Steam (not A Bashing Thread)

ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">I'm drawing attention, nothing more.</div> Hi all,

I've found there's a few users with problems with ALL HL based games and ATi cards. I'm not sure when it started, but it means quite low framerates for the spec of your system (since going to ATi, I get 20fps or lower in Marine Spawns)

So, I'm drawing attention to two things.

One, the problem itself.

Two, two threads on steampowered that if you are also having problems, you may wish to have a look at.

<a href='http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69623' target='_blank'>http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthr...&threadid=69623</a>

^ - This one is by me, hoping to get a response from VALVe. They've noticibly viewed the thread, but not replied. Not a good sign, in my opinion.

<a href='http://steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40325' target='_blank'>http://steampowered.com/forums/showthread....&threadid=40325</a>

^ - And this is the original thread. 85 pages by & large of random '1337' speak and flaming. But the original problem is in there.

It's off topic to general NS, but does affect a large number of users (hell, the 2nd thread is now 85 pages long!) so thoughts, opinions are welcomed.

PLEASE don't turn this into a 'OMG VALVe SUx0r0s!' thread, because I'm trying to approach VALVe with a sensible, reasonable approach, in the hope of a similar response.

Regards,

Shockwave

Comments

  • PykmiPykmi Join Date: 2003-04-14 Member: 15473Members
    Hmmm... This bug doesn't seem to apply to the 3.7.6 linux drivers. I get a pretty steady 80fps at all times with my Radeon 9800...
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Pykmi - I think that's exactly the odd bit. It doesn't affect all Radeon users, and some have managed to resolve it through driver changes.

    I'm more trying to give some impression of the fact I am trying to approach VALVe reasonably, and basically being ignored. Not a good combination in my opinion. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Very good Shockwave. While I use GeForce, I hope that you guys get the support you deserve. Just keep pressing proffessionally, and hopefully you'll get it.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I would like to commend Shockwave for his correct choice of "affect" rather than "effect." GG! ^^
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    That could be because I took A Level English Language & Literature simultaneously coilster. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    It becomes second nature, and is also why I find posting in the Steam forums something akin to wading through sewage.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    edited March 2004
    that guy suggesting everyone e-mail Valve -- I don't think he was suggesting spam, I think he had a point in that e-mails to the support department from MANY people having the same problem might get their attention better than a few people talking civilly in a thread... and you'll probably get SOME kind of answer in your mailbox if you mail them, which is more than you seem to be getting in the forum...

    also, are you adverse to reverting your drivers like ATI says to do, or did reverting your drivers not help? personally I think it'd be a worthwhile tradeoff...

    I get good framerates with my 9600 pro though... latest drivers, I think... oh no, that's right, I'm using the omega drivers (http://www.omegacorner.com/)
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Mar 26 2004, 06:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Mar 26 2004, 06:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hope that you guys get the support you deserve. Just keep pressing proffessionally, and hopefully you'll get it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ^^
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    24 hours passed, no response.

    Surely someone will at least reply to avoid the publicity? Or am I right in what I'm beginning to feel, that they basically hope if they batton down long enough, I'll go away?
  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    And here I thought it was just me and KaMiKaZe. I'll definately look into it - I've had HL issues on two out of three ATI powered systems I've used (one of them so insanely beefy that it absolutely blows my mind that HL will not run well, especially considering that it can run <i>anything</i> else at maximum <i>everything</i> with absurdly high FPS).
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    36 and clocking. Not pleased at all.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I doubt they'll send anything. And remember to check your spambox.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Ah, but I'm deeply amusing myself by ensuring it stays up near the top. Malicious bumping can be fun for you too kids, just don't annoy Nem 0 with it. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shockwave+Mar 26 2004, 11:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Mar 26 2004, 11:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That could be because I took A Level English Language & Literature simultaneously coilster. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    It becomes second nature, and is also why I find posting in the Steam forums something akin to wading through sewage. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't know much about your problem, but I salute your fine lingual calibre. Now, if only we could somehow replicate and then inject your genes into the forum masses that wouldn't know of grammar even if it defecated on their face.
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Mar 28 2004, 10:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Mar 28 2004, 10:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't know much about your problem, but I salute your fine lingual calibre. Now, if only we could somehow replicate and then inject your genes into the forum masses that wouldn't know of grammar even if it defecated on their face.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Remember love, there's a difference between having a flair* for writing and deliberately convoluting your language.

    *<img src='http://www.derok.net/derek3/images/classics/wwf%20ric%20flair.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Mar 28 2004, 06:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Mar 28 2004, 06:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Mar 28 2004, 10:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Mar 28 2004, 10:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't know much about your problem, but I salute your fine lingual calibre. Now, if only we could somehow replicate and then inject your genes into the forum masses that wouldn't know of grammar even if it defecated on their face.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Remember love, there's a difference between having a flair* for writing and deliberately convoluting your language.

    *<img src='http://www.derok.net/derek3/images/classics/wwf%20ric%20flair.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Smoke 'em if ya got 'em, baby.
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