Data Recovery Program

KittamaruKittamaru Join Date: 2006-09-18 Member: 58017Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Urgent Help Needed</div>I need a Data Recovery program for a disk that has not only had the partition deleted but was reformated. When my PC refused to boot after putting my old IDE hard drive in my other PC, I told windows to try and fix it. That it did- by ###### reformatting the whole thing! I have tried a few free programs, but I don't know any good ones to use. Even if it's not free, i want to know about it.

It HAS to work for reformated NTFS drives. This only happened last night, so I don't think the data is completely gone- has to be overwritten a few dozen times for that doesn't it?

Please, if ANYONE can help me, lemme know. I need that data back urgently.

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  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    <a href="http://free-backup.info/data-recovery-software.htm" target="_blank">http://free-backup.info/data-recovery-software.htm</a>
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members
    Norton Disk Doctor = better than anything you can get for free.

    Ok, so it's not the fastest thing in the world, but it's pretty much the most accurate thing out there...
    Depending on the size of the drive, it can take between an hour, and about 5 days to finish.

    Just remember, you're NOT guaranteed to get intelligible data out afterwards, with ANY recovery program...
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    The way data writing works when data is "deleted" is thusly.

    When you "delete" a file, it remains on the drive. However, when you write new information on the drive, the blocks with that data are marked, so they will be overwritten. Windows allways occupies a similar placement in the hard drive - usually near the front. Reformatting will typically not delete your data totally if you do nothing with the computer afterwards because windows is written into a similar location. As long as you don't do somthing stupid (like install a few programs and then defrag) your data should be reasonably safe until you start putting new files on the computer.

    Smaller files have a much better chance of being retrived since there is less total data that could possibly deleted by a new file moving in.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    edited January 2007
    With a quick format, a disk-recovery program such as Norton Disk Doctor could work. With a full format, you're looking at something closer to a pro data recovery system.

    If the data's been overwritten, the only way to get it back is a forensics lab with a magnetometer or a data recovery specialist. The "I have to overwrite it X times before it's gone" myth comes from cypherkiddies who read about data recovery labs using quantum physics and high level statistics and other math-related things to recover bits of data from a wiped drive, it costs lots of money and time. Last I checked DOD standards for a clean wipe of a drive was a shred (format, overwrite with random bits) x 8 and then physical damage to the drive platters.
  • KittamaruKittamaru Join Date: 2006-09-18 Member: 58017Members
    It was a full reformat, that's the problem...

    though I have NOT installed any programs on there so far so I should be okay. Hell I didn't even let windows UPDATE.

    would Norton be sufficient here?
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    edited January 2007
    This is why we make backups of anything important. Never trust Microsoft to fix anything.
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--quoteo(post=1600288:date=Jan 19 2007, 10:22 PM:name=KungFuDiscoMonkey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Jan 19 2007, 10:22 PM) [snapback]1600288[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    This is why we make backups of anything important. Never trust Microsoft to fix anything.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ehh, exactly which OS would you recommend that preserves data perfectly after formatting? And sorry, but Windows did not format his drive - he did.

    The first thing to do here is stop making it worse by asking in this forum and making random changes! You are going to get a lot of chaff. If your data is critical, take it to a local PC repair shop that has professional data recovery services. If it's not worth paying a little to have an honest tech recover it for you, the data wasn't worth saving anyways.
  • KittamaruKittamaru Join Date: 2006-09-18 Member: 58017Members
    I don't have a local repair shop around here I trust... that's the thing.

    I hadn't intended it to format to be honest. Was supposed to be running a repair operation. Either I hit enter on the wrong option or it went screwy.

    I would have backups, except my DVD RW isn't working right and I didn't have the money for a new one yet. It works as a reader, but not a writer. Thought it was a driver issue, but everything I tried made no difference.
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members
    edited January 2007
    If you ran the repair option on XP, then it will delete the Windows installation, and not the whole drive. In which case, as long as the computer name, and user names are the same, then your data should be in the usual places. If you told it to use the partition, but delete everything on there, then you've wiped it...

    KFDM...
    <!--QuoteBegin-KungFuDiscoMonkey+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KungFuDiscoMonkey)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Never trust Microsoft to fix anything.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Never trust ANYONE who makes OSes to fix anything properly. I don't care how much money or time anyone pours into their stuff, an operating system will NOT recover your data with an automated program.

    MonsE...
    <!--QuoteBegin-MonsieurEvil+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MonsieurEvil)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And sorry, but Windows did not format his drive - he did. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh, the amount of times I've told people this when I worked as a computer engineer. People just don't want to accept that THEY made the error, and that the computer must have done it without their permission. etc... They just will not accept that a computer is inherantly stupid. The phrase goes "Garbage in, Garbage out", which I have NEVER had an end user realise. Sad fact to be perfectly honest <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />

    *edit*
    oops, my bad
    */edit*
  • LofungLofung Join Date: 2004-08-21 Member: 30757Members
    backup next time ftw
  • KittamaruKittamaru Join Date: 2006-09-18 Member: 58017Members
    edited January 2007
    *slaps the forums*

    Once again- I was UNABLE to backup because

    1) my DVD-RW was wworking ONLY as a ROM. Why I do not know, but I could burn neither CD or DVD.
    2) I only had one hard drive at the time. That is the reason i was going to set the other one up as a fileserver once the new one was running.
    3) I am not sure why it reformatted. I've never been offered the option to reformat thru the repair installation of windows before, though I never really looked for it. Even if I did make the mistake, moot point. I want to fix it. Now. I know it's possible, I just don't know how.

    and, patch, it's garbage in, garbage out.
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    I meant the repair windows option. If you have to repair windows, you might as well format and reinstall from scratch. And you don't have to backup to CD or another hard drive. Emailing yourself a file is also a backup.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    I have used R-Studio recovery dohicker to great, GREAT, effect. It's easy to use and bloody effective. I saved myself 500 bucks by using this program to recover one of my drives. I wasn't so lucky with the other one. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />

    --Scythe--
  • KittamaruKittamaru Join Date: 2006-09-18 Member: 58017Members
    KFDM, problem is, i can't rightly e-mail myself a couple hundred meg files (G-mails limit is, i believe, 10 megs in one file). I would have used an online backup, but I honestly didn't think it'd be necessary for something as relatively simple as moving my hard drive.


    Sytche, what is R-Studio and how much does it cost?
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    No repair shop eh? That's teh suck...

    Well, in that case the only inexpensive data recovery software I can recommend is <a href="http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm" target="_blank">http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm</a> - SpinRite. It's the only good thing ever to come out of Steve Gibson's company, but people swear by it.
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    <!--quoteo(post=1600431:date=Jan 20 2007, 04:04 PM:name=Kittamaru)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kittamaru @ Jan 20 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]1600431[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> KFDM, problem is, i can't rightly e-mail myself a couple hundred meg files (G-mails limit is, i believe, 10 megs in one file). I would have used an online backup, but I honestly didn't think it'd be necessary for something as relatively simple as moving my hard drive <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    But you can compress even some of the largest map files to less than 1mb and store them in your gmail account.
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