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MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
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So I have OS X 10.4.8 installed on my PC now. I have everything working except my onboard sound, so I may just buy a USB sound thing.

And before the mods freak out, my dad has a Mac running OS X, so no company is getting screwed here by OMG PIRACY.

Anyway, does anyone else have a macintel or hackintosh, any suggestions, or just comments in general?
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  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1616898:date=Mar 25 2007, 08:32 PM:name=Mantrid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mantrid @ Mar 25 2007, 08:32 PM) [snapback]1616898[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    comments in general?
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    you've created an abomination - such wretched and foul things belong only in the minds of madmen.

    What have you done.... save our souls.
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  • SloppyKissesSloppyKisses omgawd a furreh&#33; Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
    i have a comment


    mac sucks, please die.
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  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    I have a Macbook, and I like it. Between that and gentoo running on my desktop computer, I rarely use Windows anymore.
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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    Mantrid, that is awesome.

    How did you do the procedure?
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  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    edited March 2007
    Well, even though we have a copy of OS X, it was easier to go torrent the patched dvd image than hunt down all the seperate patches, which I suppose you could do with the appropriate files and ppf-o-matic3 (which you need for an additional patch not on the dvd).

    If you'd like, I can get a screenshot of the "About This Mac" for you.

    I'm bummed about the sound, since there are procedures to do it, and I don't want to have to buy an external sound card, but that really seems like the best solution, since patching all the .kext files doesn't seem to be working for god knows what reason.

    Anyway, the procedure is, get the dvd, apply the patches, insert, and boot up. I couldn't seem to format partitions on drives I'd already made, so I just used an external USB drive (since my mobo supports booting from USB), and I boot into it from Grub.

    Edit: An invaluable resource is the original <a href="http://www.osx86project.org/" target="_blank">OSx86 Wiki</a> and the newer <a href="http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php" target="_blank">Insanely Mac</a> forums.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Seems a little silly to me. What does OSX do for you that XP/Vista can't?
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  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    edited March 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1617052:date=Mar 26 2007, 11:08 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Mar 26 2007, 11:08 AM) [snapback]1617052[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Seems a little silly to me. What does OSX do for you that XP/Vista can't?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    run


    mage's windows box:
    <!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->C:\Documents and Settings\Black Mage>uptime
    \\RAZGRIZ has been up for: 12 day(s), 11 hour(s), 45 minute(s), 0 second(s)<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->mage's freebsd box:
    <!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->blackmage@ttyp1:~$ uptime
    6:17PM  up 157 days, 10:30, 7 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.03, 0.00<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Congratulations, your bsd box has been on longer than your Windows box. I'm assuming you're trying to imply that Windows is always crashing; to that I would say "better crashing on Windows than not running on Linux." Because frankly the only stuff that ever crashes on me are the sort of programs that only run on Windows anyways.
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    macs r 4 faqs lol
    windoze is 4 lamers lol
    linux is 4 n3rds lol
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  • SpaceJesusSpaceJesus Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29683Banned
    The only program that regularly crashes for me is Adobe After Effects (anyone thats used the app will know what im talking about) and more recently HL1 based games due to massive lagouts <333 my ISP.
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  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    edited March 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1617052:date=Mar 26 2007, 09:08 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Mar 26 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]1617052[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Seems a little silly to me. What does OSX do for you that XP/Vista can't?
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    Its not a matter of what it can or can't do. Its a matter of doing it.
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    What does OSX do differently then XP/Vista that makes it so much better?
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <img src="http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comics/006.gif" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />
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  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    I like all three OS's for different reasons.
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  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    edited March 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1617085:date=Mar 26 2007, 02:09 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Mar 26 2007, 02:09 PM) [snapback]1617085[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Congratulations, your bsd box has been on longer than your Windows box.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    *ahem*
    my bsd <b>server</b> has a better uptime rating than my windows <b>server</b>. uptime is important for some of us.
    on the topic of servers, i found an image of the only mac server in the world. <a href="http://img202.exs.cx/img202/9210/beerserversmall6ap.jpg" target="_blank">BEHOLD!</a>
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1617262:date=Mar 27 2007, 07:09 AM:name=Black_Mage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black_Mage @ Mar 27 2007, 07:09 AM) [snapback]1617262[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    *ahem*
    my bsd <b>server</b> has a better uptime rating than my windows <b>server</b>. uptime is important for some of us.
    on the topic of servers, i found an image of the only mac server in the world. <a href="http://img202.exs.cx/img202/9210/beerserversmall6ap.jpg" target="_blank">BEHOLD!</a>
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    K, well, a server is different than something you're using for gaming and stuff. I can see good reasons to skip Windows for a server, but not a ton for a personal computer.
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1617306:date=Mar 27 2007, 02:51 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Mar 27 2007, 02:51 PM) [snapback]1617306[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    K, well, a server is different than something you're using for gaming and stuff. I can see good reasons to skip Windows for a server, but not a ton for a personal computer.
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    Unless you don't care about having every game that comes out and use a computer for anything other than gaming.

    I loves me my Final Cut Pro.
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1617333:date=Mar 27 2007, 06:18 PM:name=Caboose)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Caboose @ Mar 27 2007, 06:18 PM) [snapback]1617333[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Unless you don't care about having every game that comes out and <b>use a computer for anything other than gaming.</b>

    I loves me my Final Cut Pro.
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    Wait.

    Wait wait wait

    Did you just say that Windows is only useful for a computer that only plays video games? Seriously? Are you living in some kind of Bizzaro world? Can you seriously find me a program that can't be run on Windows (and doesn't have an equivalent counterpart that does)? (Note: Server applications don't count, we all know Windows is behind in the server race).

    Do you want me to compile a list of non video game tasks that are almost exclusive to Windows?
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  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1617344:date=Mar 27 2007, 07:10 PM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Mar 27 2007, 07:10 PM) [snapback]1617344[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Do you want me to compile a list of non video game tasks that are almost exclusive to Windows?
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    i'd love to see this list
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    edited March 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1617346:date=Mar 27 2007, 07:13 PM:name=Black_Mage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black_Mage @ Mar 27 2007, 07:13 PM) [snapback]1617346[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    i'd love to see this list
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    All decent 3D modeling programs, and pretty much anything owned by Autodesk is all Windows only. That's an entire industry right there.

    I think Cinema4D has Mac support, buuuuut it's a piece of crap compared to Maya and Max
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  • antifreezeantifreeze The guy with the goods&#33; Join Date: 2003-05-12 Member: 16232Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1617262:date=Mar 27 2007, 03:09 PM:name=Black_Mage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black_Mage @ Mar 27 2007, 03:09 PM) [snapback]1617262[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    *ahem*
    my bsd <b>server</b> has a better uptime rating than my windows <b>server</b>. uptime is important for some of us.
    on the topic of servers, i found an image of the only mac server in the world. <a href="http://img202.exs.cx/img202/9210/beerserversmall6ap.jpg" target="_blank">BEHOLD!</a>
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    If your windows server is crashing every few weeks then you have set it up badly.

    As for the mac server that is the only sane use for mac hardware, trying to pass them off as computers is a travesty.
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  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    My Windows "server" is also pretty reliable. Server in this case means Windows 2000 running AMP. I'm sure if I had proper server OS it'd run even better.
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1617352:date=Mar 27 2007, 06:22 PM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Mar 27 2007, 06:22 PM) [snapback]1617352[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    All decent 3D modeling programs, and pretty much anything owned by Autodesk is all Windows only. That's an entire industry right there.

    I think Cinema4D has Mac support, buuuuut it's a piece of crap compared to Maya and Max
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    <a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=7639522" target="_blank">http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index...&id=7639522</a>
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The 32-bit version of Autodesk® Maya® 8.5 software is supported on any of these 32-bit operating systems.

    * Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional (SP2 or higher)
    * Red Hat® Enterprise Linux® 4.0 WS (U4)
    * SUSE™ Linux 10.1
    * Fedora™ Core 5
    * Apple® Mac OS® X 10.4.8

    The 64-bit version of Autodesk Maya 8.5 software is supported on any of these 64-bit operating systems.

    * Microsoft Windows XP x64 Edition (SP1 or higher)
    * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.0 WS (U4)
    * SUSE Linux 10.1<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    edited March 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1617357:date=Mar 27 2007, 07:27 PM:name=antifreeze)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(antifreeze @ Mar 27 2007, 07:27 PM) [snapback]1617357[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    If your windows server is crashing every few weeks then you have set it up badly.

    As for the mac server that is the only sane use for mac hardware, trying to pass them off as computers is a travesty.
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    no, i set it up just fine. windows update makes me restart almost every week for no real reason while it updates random crap and applies yet another "hotfix".

    also, cinema 4d is supported under *nix, maya runs under *nix and 3dsm sucks.
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1617366:date=Mar 27 2007, 07:52 PM:name=Black_Mage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black_Mage @ Mar 27 2007, 07:52 PM) [snapback]1617366[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    no, i set it up just fine. windows update makes me restart almost every week for no real reason while it updates random crap and applies yet another "hotfix".

    also, cinema 4d is supported under *nix, maya runs under *nix and 3dsm sucks.
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    Caboose: That still leaves Max and every version of AutoCAD, heck, even Softimage XSI is Windows only...

    Black_Mage: Yeah 3dMax sure sucks <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" /> that's why it's the most used one of them all.

    Before this gets dragged out even more; the point I was trying to make was that other then a few exceptions the 3D design/modelling industry is over-whelmingly Windows only.
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  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    maybe it's the most marketed?
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1617369:date=Mar 27 2007, 08:03 PM:name=Black_Mage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black_Mage @ Mar 27 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]1617369[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    maybe it's the most marketed?
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    Which means it's used by more people? Which means there is more user made content and info available online about it? Which means it becomes more versatile?

    Here, go browse some of the 3D art galleries on the net, go hit up 3dKingdom, and browse their art gallery. Pretty nice stuff right? Read the author comments, the majority are all Max + VRay.
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  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    HACKINTOSH UPDATE: I got sound working! I followed some guides on the Insanely Mac forum, and after editing stuff inside AppleHDA.kext, and using the few Unix commands I know (sudo, rm, mv, ls), a hex editor, and text editor a text editor, I have fully functioning sound (its even coming out of the right port).

    So, now I just need to make it recognize my other monitor.
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1617374:date=Mar 27 2007, 07:22 PM:name=Mantrid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mantrid @ Mar 27 2007, 07:22 PM) [snapback]1617374[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    So, now I just need to make it recognize my other monitor.
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    What's your video card? Most ATI and NVIDIA can get dual display with the Natit kexts.

    <a href="http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Natit" target="_blank">http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Natit</a>
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  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    <a href="http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4803" target="_blank">dreamworks seems to enjoy linux.</a> and the <a href="http://www.ballergoods.com/home/2007/3/12/300-creating-the-visual-effects.html" target="_blank">300 visual effects teams</a> enjoyed their mac and linux boxes/farms.

    every dedicated render server or dedicated graphics workstation i can find also runs a non-windows operating system (*nix variants including irix and solaris)
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