A "webbed" summary

Zeno

<div class="IPBDescription">of all suggested ideas</div>Hi there, hi forum members.
First of all something about me: i live in germany and learned english in school. My last lesson was 2 years ago so i'm not very fit in it. Therefore pls don't start flaming if you dont like something i wrote - it could be a misunderstanding <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> .
I've played ns since the first (to tell the truth it was actually the second) day but i haven't played(or very rarely) for approx. 2 years now...but i know the game <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />

My first suggestion for ns2 is actually not for the game but for the forum:
I'd like to see a webbed thread that summerizes all suggestions made so far. Such a thread should be started by a moderator and be updated frequently: Whenever somebody opens a new thread with a new suggestion, his idea is transferred to this thread (excepting ideas that are obviously unpromissing or stupid). This idea gets summerized to one sentence or a few words and a click on it links to the corrisponding thread. If the dev team/Flayra made a comment on a suggestion(whetcher they/he likes it or not), it would be written right next to it. All the lines should be classified by status(like:rejected, accepted,etc) or by ...category(weapons, gameplay, map, ...). This all could look like this:
for example:

1. <a href="http://test" target="_blank">Renaming turrets into torents</a> - <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->denied<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
2. <a href="http://test" target="_blank">Replacing the lerk with a Scorpian that hovarz w/o flapping</a> - <!--coloro:#2E8B57--><span style="color:#2E8B57"><!--/coloro-->dev team is considering this<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
3. <a href="http://test" target="_blank">AWP and flamethrower</a> - <!--coloro:#FFFF00--><span style="color:#FFFF00"><!--/coloro--> unknown<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
4. ...

This would of course require the dev team to be amenable to suggestions from the community and that the devs at least sometimes have a look at the forums.

btw. there has been something like this in the dystopia suggestions forum but its gone since they renewed their page/forum...

What do you think? Who would like that too?

[Deleted User]

Well first of all, your english is very good. Better than my girlfriends, whos from germany, and has lived in australia/england for two years haha. Shes back in germany for a year and downhill her english goes haha. where abouts from germany are you from?

anyway, i really like your idea.

every time i make a post im worrying "i wonder if this has already been said"

not to mention itd be a nice little read to keep up to date, rather than reading all the threads individually.

AND, maybe each little bullet point could have a little vote box below it, so with a click you can say what you think.
and it would keep a nice little tally.

[Deleted User]

but just to add to that, a lot of suggestions would be hard to summarize into even a few sentances.

hookeyed

Heh, I was thinking about this. There's a pile of great ideas in amongst all the arbitrary rambling. Maybe if we started posting concepts as polls?

niaccurshi

The list only needs to be thread titles with links to the threads.

SparkTR

I'm not too sure Flayra, Max or other people in the team will use it, since if they were to give any game information away such as concepts, weapons, model ideas, names etc. they would want to do it in a front page update or high profile interview, not a low-profile forum post. This is still a fantastic idea and should help stop threads about the same subject and provide an interesting read.

[Deleted User]

<!--quoteo(post=1647756:date=Sep 6 2007, 08:07 PM:name=niaccurshi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(niaccurshi @ Sep 6 2007, 08:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1647756"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The list only needs to be thread titles with links to the threads.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Isnt that pretty much what the forum already is :S....

niaccurshi

Not exactly. If an idea, good or bad, has been thought of and discussed and then left (or locked) then it will disappear pages into the ether. A webbed list of ideas and what the devs have said to them (yes, maybe, no...probably mostly maybes and no's!) would be a good way of making sure those ideas still get some views. More importantly ideas are going to creep up over and over again as the development process on NS2 continues and (hopefully) it picks up some more people interested in it, and the best way to stop repeat postings going over the same ground is a webbed thread saying "hey, matey, don't be rash, look at this list before posting your idea!"

It used to be done in some form, except the only things that got listed were things that were never going to happen as far as I remember. I think it'd be a very good resource to have.

hookeyed

<!--quoteo(post=1647761:date=Sep 6 2007, 06:52 AM:name=SparkTR)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SparkTR @ Sep 6 2007, 06:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1647761"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm not too sure Flayra, Max or other people in the team will use it, since if they were to give any game information away such as concepts, weapons, model ideas, names etc. they would want to do it in a front page update or high profile interview, not a low-profile forum post<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I think the idea is that the developers could use it as a quick reference to what players are looking for. A focal point for the forum.

Moving_Target0

The main thing that I'd like about this would be the status that the devs have after the end of the name. It would let the community know what kind of stuff the devs don't want to hear, and the kind of thinking that is useful to them.

Svenpa

Now you just have to find someone to actually scavenge trough 50+ pages of ideas and insert them into one topic. Good luck with that <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

corpsman

<!--quoteo(post=1647858:date=Sep 6 2007, 05:16 PM:name=Svenpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Svenpa @ Sep 6 2007, 05:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1647858"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Now you just have to find someone to actually scavenge trough 50+ pages of ideas and insert them into one topic. Good luck with that <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Plus, if they do post a "###### that, it aint gonna happen" reply, they would have to close the thread? Would it THEN be considered a promise? I mean, I see your point, it's almost like... are they even reading this? But, I guess some feedback would be nice.

Zeno

@Stars: i'm from Munich ^^


<!--quoteo(post=1647858:date=Sep 7 2007, 12:16 AM:name=Svenpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Svenpa @ Sep 7 2007, 12:16 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1647858"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Now you just have to find someone to actually scavenge trough 50+ pages of ideas and insert them into one topic. Good luck with that <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Yes there are a lot of ideas already. But it doesn't have to be only one single person who'd go through it. Several moderators could share the work or better: everyone could contribute if its possible to make the thread editable to all forum members (like a wiki) until the old suggestions are in. Also not every thread/suggestion has to be in there. Like i said the obviously irrational suggestions which don't have a realistic chance to even be read by the devs could be ignored (unless they are mentioned again and again so an entry in the webbed thread is required to stop this).

I think that the main obstacle to get the webbed thread going is that people are afraid of the work. But we just need to start and then it will evelop. I mean..... this doesen't have to be finished within one day or hour. Even if it takes one month or more it's still better than not doing this at all isn't it?

MasterPTG

I think the devs probably already have a really good idea of where they want to go. They probably supplement their ideas with random bits and pieces gleaned from the forums, but I don't see the reason of compiling a very large idea list--as it would essentially entail almost every thread from this forum (as a lot of ideas are similar, but not the same).

Svenpa

I'm not saying the mods are supposed to do it, any member can and should, mods already have lots of things to do daily so I'd say pushing it on them is out of the question.

I just don't believe anyone mod or member, really will go through all the effort. Joining forces with many members sounds like a idea but how will it be organized? How do you know all of them keep their word? Finally it will be a total mess to bring all the finished work together in one easily readable thread (alphabetical order? chronological? personal opinion? Positive feedback? Thumbs up/down rating?.

Rest assured, I'm not against the idea, I just can't see it happen. There's also the risk it might not prove as useful as one might have hoped.

schkorpio

with english like yours, and ideas that you bring i'm suprised germany didn't win ww2 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /> or did they and just fooled us into thinking we won?

anyways yes some type of organization would be most welcome in the forum - at the moment its just a pile of papers sitting on a desk waiting to be sorted.
Sure we have a search function, but as if anyone uses it before they post their greatest ever idea

Moving_Target0

<!--quoteo(post=1648442:date=Sep 10 2007, 04:14 AM:name=schkorpio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(schkorpio @ Sep 10 2007, 04:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1648442"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->with english like yours, and ideas that you bring i'm suprised germany didn't win ww2 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /> or did they and just fooled us into thinking we won?

anyways yes some type of organization would be most welcome in the forum - at the moment its just a pile of papers sitting on a desk waiting to be sorted.
Sure we have a search function, but as if anyone uses it before they post their greatest ever idea<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I think the problem was that they weren't born yet.

Anyways, yeah, all I have to say is that if someone is willing to do the work, it would be an excellent idea.