Development Blog Update - Fourth podcast
Max
Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
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All joking aside I really do hope you do well with this release and keep up the good work.
I'm not sure if that is what you guys were referring to, but it has certainly helped me.
About the podcast itself: Great music at the right volume, in my opinion it made the podcast feel a little more "relaxed" than the other ones, which is great because I guess most of us are pretty tired on Fridays, so we get to relax while listening to you guys <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" /> Care to share with us the name of some of your favorite artists? Oh and the music outtro at the end is a good idea. It'd be great if you could make it end in a fade out or something!
Once again, I'm glad to see my ever-growing admiration for you guys is justified <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" />
ROFL sames Zero, grats on Decoda warrhoo, truly a Einstein moment. shame you guys don't use Maya enough, g's ya's say it completely different to us Australian's. Maya Maya. Hum I think the new view tool, be it needed or not, *note the console command. should pertain some NS / TSA likeness, perhaps similar to how the TSA map out installations and so on and with that said, i think it should be called, Nano Grid basically TSA lands on space station flood corridors with nanites, instant map lay out, something changes, need to find a new route or way around refresh Nano Grid. so semi NS 2 advertisement there for yas all, other source users DL this tool its great, whats it called, oh nana grid, made by them unknown worlds people, they made Natural Selection 2, oh cool. cool. cool. whats NS 2?. argh now that is the right question.
Love the music in the back ground was actually standing and boping along to it while listening, you couldn't really call the randy Mr bean like tommy movements i was doing dancing but sure i was enjoying it, actually thought you where going to let the whole song at the end play but I understand copyright reasons.
So when do we get them screen shots released of the works from the chucks of alpha tech release, the e team really need some new material.
we may have to resort to making our own, we have already turned to cannibalism, excessive drug use,*psychedelics free the mind man, and some of us are trying to better and increase our medaclorians to advance our Jedi mind tricks and mind reading powers just so we can guess whats around the next corner for NS 2, hum perhaps they should just listen to the pod cast.
Also you can't just quickly read it over, you can't easily seek back, or skip a boring chapter. Don't get me wrong, I really like that you tell us what you are doing, but I just don't think that the podcasts are the right way to do that.
- Garo
Written news might be easier for us
<!--quoteo(post=1652943:date=Sep 29 2007, 04:15 PM:name=ZONK)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ZONK @ Sep 29 2007, 04:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1652943"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I prefer any news I can get. They are busy let them do what is easiest for them. <3 NS2<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
but podcasts are probably easier for them. This is a good way for them to inform people without taking up as much time. Perhaps those that really want a written transcript can get some people together to transcribe them each week.
Also, a material previewer would be delicious.
<!--quoteo(post=1652937:date=Sep 29 2007, 12:39 PM:name=KungFuDiscoMonkey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Sep 29 2007, 12:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1652937"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think we would all rather them spend time working on the game than trying to transcribe the podcasts.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree. Perhaps there is a member of this new E-Team that might want to transcribe it...
That's exactly right. If there's something that we really think you should know about, we'll write up a news post.
wow thats twice you've insulted the dev's - in two different sections of this forum. how does "we've created a new tool, finished decoda etc "sound like slacking off? EDIT :- do you have a habbit of going to peoples places and telling them you don't like being there?
on-topic - would be it that hard for someone(i't doesnt have to be charlie or max) to just do a quick point form transcript so that the updates aren't limited to the native english speakers? And post it in this thread and with the "new podcast" message on the site? The transcript can be in english be cause its a lot easier for someone to read text and translate it at their own pace - or even just drop it into a translator app.
They are just bonuses but a 5 minute point form transcript isnt going to delay ns2 for 12 months now is it.
If you got really serious, there are some very good pieces of voice recognition software which will do the transcript for you.
<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=102803" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....howtopic=102803</a>
Why do you sound like the biggest twit in the world?
(yes moderators i know i know, dont insult people, but he deserves it... cmon... dont ban me)
If this is already common knowlege great, but I have not really seen much geometry created in source maps using displacements aside from terrain. Id be happy to write a tutorial if it would be of use.
I found it interesting some of the discussion regarding displacements and how hard they are to use in source. I think displacements/subdivide are rather easy to use and work with achieving some curvy geometry and have personally used various techniques to great success in the mod I work on. I am not 100% certain everyone understands the techniques I use and how it is done but perhaps I should write a tutorial. I mean I think it's great if some tools are created to make the process easier but I am not sure if the things I have discovered regarding displacement manipulation are common knowledge. Here is a picture I put together that shows some of the things I have created with displacements. Curvy ceilings, pipes, pillars, rounded walls, even an entire bullet train. <img src="http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5748/displacmentsoe9.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
If this is already common knowlege great, but I have not really seen much geometry created in source maps using displacements aside from terrain. Id be happy to write a tutorial if it would be of use.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd love to see a tutorial about it.
It's the complete opposite. A displacement no matter how complex the end result (perfectly rounded ball for example) it only is as expensive as the number of sides used to create it. Thus if you were say to create a 32 sided cylinder from the brush tool, that is significantly more expensive than drawing my perfectly rounded cylinder I created with only 4 sides. Thats the big plus with displacements is they are super cheap to render and they look superior to non displaced bsp (as far as curvy architecture is concerned).
Also you can't just quickly read it over, you can't easily seek back, or skip a boring chapter. Don't get me wrong, I really like that you tell us what you are doing, but I just don't think that the podcasts are the right way to do that.
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Boring! boring!!! omfg you are compleatly wrong, the podcasts are very interesting. ( shareing my and others opinions xD)'
Also how could you say that podcasts are wrong, i say they are right, they are better than reading some blog post... im a american i cant keep my consintration on LONG BORING blog posts, heck i really prefur not to read if i have too xD (although i am a bookworm at times <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" /> ) I say, podcasts > Blog posts
BUT for people who dont speak english i also agree that there is a need for a blog post because i understand how hard it is to listen to someone speak in a language that you have minimal to no knowlage in... Its like BLAH BLAH BLAH *background music* BLAH BLAH BLAH
(Developers please dont take that into offence i am just saying think how people hear it who dont know the language or like i said have minimal knowlage in it.)
btw english IS my first and only language x.x;
BUT I HATE THOSE PODCASTS -.-
cant you just write a text instead of letting me listen 20 minutes to something with so bad music in backround... i almost fall asleep -.-
an all time this entertaining dialog >.< *smatz* *pfi* *hihihi* soundsspam off btw <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
EDIT: oh well saw someone already claimed about podcast <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> so sorry for another one
Also, a great program concept I, and a lot of mappers, and developers, could use - i think - is a program that more or less automates the prosess of getting materials from Photoshop to hammer and ingame. I'm not sure if such tool exists, but something along the lines of
"Material color map - browse..."
"Bump map - browse..."
"Spec map - browse..."
And then the option to just let the engine give the material some basic values and attributes, or input the users own.
After pointing the program at your .tga files or whatever it can use, it would create the files necessary, in their right folders. A reboot of hammer would then show the materials in hammer, ready to use.
I'm not sure if it is already done, or if the process is just easier and less boring than I find it.