Red justice mapper uses ns textures (?)

NiM_StudiosNiM_Studios Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1115Members
By coincedence I landed on PlanetHalfLife seeing the Picture of the Day. The POD contained a screenshot from Red Justice. When I looked at it, I saw something familiar... well, see for yourself...

<img src="http://www.nimstudios.org/images/nstexture.jpg" border="0">

Red Justice website:
<a href="http://www.planethalflife.com/redjustice/" target="_blank">http://www.planethalflife.com/redjustice/</a>

Comments

  • humbabahumbaba That Exciting Tales From the Frontline Guy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 86Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    While I dont KNOW, some textures used in NS may have been drawn from a public set. If not . .well . . y'know. But, thats my explanation. <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    <span style='color:red'>** Nuked **</span>



    <!--EDIT|MonsieurEvil|Oct. 24 2002,10:32-->
  • NiM_StudiosNiM_Studios Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1115Members
    Humbaba: yeah, but that one looks ALOT like it
    Asraniel: they're not, atleast, the FAQ says you can't <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
  • WoggyWoggy Join Date: 2002-10-09 Member: 1466Members
    <span style='color:red'>** Nuked **</span>

    OH anyway I think it was just used as temperory playtesting, so it doesnt matter. The news post says they were testing a new mode called Assault.



    <!--EDIT|MonsieurEvil|Oct. 24 2002,10:32-->
  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin--humbaba+Oct. 24 2002,07:28--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (humbaba @ Oct. 24 2002,07:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->While I dont KNOW, some textures used in NS may have been drawn from a public set. If not . .well . . y'know. But, thats my explanation. <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    All of the textures in the NS Wad (including the one shown in this screenshot) are unique, and were not taken from or based off of any textures in any public set.  The only exceptions were a few textures Relic used, by permission, on bast, from a site called Shaderlab, which somehow ended up being included in the NS wad.  

    The NS textures are not allowed to be used for any non NS related materials without written permission from us.  

    As far as I know this Red Justice mod has recieved no such permission.
  • DarknessDarkness Join Date: 2002-05-05 Member: 583Members
    give them hell i dont like anyone trying to steal from this mod whatever it should be <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    I'm sure someones on it, but just to be sure, e-mail them either anonymously as just some fanboy (Where didja get that cool building texture?) or as one of the devs, and see if it really is an NS texture.
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    <span style='color:red'>** Nuked **</span>



    <!--EDIT|MonsieurEvil|Oct. 24 2002,10:28-->
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    They were emailed. Tahnks for the head's up.

    This does not give carte blanc to bash the mod though. Keep it friendly. They may have simply not realized the mistake...
  • NiM_StudiosNiM_Studios Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1115Members
    It wasn't my intention to let everybody know so they could trash the mod, I just thought I'd let you guys know since I read in the FAQ it's not permitted to use NS textures in any other mod.

    I'm glad it's settled.
  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    The issue has been resolved.  The textures had just been donated by some mapper, so the Red Justice people didn't realize they were from NS.  They were very proffessional about the whole situation, and quite apologetic, and will deal with the problem ASAP.

    And please, like Mons E said, play nice and don't start trashing their mod.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jeb_Radec+Oct. 24 2002,07:44--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Jeb_Radec @ Oct. 24 2002,07:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->wow the mods are getting *nuke* happy.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice try. Everyone is getting flame happy. These mods are quality mods; they know when to nuke.
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    i never bashed this mad, i just said that i dont like the map and nothing more, thats just what i think, i cannot understand why you edited my post Mr.E, i think i have to redo my sig
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    In the context of the topic, it was too inflamatory, Asraniel.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Squeal Like A Pig+Oct. 24 2002,10:35--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Squeal Like A Pig @ Oct. 24 2002,10:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->The issue has been resolved.  The textures had just been donated by some mapper, so the Red Justice people didn't realize they were from NS.  They were very proffessional about the whole situation, and quite apologetic, and will deal with the problem ASAP.

    And please, like Mons E said, play nice and don't start trashing their mod.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Glad to hear. Usually that's the case with most mod teams, its simply an honest mistake. They usually aren't out to blatently steal someone else's work. Kudos to them for realizing and correcting the error, and kudos to the NS team for being professional about the matter.

    I remember when some other mod thought we stole their sound effects for FLF (we didn't, in fact none on our team had even played their mod), but rather than being curteous I got a lot of IRC and email bashing, not to mention crap flying on forums. And reversly, there was a time when some mod took AHL's models but then refused to stop using them. The devs of AHL had to threaten legal action against them (which is a valid option btw).

    But this situation is a good example of The Right Way of doing things. ;)
  • SanchoSancho Join Date: 2002-03-30 Member: 365Members
    Wow, I just went to their site.  Did they cut off their downloads because of this.  If they did, that's pretty cool of them.
  • alius42alius42 Join Date: 2002-07-23 Member: 987Members
    Why are you still ripping on them? It doesn't really help anything and it makes the community look immature and stupid, as well as yourself. Not something I would expect from an active member.
  • Spyder_MonkeySpyder_Monkey Vampire-Ninja-Monkey Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 8Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I"m not exactly sure why people became aflame over this, nor do I care to know...
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