no more black box

douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription">(episode 2)</div>according to <a href="http://pc.ign.com/articles/790/790013p1.html" target="_blank">ign</a> valve canceled the black box, which was the box containing episode 2, portal, and tf2. they are only going to sell the orange box, which contains episode 2, portal, tf2, halflife 2, and episode 1.

it doesnt specify whether this means only retail or online or what.
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  • TheGuyTheGuy Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19295Members, Constellation
    That's both evil and smart at the same time. But is this just retail or downloadable as well? Since the content of the article mentions product codes I assume it's only for retail. It would be pretty stupid to only offer the orange package online over steam.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    So what're people going to do with 2 copies of HL2?
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    I don't really want to have the extra copies of HL2 and HL2:Ep1 but like the article said I guess I can give them to a friend, but what about if they want to play all the other games? They have to buy the orange box and then they have extras. Hmm.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    So much for the respect I had for Valve... nothing says "screw you" to your fans much more than forcing us to pay an extra $10 for products we already have. This is ridiculous.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1627670:date=May 19 2007, 05:12 AM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ May 19 2007, 05:12 AM) [snapback]1627670[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    So what're people going to do with 2 copies of HL2?
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    Bury 'em next to the pile o' E.T games, I guess.
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    it seems likely that they would only do this retail. if they did it online too, they would lose a lot of respect from their fanbase by forcing them to buy 2 things they already have, and valve has always kept in touch with their fans. the people that would only buy ep2, portal, and tf2, are the ones that already have steam and could buy it online, while the ones that would buy the orange box are the people that would most likely not have steam and not know about how to buy the games other than from a store.
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    Every game from valve can be downloaded through steam. Maybe they will even go so far as to make seperate downloads possible for each game (I really only want TF2 and maybe Portal).
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1627698:date=May 19 2007, 02:23 AM:name=6john)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(6john @ May 19 2007, 02:23 AM) [snapback]1627698[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    it seems likely that they would only do this retail. if they did it online too, they would lose a lot of respect from their fanbase by forcing them to buy 2 things they already have, and valve has always kept in touch with their fans. the people that would only buy ep2, portal, and tf2, are the ones that already have steam and could buy it online, while the ones that would buy the orange box are the people that would most likely not have steam and not know about how to buy the games other than from a store.
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    Fair enough. I'm not really all that surprised that it isn't deemed economically feasible to cater the market of 10 some odd people who already have HL2 and EP1, but still refuse to buy games through steam.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    I think it's to get people who already use steam to buy through it - convert even more to buying through it.
    Sounds about fair to me.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Bah. Thanks for nothing. Sure, pull the box that contains exactly what I want. Now I'll have to borrow a credit card again. Thanks a bunch.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Well, I guess I won't have to buy Ep1 separately then. Still haven't gotten around to that.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Fine with me. An in-store box that only included Episode 2, Portal, and TF2 is just ASKING to confuse the idiots who can't understand the difference between it and the box that also includes HL2 and Ep1. Steam's better for the environment too.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1627703:date=May 19 2007, 08:49 AM:name=Tyrain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tyrain @ May 19 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]1627703[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Every game from valve can be downloaded through steam. Maybe they will even go so far as to make seperate downloads possible for each game (I really only want TF2 and maybe Portal).
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    I think the point people were making was the Black Box was the cheaper option over the alternatives of the Orange box and downloading them all separately.
  • arcticaarctica Shindiggery innit Join Date: 2005-02-18 Member: 41646Members
    aaaaaaaaaaaagh.

    bittersweet >:(

    Effing hell, if I knew they'd do this I would've waited on buying EP1 and just take this.


    ffff.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    They made no mention about changes to the Steam version, and that is almost the only way I ever buy games now, so I am not really worried <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

    Admitedly, for $10 more I am tempted to pick it up and give my GF HL2 and EP1 so that we game together more.
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1627703:date=May 19 2007, 06:49 AM:name=Tyrain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tyrain @ May 19 2007, 06:49 AM) [snapback]1627703[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Every game from valve can be downloaded through steam. Maybe they will even go so far as to make seperate downloads possible for each game (I really only want TF2 and maybe Portal).
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    Well they freaking better. I only want TF2 and Portal as well, and they better not be more than $10 each.
  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    I'm guessing that they're doing this to avoid unhappy buyers who would buy something with the words "Half Life 2" on it and wonder where HL2 is.

    For the people who already have HL2, Valve probably assumes(since you know, steam is required for HL2) that you know how to buy games over Steam and will do so.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    edited May 2007
    What if you're not ABLE to do so? Then tough luck, screw you.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1628021:date=May 20 2007, 11:53 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ May 20 2007, 11:53 AM) [snapback]1628021[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    What if you're not ABLE to do so? Then tough luck, screw you.
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    Guess you should open a bank account / get a job?
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    I'm one of the people who own HL2 (and Ep 1), have a card, can buy over steam, but still like to have a hard copy.

    It just looks cool on the shelf. Guess I won't be able to this time <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    edited May 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1628023:date=May 20 2007, 05:59 PM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ May 20 2007, 05:59 PM) [snapback]1628023[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Guess you should open a bank account / get a job?
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    Bah! I just want to game and eat cheetos. Osterejer.

    <!--quoteo(post=1628032:date=May 20 2007, 07:06 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ May 20 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]1628032[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I'm one of the people who own HL2 (and Ep 1), have a card, can buy over steam, but still like to have a hard copy.

    It just looks cool on the shelf. Guess I won't be able to this time <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
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    You could always print one out and put it on your shelf. That way you can prove your nerdiness AND buy online.
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    <!--quoteo(post=1628032:date=May 20 2007, 01:06 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ May 20 2007, 01:06 PM) [snapback]1628032[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I'm one of the people who own HL2 (and Ep 1), have a card, can buy over steam, but still like to have a hard copy.

    It just looks cool on the shelf. Guess I won't be able to this time <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
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    I'm the same way. I just like to have the boxes to show my gaming history. I'll still likely by the box in the store. This might actually be an interesting way to market the games though. Since many of the people buying the box will already have HL2 and HL2:Ep1, they'll have to give them to a friend. Then that friend will play through them and want to play the rest of the games, so they might buy the box and then have a copy of HL2 and HL2:Ep1 to give away and so on.
  • Mr_JeburtOMr_JeburtO Join Date: 2003-08-29 Member: 20340Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1628023:date=May 20 2007, 10:59 AM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ May 20 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]1628023[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Guess you should open a bank account / get a job?
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    what about the people who like the boxed version of games without having to own multiple copies
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1628049:date=May 20 2007, 10:56 AM:name=KungFuDiscoMonkey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KungFuDiscoMonkey @ May 20 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]1628049[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I'm the same way. I just like to have the boxes to show my gaming history. I'll still likely by the box in the store. This might actually be an interesting way to market the games though. Since many of the people buying the box will already have HL2 and HL2:Ep1, they'll have to give them to a friend. Then that friend will play through them and want to play the rest of the games, so they might buy the box and then have a copy of HL2 and HL2:Ep1 to give away and so on.
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    Until someone does the smart thing and just buys off of Steam.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1628079:date=May 20 2007, 03:33 PM:name=Mr_JeburtO)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mr_JeburtO @ May 20 2007, 03:33 PM) [snapback]1628079[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    what about the people who like the boxed version of games without having to own multiple copies
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    Psh, What is this? The year 2000? Boxes are so 7 and 1/4 years ago. Why don't you go watch re-runs of Full-house or something!
  • Mr_JeburtOMr_JeburtO Join Date: 2003-08-29 Member: 20340Members
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1628085:date=May 20 2007, 12:44 PM:name=Mr_JeburtO)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mr_JeburtO @ May 20 2007, 12:44 PM) [snapback]1628085[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    whats full-house?
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    ;/
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1628085:date=May 20 2007, 09:44 PM:name=Mr_JeburtO)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mr_JeburtO @ May 20 2007, 09:44 PM) [snapback]1628085[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    whats full-house?
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    The show where the olsen twins were like:

    <img src="http://www.beepworld.de/memberdateien/members76/john_stamosfull_house-girl/michelle-7-151-01.jpg" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />
  • KassingerKassinger Shades of grey Join Date: 2002-02-20 Member: 229Members, Constellation
    If you are not old enough for a credit card you perhaps shouldn't be playing all these games anyway. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />

    </tease>
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    HOLY COW THAT KID IS EVIL!!!

    overpriced cardboardboxes = overrated.
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