:date=May 18 2008, 10:30 AM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Harimau @ May 18 2008, 10:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1678845"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Does no one else see the humour in this?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Some guys, (most hungarians) <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->don't care<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> about humour. <!--coloro:#00FF00--><span style="color:#00FF00"><!--/coloro-->go0D<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, and <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->BAD<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> humour, all in all, all is about <!--coloro:#00FF00--><span style="color:#00FF00"><!--/coloro-->FUN, and humour<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->.

but some guys is says HAHH-HAHH, and write an answer, like this.

Some players (MOST is come fr0m NS) is <!--coloro:#00FF00--><span style="color:#00FF00"><!--/coloro-->go0d<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> guys, level headed. but some guys is <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->NOT<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> accept the humour.

i hope u are <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->NOT<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> alone to see a homour in this NS forum .... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />