Brain/machine interface progress

GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">And Ghost in the Shell get a little closer</div>A monkey was trained to make a robot walk on a treadmill.

The monkey was in North Carolina and the robot was in Japan.

<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/15/science/15robo.html?ex=1201150800&en=b5ef42933a1e1201&ei=5070&emc=eta1'" target="_blank">Article</a>

Personally, this makes me pretty happy, but I'd like to hear the general sentiment towards brain/machine interfaces on these boards.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I'd settle for eye-to-screen mouse movement first.
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  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->When Idoya’s brain signals made the robot walk, some neurons in her brain controlled her own legs, whereas others controlled the robot’s legs. The latter set of neurons had basically become attuned to the robot’s legs after about an hour of practice and visual feedback.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the upshot of this that when we find a safe way to put electrodes into human brains, we'll pretty much be able to add thought-controlled robotic limbs to ourselves, and learn to control them like a normal limb <i>within an hour.</i>

    Sign me up for Doc-Oc style tentacles please.
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    It's awesome, think of video games. But I don't like how they opened the Monkey's head and whatnot, but it's a small price to pay.
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  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    Great, I can't wait to screw handicapped people over with a magnetron <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Beware, Faskalia. They travel in packs. His buddy is probably sneaking up on you from behind, ready to crush your puny little bone spine with his hydraulic mega-arms.
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    I'm surprised at the lack of replies in the thread...
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1667779:date=Jan 17 2008, 11:16 PM:name=Gwahir)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gwahir @ Jan 17 2008, 11:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1667779"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm surprised at the lack of replies in the thread...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    There has been ~3-4 years worth of "MONKEY CONTROLS MACHINE WITH BRAIN" stuff popping up online and in newspapers and magazines and stuff. I'll get excited about it when it's anything more than a freaking monkey controlling another freaking robot. Get me into the equation. Let me control the robot! Or the monkey, I don't care.
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  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    What was that interface where you type with your eye called again? There was a thread about it here, but I can't remember how long ago it was.
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    okay tycho, what about that research conducted with a human with locked-in syndrome that allowed a person to speak using a computer and brain implants?
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1667793:date=Jan 18 2008, 05:08 AM:name=Gwahir)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gwahir @ Jan 18 2008, 05:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1667793"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->okay tycho, what about that research conducted with a human with locked-in syndrome that allowed a person to speak using a computer and brain implants?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Hah, I can do that <i>without</i> a computer!
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    Until I can use my brain to control another human, I don't find it a technological advance.
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  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1667783:date=Jan 18 2008, 12:44 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jan 18 2008, 12:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1667783"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There has been ~3-4 years worth of "MONKEY CONTROLS MACHINE WITH BRAIN" stuff popping up online and in newspapers and magazines and stuff. I'll get excited about it when it's anything more than a freaking monkey controlling another freaking robot. Get me into the equation. Let me control the robot! Or the monkey, I don't care.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    What if the robot was 1000 feet tall?

    Or the monkey?
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1667806:date=Jan 18 2008, 09:16 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jan 18 2008, 09:16 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1667806"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hah, I can do that <i>without</i> a computer!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But you don't have lock-in syndrome unfortunately.

    <!--quoteo(post=1667821:date=Jan 18 2008, 12:09 PM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thaldarin @ Jan 18 2008, 12:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1667821"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Until I can use my brain to control another human, I don't find it a technological advance.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You should learn how to be persuasive in that case, or buy Chloroform.
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  • PerfectionsFlawPerfectionsFlaw Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13555Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1667783:date=Jan 18 2008, 12:44 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jan 18 2008, 12:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1667783"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There has been ~3-4 years worth of "MONKEY CONTROLS MACHINE WITH BRAIN" stuff popping up online and in newspapers and magazines and stuff. I'll get excited about it when it's anything more than a freaking monkey controlling another freaking robot. Get me into the equation. Let me control the robot! Or the monkey, I don't care.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    There is this video on youtube where an old chinese man had electrodes or whatever they're called attached to his legs and arms. Then they put his old ass in an exoskeleton and applauded as he lifted 250lbs of rice with ease.
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  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1667958:date=Jan 20 2008, 07:17 PM:name=PerfectionsFlaw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PerfectionsFlaw @ Jan 20 2008, 07:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1667958"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There is this video on youtube where an old chinese man had electrodes or whatever they're called attached to his legs and arms. Then they put his old ass in an exoskeleton and applauded as he lifted 250lbs of rice with ease.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    250lbs of rice <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />

    pfff, If he had lifted 250lbs of hardened steel, that would have been impressive.
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    The equivalent surface volume of that rice in lead would have been impressive.
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  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1667971:date=Jan 20 2008, 11:15 PM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thaldarin @ Jan 20 2008, 11:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1667971"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The equivalent surface volume of that rice in lead would have been impressive.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    On the surface of Jupiter, YES!
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  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    Call me when it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

    (See what I did there?)
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1667986:date=Jan 21 2008, 03:09 AM:name=Black_Mage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black_Mage @ Jan 21 2008, 03:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1667986"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Call me when it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

    (See what I did there?)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No, please enligthen us our powerful one.
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    He implied swapping out organic limbs for cybernetic ones.
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