Cell Phones Can Cause Mouth Cancer!

DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
<div class="IPBDescription">A 50% increase in the number of parotid tumors</div><a href="http://news.softpedia.com/news/Cell-Phones-Can-Cause-Mouth-Cancer-79127.shtml" target="_blank">Cell Phones Can Cause Mouth Cancer!</a>

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The wireless technology has invaded our lives. But do you think this comes with no consequences on our health? Cell phones expose you for long periods to RF (radio frequencies).

A recent research has shown that chatting on a mobile phone before
bedtime would cause you insomnia. The team from Sweden's Karolinska Institute and Wayne State University, in Michigan, found that mobile phone radiation of 884 MHz provokes insomnia, headaches and concentration difficulties.

But these are short-term effects, and many cancers have a 10-to-20-year latency period. Still, one cancer risk has just been detected by a team at the Tel Aviv University. The new research published in the "American Journal of Epidemiology" shows that people using cell phones for many hours daily are 50% more likely to develop mouth cancer, than individuals who do not use cell phones at all. Moreover, cell phone users in rural areas could be exposed to a higher risk for cancer because cell phones have to emit higher levels of radiation for picking up the signal of the fewer available antennas.

The research was made on 500 patients with benign and malignant tumors of the salivary gland and 1,300 healthy individuals. Those who used cell phones for several hours per day displayed a 50% increase in the probability to grow a tumor of the parotid gland, compared to infrequent users of the cell phone.

The parotid gland represents the largest salivary gland, found near the jaw and ear, exactly where users hold the cell phones while using them.

So far, this type of research paid special attention to the effects of RF energy on children, adolescents, pregnant women and fetuses, but this one has been made on the overall population. It is commonly believed that children are more susceptible to the negative effects of the RF, because of their developing tissue and organ systems.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Doubt this will be taken seriously... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":0" border="0" alt="wow.gif" />
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  • Paranoia2MBParanoia2MB Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7832Members
    Text messaging ftw.

    If I get hand cancer, maybe my hand will get better so I give better backhands to my hoes.
    <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    Good point Paranoia, or use a Bluetooth? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    <a href="http://www.andy######.com/andy_######_show/a######_show_01_04_03.html" target="_blank">When life gives you tumors, put on Tumor Toppers!</a>
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    So many things have been revealed to cause cancer (even some basic foods, like Jalapenos), I'm beginning to think that having Cancer is actually the "natural" state of life, and never getting cancer is some kind of medical disorder, and doctors are just seeing it wrong.


    It makes sense when you're me.
  • RetalesRetales Panigg cultist Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19180Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1671123:date=Feb 21 2008, 06:48 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Feb 21 2008, 06:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671123"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So many things have been revealed to cause cancer (even some basic foods, like Jalapenos), I'm beginning to think that having Cancer is actually the "natural" state of life, and never getting cancer is some kind of medical disorder, and doctors are just seeing it wrong.
    It makes sense when you're me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah man, EVERYTHING causes cancer.

    Using toiletpaper gives you asscancer
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1671123:date=Feb 21 2008, 11:48 AM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Feb 21 2008, 11:48 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671123"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So many things have been revealed to cause cancer (even some basic foods, like Jalapenos), I'm beginning to think that having Cancer is actually the "natural" state of life, and never getting cancer is some kind of medical disorder, and doctors are just seeing it wrong.
    It makes sense when you're me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    lots of things make sense when you are you. Like Jalapenos being a 'basic food'.
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1671125:date=Feb 21 2008, 06:09 PM:name=Retales)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Retales @ Feb 21 2008, 06:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671125"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah man, EVERYTHING causes cancer.

    Using toiletpaper gives you asscancer<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah, but using your hands instead gives you hand cancer!

    So you are stuck between hand- and asscancer.
  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    Better than brain cancer...
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1671104:date=Feb 21 2008, 10:13 AM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Feb 21 2008, 10:13 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671104"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><a href="http://news.softpedia.com/news/Cell-Phones-Can-Cause-Mouth-Cancer-79127.shtml" target="_blank">Cell Phones Can Cause Mouth Cancer!</a>
    Doubt this will be taken seriously... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":0" border="0" alt="wow.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Please hold a cell phone to your mouth. Thanks.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1671127:date=Feb 21 2008, 05:18 PM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Feb 21 2008, 05:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671127"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->lots of things make sense when you are you. Like Jalapenos being a 'basic food'.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Jalapenos are included in enough things to be counted as an important ingredient, in my opinion.

    And mine is the right one, as we all know.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    Once, I gave this girl cancer. Was so embarrassing to call her to get herself checked!
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1671158:date=Feb 21 2008, 10:21 PM:name=Abra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Abra @ Feb 21 2008, 10:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671158"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Once, I gave this girl cancer. Was so embarrassing to call her to get herself checked!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Aids != Cancer
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Many hours daily? Oh man. And here I was almost getting worried. Is it even POSSIBLE to do that? I think mine'd drain the battery in an hour, about. And it'd drain my bank account in about that time, too.
  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    Cell phones are just doing their job of thinning out the idiot yammering girl population.
  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    Not that I've read the actual study. But wouldn't using a cell-phone for several hours a day dictate an extremely narrowed lifestyle? Masking the real cause under this common trait of the group.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    It's a shame that texting isn't to blame for something serious like this. <img src="http://www.nsmod.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1671185:date=Feb 22 2008, 09:59 AM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Feb 22 2008, 09:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671185"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's a shame that texting isn't to blame for something serious like this. <img src="http://www.nsmod.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah! Damn kids and their new fangled methods of keeping in touch with each other!

    Back in my day, we just had frisbees that we threw in the general direction of a friend when we wanted to talk to them. If they didn't find it, tough, we're no longer friends.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1671187:date=Feb 22 2008, 06:49 AM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Feb 22 2008, 06:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671187"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah! Damn kids and their new fangled methods of keeping in touch with each other!

    Back in my day, we just had frisbees that we threw in the general direction of a friend when we wanted to talk to them. If they didn't find it, tough, we're no longer friends.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Truth.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1671190:date=Feb 22 2008, 07:50 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Feb 22 2008, 07:50 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671190"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I blame atheists.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I blame lolf
  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    edited February 2008
    <!--quoteo(post=1671176:date=Feb 21 2008, 09:05 PM:name=Haze)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Haze @ Feb 21 2008, 09:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671176"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Cell phones are just doing their job of thinning out the idiot yammering girl population.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just because she wouldn't talk to you in high school doesn't mean she deserves to get cancer.

    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Don't take this too seriously.</span>
  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1671214:date=Feb 22 2008, 12:02 PM:name=locallyunscene)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(locallyunscene @ Feb 22 2008, 12:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671214"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just because she wouldn't talk to you in high school doesn't mean she deserves to get cancer.

    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Don't take this too seriously.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Just think about it. RIGHT NOW, there is a conversation about shoes flowing through your body on it's way to/from the tower.

    Someone needs to get cancer for that.
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1671238:date=Feb 23 2008, 03:40 AM:name=[WHO]Them)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE([WHO]Them @ Feb 23 2008, 03:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671238"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Just think about it. RIGHT NOW, there is a conversation about shoes flowing through your body on it's way to/from the tower.

    Someone needs to get cancer for that.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    What <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />

    Shoes like things you put on your feet?
    Body like, our fleshy hull?
    Tower like tall building?

    This doesn't make any sense, at all!
    Someone please explain this to me or die of cancer. Either way I will be satisfied. (If you decide to die of cancer: Pics or it didn't happen)
  • RetalesRetales Panigg cultist Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19180Members
    He means that some 'idiot yammering girls' are having a conversation about shoes on their cellphones, and the signal is travelling through your body (on it's way to or from one of those cellphone/radio towers)
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1671179:date=Feb 22 2008, 03:26 AM:name=[WHO]Them)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE([WHO]Them @ Feb 22 2008, 03:26 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1671179"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Not that I've read the actual study. But wouldn't using a cell-phone for several hours a day dictate an extremely narrowed lifestyle? Masking the real cause under this common trait of the group.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Exactly. This paper demonstrates a correlation between just two factors: "cell phone use" and "probability of growing a tumour of the parotid gland". This doesn't necessarily mean anything, especially given the huge number of other factors that could contribute to the results. Of course, translate this into Hysterical Science Journalism and it's "CELL PHONES WILL GIVE YOU MOUTH CANCER YOU ARE GOING TO DIE!!!!".

    You never see headlines like "Follow-up Paper Casts Doubt on the Hypothesis that Jalapeno Peppers Cause Cancer - More Work to Follow," because the press are only interested in solitary (often preliminary) studies that they can over-hype and whip everyone into a frenzy over. It erodes the public understanding of science and makes people think that it's some ridiculous crowd of weirdos conducting "Breakthrough Studies" that are constantly contradicting each other rather than a sober and process of testing and re-testing until you have a solid picture of what is going on.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    Wouldn't it make just as much sense to say that constant talking causes mouth cancer? Have there been any studies that compare people who talk for hours a day without a phone and those that use a phone?
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Did someone say <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=wCF3ywukQYA" target="_blank">shoes?</a>
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited February 2008
    To add to what [Who]Them and Insane are saying:

    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_d...imply_causation</a>

    Read this article, especially the examples.

    Studies like the one cited in this post are important because strong correlations need to be explained. But do not rule out the possibility of other factors at work here.

    For the lazy, here's a very pertinent example from the above wikipedia article:
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Young children who sleep with the light on are much more likely to develop myopia in later life.

    This result of a study at University of Pennsylvania Medical Center was published in the May 13, 1999 issue of Nature and received much coverage at the time in the popular press [4]. However a later study at Ohio State University did not find any link between infants sleeping with the light on and developing myopia but did find a strong link between parental myopia and the development of child myopia and also noted that myopic parents were more likely to leave a light on in their children's bedroom [5].<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • tjosantjosan Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16374Members, Constellation
    Mh, yes this is all true. But I think it's pretty convincing in this case, as we know - generally - what types of stress on cells can cause cancer, and this also correlates well to the type of stress a cellphone would submit the cells of the parotid gland to.

    That being said there's really no need to panic. Even if we could be certain that using cell phones excessively does increase the chance of getting cancer in the parotid gland, the number of people who get this type of cancer to begin with isn't all that great. And the parotid gland is situated and structured in a way that makes it comparatively easier to deal with than other types of cancer.

    Rawr.
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    I don't think that it's necessarily convincing at all. The writer of the piece hasn't bothered to provide a link to the paper he's citing, which means that we can't tell whether or not he's reporting it correctly. Given that the headline "Cellphones Can Cause Mouth Cancer!" suggests that this journalist <b>is</b> of the opinion that correlation and causation are the same thing, we can't be sure that he's accurately reporting what the findings of the paper are. For example: how was cell phone use controlled? How many hours a day do you have to use your cellphone to achieve this increased risk of cancer? How many hours a day counts as infrequent use? These are all questions that the paper should be answering, and yet are oddly absent from the article.
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