Team Balance Options Only Good From Ready Room ?

Browser_ICEBrowser_ICE Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6944Members
I've seen cases in 1.01 games I played where upon exiting ready room it was saying that I coudln't join that team because I would make it unbalanced, but in the same game, I saw on multiple occasions, people leaving the game and therefore leaving teams in situation like 7 agains 4 players !!!!

Is there an option that forces teams to be even at all times and not just at Ready room exit ?

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  • LiquidFusionLiquidFusion Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3139Members
  • PetitMortePetitMorte Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7232Members
    edited November 2002
    It wouldn't be difficult to make an adminmod plugin that detects extremely unbalanced teams and then bounces people as needed back to the readyroom... That is, once adminmod and NS start playing nice together again. (win32 servers only)

    Perhaps even an admin_vote_balance command that brings up a vote to do it.

    IDEAS:

    - The success of the vote depends only on how the LOW team votes.
    - The people moved would be ones from the HIGH team that votes yes to balance.
    - If the vote succeeds and noone on the HIGH team votes yes, then people would be bounced in "last connected, first bounced" order

    Anyhoo, there is already an AM plugin that lets admins force players back to the readyroom, but it sounds like you're looking for an automated solution. Perhaps it just checks for balance when someone exits.

    existing plugin here:<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=9915&hl=adminmod' target='_blank'>NS Forum plugin announcement</a>

    Either way, the actual game balance depends on the players themselves. It would kinda suck to be in a 7-3 game where the side where the 3 well-coordinated alien players are winning, and have a plugin swap out the overworked, inexperienced marine commander who just happened to be last in. (did ya follow that?)

    Just some ideas.
  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Here is an idea for the plugin:

    2 min Check timer. every 2 min it check the team balances (just check every player and what team they are one and come up with a cummulative total). Then check if they are in the com chair or gorge. Then pick the rest at random excluding those as long as the team isn't all gorge. If it is? pick them at random, it doesn't matter then <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Or you can check the balance on the event "client send drop" and then do the above and check those in the ready room.

    i may have never programmed a AM plugin, but i do program. I dunno if u can get access to those events in the adminmod plugin or not.

    Just my 2cents worth.
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    the teams are often uneven because all the team balance does is STOP people from going to the team with 2 more players than the other, but if its 8v8 and 2 ppl leave it'd be unfair to make it just make the guy go on the other team, perhaps tho on the 1st person's death he should be made to go to the ready room.
  • GoleXGoleX Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7681Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Necro-+Nov 11 2002, 03:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necro- @ Nov 11 2002, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the teams are often uneven because all the team balance does is STOP people from going to the team with 2 more players than the other, but if its 8v8 and 2 ppl leave it'd be unfair to make it just make the guy go on the other team, perhaps tho on the 1st person's death he should be made to go to the ready room.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is the reason I created the plugin linked above. Helped so far.
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    yea, nice golex, can u add to it so it checks every few minutes for inbalance and AUTOMATICALLY kicks one at random to the readyroom (not the commander tho)
  • GoleXGoleX Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7681Members
    Its on my TODO list Necro <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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