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Re: I am so very angry right now...
Sockpuppets are out in force I see.
Honestly, I had a lot more sympathy for Simon before I dug into the actual tweets in question. This isn't a one-time thing that people are blowing up about; it's a long-running pattern of behavior. Given that he basically said he wouldn't play nice with new hires, UWE's decision to let him go is completely understandable.
He said he'd treat them just like anybody else.
Re: So... Subnautica is launching what's next?
they'll probably work on Subnautica expansion, honestly, if you guys haven't tried it yet, try it, it's a very good game imo.
Re: I am so very angry right now...
Ah the dangers of only having the outsider view, while drawing conclusions as if we were at the meeting \o/
Re: I am so very angry right now...
A persons political views should in no way negatively impact their financial security. I am beyond appalled at the SJW crybullies who perpetrated this lynching, and am absolutely disgusted with these Devs for capitulating to the demands of a core group of bitter, self-righteous, unpleasable individuals. Whatever damage the Devs thought keeping the sound designer on would have caused pales in comparison to the damage they've just done to their brand and this game. You don't throw one of your own under the bus for tweets a snobbish , childish, Leftist minority things is "problematic" or "politically incorrect", no. You stand by them and maintain that their views at the end of the day has no bearing on the game itself.
What makes me even angrier is that the very same people that came after the sound designer consistently insist on injecting their politics into games, and shout you down if you disagree with them. However, they're allowed to preach their ideologies without fear of being fire while directly selling their ideology to their consumers. A sound designer who's political views literally had no impact on the game itself however gets fired for random tweets? I'm utterly enraged, and I can promise you that events like this will have the complete opposite political effect that the SJWs responsible for it want. People are getting "redpilled" from this, and will continue going further to the right everything SJWs overreact like this. Trump is going to get re-elected in 2020 thanks to things like this, so I really hope the SJWs cheering for this horrible decision have their fun while it lasts.
The political winds or shifting, this type of madness will no longer be tolerated in time.
What makes me even angrier is that the very same people that came after the sound designer consistently insist on injecting their politics into games, and shout you down if you disagree with them. However, they're allowed to preach their ideologies without fear of being fire while directly selling their ideology to their consumers. A sound designer who's political views literally had no impact on the game itself however gets fired for random tweets? I'm utterly enraged, and I can promise you that events like this will have the complete opposite political effect that the SJWs responsible for it want. People are getting "redpilled" from this, and will continue going further to the right everything SJWs overreact like this. Trump is going to get re-elected in 2020 thanks to things like this, so I really hope the SJWs cheering for this horrible decision have their fun while it lasts.
The political winds or shifting, this type of madness will no longer be tolerated in time.
Re: I am so very angry right now...
SuperElement wrote: »Such as it is, though the lack of an official statement from UWE does present the situation in which people have to draw their own conclusions. People's opinions will probably change again based on such when it does occur, but so far the public view of what's occurred is not doing them any favours.
Technically, we did get an official statement in that Kotaku article:
Game director Charlie Cleveland confirmed that Chylinski is no longer with developer Unknown Worlds, telling Kotaku, “Over the weekend we discovered that one of our team members had made many hateful statements online that are against our company values. After discussing the matter with him, we decided to stop working with him immediately.”
Re: I am so very angry right now...
DrownedOut wrote: »One doesn't have to. The moment one defends saying colonialism is a good thing, that includes a defense of saying genocide is a good thing. Same for racialized IQ stuff and eugenics. And a whole lot of other things. Pretending to not do so is dishonest, whether intentional or not.
An individual may be punished for their expressed opinion as long as the punishment is between private entities and within proportion. That is not censorship and so much as comparing it with censorship is fundamentally not understanding what censorship is. Or, for that matter, freedom of speech. Methinks that not wanting to be a team with someone who twice+ expresses that they do not value humans that aren't like them is not something you can call questionable.
It's nice to know that because I've stated my support for Simon's right to express his opinion, my opinion is worth nothing because I sympathise with someone who you allege supports "colonialism" (i.e. the root of all evil), the fact of which bringing up such is totally not a red herring in the topic of censorship. While freedom of speech is relevant to censorship, I would beg an explanation for how it invalidates my claim that attacking a person's economic situation (i.e. providing a legal penalty) is aliken to (not literally, but effectively) censorship.
The road to Reductio ad Hiterlum is a fast and rocky one, folks.
Re: I am so very angry right now...
I read the tweets, i'm shocked so little can get a person fired. Especially by outraged people that probably don't know Subnautica, will never play Subnautica and at the end don't give a shit about it.
Whoever did the firing has no backbone whatsoever.
Whoever did the firing has no backbone whatsoever.
Re: Plz bring back fade vertical to horizontal speed conversion on blink
RevanCorana wrote: »"Mechanic" = unintentional and abusable bug that was being exploited by lots of people.
Bunnyhop was a bug too
Quick recap since you seem a bit slow on the pedal: just about everything at comp level will fit that style of definition.
BUG, EXPLOIT all the negative words you can think of (not much) wont make your point stronger.
In fact, it was a really beautiful mechanic that made fade all its aerial movement flavor so only a super retarded, blind, ignorant or lazy (or any combination of those) devs could ever think to erase that from the game.
(or maybe some kind of code nazzi trying to eradicate bugs regardless their effects are good or bad like yourself seem so evangelical about just because)HITTING a speed and MAINTAINING a speed are two different things, HITTING 25 was easy and back when the bug you're referring to was still present, I was able to (with celerity) relatively easily traverse almost any map maintaining high speed. It wasn't difficult, It wasn't a skill ceiling increase, it wasn't interesting, it was a hidden and exploitable bug.
More lies, reiterating your lies enough times wont make them truths. It's kinda funny how determined you are on this because you're wrong but either way it's totally irrelevant.
Even if that was true could just reduce the speed conversion ratio to make it less preominent.
Similar to bhop in CS1.6 vs CS:GO
There was no reason to gut it completely except when cast under the light of their admitted objective to lower the skill ceiling at any cost.
Bunnyhop was a bug, yes, and it was embraced by the masses, but if you haven't noticed, games progressed, and that BUG got REMOVED. Other than the occasional arena shooter like Reflex most games now don't have bunny hop.
Its also very funny that you think i'm lying about fade movement being able to hit 25 with relative ease. It tells me that you're a bad fade, because as much as you choose to disbelieve me, I did it, pretty easily... Here's a video, some of the things discussed are now outdated, but its still very worth a watch.
www.qolabs.com/partners/rant1.flv
This was Rantology teaching my old team (about 2 - 3 years ago) how to fade well, The information starts at about 12 1/2 minutes in. One of the first things she explained was the old movement bug, which lead to me practising that one thing for a very long time.
Whether you choose to believe me or not is irrelevant, The movement bug was a hidden mechanic and didn't actually make fading more fun (opinion), it being gone makes more sense, Having hidden mechanics without explanation in game doesn't make sense. Also, it didn't increase the skill ceiling of the fade, the fade is arguably more difficult now, making you require more skill to play a fade well, combat aside, attaining high speed now is much more difficult as a fade, and maintaining that high speed is also more difficult, it requires much more game awareness and map knowledge to be as effective as possible.
The reason you want the bug back is so that you can exploit it to play as a fade better... Just practice and get better at fade, don't cry that your exploit is gone.
Re: I am so very angry right now...
DrownedOut wrote: »SuperElement wrote: »DrownedOut wrote: »The fact that not being allowed to a-okay genocide (because that's what happened during colonialism, among others in the Americas, Australia, and India) and eugenics (any of that racialized IQ nonsense) without consequence is considered censorship around here is... disheartening to say the least.
Not to mention I'm pretty sure censorship is only about government stuff, not what businesses do.
Nobody has mentioned genocide or eugenics in this thread, and as the only person who has previously mentioned censorship in this thread, I can definitely define the context for it as being fired as consequences for an expressed opinion. Specifically, I am likening the punishment of an individual for their expressed opinion- to censorship. If you have an issue with my comparison, please attack that specifically.
One doesn't have to. The moment one defends saying colonialism is a good thing, that includes a defense of saying genocide is a good thing. Same for racialized IQ stuff and eugenics. And a whole lot of other things. Pretending to not do so is dishonest, whether intentional or not.
An individual may be punished for their expressed opinion as long as the punishment is between private entities and within proportion. That is not censorship and so much as comparing it with censorship is fundamentally not understanding what censorship is. Or, for that matter, freedom of speech. Methinks that not wanting to be a team with someone who twice+ expresses that they do not value humans that aren't like them is not something you can call questionable.
Not only are you okay with censoring what the former dev had to say, you are putting words into his mouth and opinions into his brain that he never expressed. Nobody said anything about eugenics or genocide except you.
Re: I am so very angry right now...
TurquoiseKnight wrote: »@Kouji_San
Yeah, its a shame. And now this has grown into the female player model debacle. Charlie should take a hint from other companies and just duck and cover, wait for this to blow over before announcing measures to placate the whiny few.
At this point in time, I would even be satisfied if the male player model gets a head.