What Would Happen if You put a Bull in a China Shop?

ChocolateChocolate The Team Mascot Join Date: 2006-10-31 Member: 58123Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Quite amusing</div>Here's a video I found on YouTube (well actually Digg) with the Mythbusters. I just have to share it because I'm not sure if they ever aired it on TV (at least I haven't seen it) and it's a quite surprising and amusing ending I find <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6D5fpGhDeI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6D5fpGhDeI</a>

PS: Sorry for the weird English above. Also searching "Bull China Shop" turns up the word bull**** quite often, so I didn't bother to check for a similar topic.
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    Saw this one on TV 3 days ago, twas' amusing.

    See if you can find the rest of the episode, it's pretty good.
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  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    Redford supports this episode!
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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    What polite and courteous animals
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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    Meh, they are getting more and more desperate for new myths to test everyday, now they are moving on proverbs as well <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    I've never heard of that phrase. But that was surprising.
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  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    watched it last night, the rest of the episode was good with them throwing bullets and beer kegs on a big fire <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    They've done several old sayings now, even "A rolling stone gathers no moss"
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  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    'like a bull in a china shop' doesn't exclusively mean 'being clumsy'. It's more to do with being out of place or ill-suited to a situation, such that you are liable to make (or have already made) big mistakes.

    Nevertheless the myth is still well and truly busted! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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  • HellbillyHellbilly A whole title out of pity... Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3931Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Mythbusters rock!

    I was actually as surprised as they how nimble they were around those shelves.
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    As much as I love the mythbusters and the crazy things they do, there's often alot wrong with their scientific procedures, and some of the stuff they declare "busted" is hardly that. Though for the life of me I can't think up a specific example, though there are plenty.
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  • HellbillyHellbilly A whole title out of pity... Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3931Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1646141:date=Aug 28 2007, 10:21 PM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Aug 28 2007, 10:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1646141"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As much as I love the mythbusters and the crazy things they do, there's often alot wrong with their scientific procedures, and some of the stuff they declare "busted" is hardly that. Though for the life of me I can't think up a specific example, though there are plenty.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Well Mythbusters has always been a more of an entertainment show then a purely scientific research show. Everytime they talk real science, a sign saying "Warning: Science Content" popping up kinda supports that.

    I do know what you mean though, sometimes you are left feeling something is missing.
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    edited August 2007
    Next up, the german version of that proverb: Elephant in a china shop!

    Also, agilecow is agile.


    Incidentally, speaking about cows, it'd be interesting if they could bust the myth that a charging cow is actually more dangerous than a charging bull. See, the myth as I know it goes that a bull will close its eyes moments before impact, while a cow won't, which makes it possible to sidestep the bull. Supposedly, no toreador will ever step into the ring with a cow, because the cow would just run the toreador down without, well, blinking.
    I'd like that put to the test.
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  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1646141:date=Aug 28 2007, 05:21 PM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Aug 28 2007, 05:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1646141"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As much as I love the mythbusters and the crazy things they do, there's often alot wrong with their scientific procedures, and some of the stuff they declare "busted" is hardly that. Though for the life of me I can't think up a specific example, though there are plenty.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    How about the ice bullet? They've tried that one, what, about three times now? And the only thing they haven't tried is the one thing which could actually make the myth work!

    The basic myth is that its possible for a sniper to kill someone using a bullet made of ice, the point being that the projectile then melts, leaving absolutely no trace of the sniper behind. Every time they've tried it so far they've used conventional bullets, just replacing the metal casing with ice. Every time this has been tried, the ice bullet just explodes. Hmm, I wonder why? They've tried "harder" forms of ice, letting the ice set longer e.t.c, but never once have they just tried using a high-powered air rifle.
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Question: Is there an air rifle powerful enough?

    If true, how is it different from other rifles? I mean, an air rifle propels a bullet with gas pressure. A "combustion" rifle does... exactly the same. It just generates the gas pressure in a different way, and the composition of the gas is different. But it's still gas. Since I don't watch mythbusters, I don't know how exactly the experiment fails, but if the projectile explodes, how will a high-powered air rifle prevent that?
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    wait, what is the point of replacing the casing with ice? You can pick up spent brass, picking up a bullet from the guy's head is harder, shouldn't they be replacing the SLUG with ice, not the case?
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    They replaced the tip of the bullet, not the casing. The ice would just melt because of the explosion cased by the casing. It's just too much heat for the ice.
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  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1646270:date=Aug 29 2007, 08:55 AM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Aug 29 2007, 08:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1646270"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->wait, what is the point of replacing the casing with ice? You can pick up spent brass, picking up a bullet from the guy's head is harder, shouldn't they be replacing the SLUG with ice, not the case?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Arg, yes. The slug. My bad.

    And yes, the real question <i>is</i> simply is there a powerful enough air rifle. Which is what I was hoping they were going to be testing. I imagined some sort of jury-rigged ice cannon should the air rifles prove insufficient. It didn't happen. Damn you Adam and Jamie.
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Well, the question is ALSO whether that real/hypothetical high-powered air rifle would just pulverize the ice bullet anyway.
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    And the other question is, if the rifle doesn't shatter the ice, does a piece of ice moving at nearly (over?) the speed of sound ever reach the target without melting away?
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  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    edited August 2007
    You know, most people use lead slugs because lead is heavy and hard. Ice just doesn't have enough mass to deliver any stopping power or the integrity to survive the acceleration and deceleration. If the kinematics don't work before we account for the real world, it's probably not going to work off the graph paper.
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    They never used highly compacted ice either. They used like frozen try ice, which would never work. Other frozen liquid would have higher densitys (glycerin? Ice that has been frozen and compacted for a few months? Frozen meat?).

    You could build a gun that shot frozen projectiles, they just weren't really trying...
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  • Paranoia2MBParanoia2MB Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7832Members
    Hahah, fun stuff. Mythbusters is always a great show to watch.


    And I hate to admit it, but I really really really REALLY like that red headed girl. *just dies*
    * <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pudgy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::gorge::" border="0" alt="pudgy.gif" /> waddle away*

    Hahah


    ^.^
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  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1646568:date=Aug 30 2007, 03:10 PM:name=Paranoia2MB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Paranoia2MB @ Aug 30 2007, 03:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1646568"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hahah, fun stuff. Mythbusters is always a great show to watch.
    And I hate to admit it, but I really really really REALLY like that red headed girl. *just dies*
    * <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pudgy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::gorge::" border="0" alt="pudgy.gif" /> waddle away*

    Hahah
    ^.^<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Goddamn you are a queer.
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  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    thats not a real myth busters episode - they didnt even make anything explode.

    Now i think the real test would be putting a chinese person in a bull shop. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1646598:date=Aug 30 2007, 09:45 PM:name=schkorpio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(schkorpio @ Aug 30 2007, 09:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1646598"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->thats not a real myth busters episode - they didnt even make anything explode.

    Now i think the real test would be putting a chinese person in a bull shop. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Later on in the episode they put aerosol cans of bug-repellant into a fire. They exploded.
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  • PerfectionsFlawPerfectionsFlaw Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13555Members
    edited September 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1646141:date=Aug 28 2007, 06:21 PM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Aug 28 2007, 06:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1646141"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As much as I love the mythbusters and the crazy things they do, there's often alot wrong with their scientific procedures, and some of the stuff they declare "busted" is hardly that. Though for the life of me I can't think up a specific example, though there are plenty.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    They tend to retest some of those myths given the amount of fanmail that contradicts their theory and offers a new one. The most recent one I can think of is 'Can you kill a sniper by firing a bullet through his scope?' I watched both episodes in the first even I could point out what they were doing wrong. They had a period rifle, with shells, it was the exact same rifle as used by Dewy Halfcock a Vietnam vet who claimed to kill a sniper in this fashion. They were not using period enemy scopes. They were using those bigass twenty dollar Walmart scopes. This I did not agree with. Every shot they fired at these scopes ricocheted out of the scope after penetrating only a few of the lenses. However, in the retest of the theory they used period scopes and armor piercing ammunition and were able, with one shot (because they were down to their last scope), penetrate the scope and 2 inches of the ballistics gel dummy head.

    Myth plausible/confirmed

    This girl?
    <a href="http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=0716&f=kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img0716.paintedover.com/uploads/thumbs/0716/kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1646370:date=Aug 29 2007, 04:56 PM:name=Black_Mage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black_Mage @ Aug 29 2007, 04:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1646370"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You know, most people use lead slugs because lead is heavy and hard. Ice just doesn't have enough mass to deliver any stopping power or the integrity to survive the acceleration and deceleration.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The ice bullet isn't about putting someone down, but more of breaking the skin an melting inside the body while being made from some poisonous substance. I believe the same episode they made a gun from an umbrella that shot a BB that could potentially be filled with poison. A Russian guy was killed that way or something.
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