<div class="IPBDescription">The bullet kind this time.</div>Does Natural Selection have individual shells for different weapons? Does it have shells at all? If so any pictures of them?
A: Pretty sure they have shells, cuz I heard at one point that the shells make a sound when they hit the ground (clink-like) so therefore there MUST be shells. B: I duno, but I'd bet that a shotgun shell is diff than a pistol... C: Don't think there are screenies of it but I'm sure if you looked hard enuf you could find one. *wow I edited this 6 times in 10 minutes.*
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<!--QuoteBegin--Asraniel+Oct. 22 2002,04:54--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Asraniel @ Oct. 22 2002,04:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->no, also the knife..... *G* no, from what i know the LMG and the HMG has also shells, and the GL could also have shells... who knows....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> dont the LMG/HMG just use normal bullets?
maybe caseless but those rn't shells <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
We have sea shells, shiney shells, tiny shells, big shells, pretty shells, shells to use as a form of currency, pokemon shells, digimon shells. You name it, we have it...
AFAIK the LMG and HMG use caseless ammunition, so no shell casings there. The shotgun probably uses normal shotgun shells, so you will probably see a shell casing. The pistol also uses caseless ammo, AFAIK.
I'd say STC, but most things aren't at this point.
<!--QuoteBegin--Eos+Oct. 22 2002,09:13--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Eos @ Oct. 22 2002,09:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->What a gun fires is a bullet Necro, and to get rid of an excess round it pops it out usually on the side, that is called at <b>Shell Casing</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> There is a such thing as caseless ammunition.
<!--QuoteBegin--Radiocage+Oct. 22 2002,15:53--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Radiocage @ Oct. 22 2002,15:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Eos+Oct. 22 2002,09:13--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Eos @ Oct. 22 2002,09:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->What a gun fires is a bullet Necro, and to get rid of an excess round it pops it out usually on the side, that is called at <b>Shell Casing</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> There is a such thing as caseless ammunition.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href="http://world.guns.ru/assault/as42-e.htm" target="_blank">Yes, like you said. Here's some proof.</a>
Yeah, caseless ammunition can't be fed from horizontal clip... also, if it was caseless, the Rate of Fire would be VERY slow. Around 6 rounds per second.
"Shell" is usually describing the casing of a round on a normal gun. The whole thing is usually called a "round"... well, that's what I call it. The casing is either called brass, casing, or shells. Despite how much you play Doom, shells aren't only found in Shotguns. But they are called Shotgun Shells, because technically, there's no real "bullet" in a shot shell. I call the casing "brass", personally.
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First and foremost caseless rounds can be fed from any direction, in fact th first major caseles rifle, the H&K G11, fed horizonally. On another note whoever said caseless weapons fire slower than cased rounds got it exactly backwards. One of the advantages of caseless rounds is that they fire much faster than cased ammo. They can do this because the firing mechanism is much simpler because the shell extraction is removed. They can also fire for longer periods because the propelant burns much cooler than gunpowder. I think some people are thinking about the ancient style of caseless rounds such as the ones fired by muskets and the like. If the HMG is belt fed than it is unlikely that it is caseless, because all caseless machineguns thus far are box fed. Any other misconceptions I need to clear up?
fastest gun around is caseless (it's a 36 barrel mount capable of excess of 1 million bpm) check out the videos www.metalstorm.com the CG concept videos are cool but the life fire tests are the best
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MonsE a United States Marine? Very nice, I am one as well or at least I will be, I don't ship off for a year. I signed up on my 17th birdthday so that after boot camp I get an instant rank up. I am probably going career. It has been a long time since I was "entirely correct". I forgot how good it feels. <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
On the subject of marines, while I find most to be good people, I knew one incredible idiot who's one dream was to become a marine. Please, tell me the boot camp removed/will remove his power hungry nature to try to usurp authority from those above him. Like he tried and failed from me, but man was he ever a pain in my side. (and I only say he was an incredible idiot because he was quite literaly an idiot)
They will break him. The Marine Corps does not want individauls. My only beef with my beloved corps is our continued use of that damned M-16 rifle. It is an outdated rebuilt piece of crap and needs to be replaced.
<!--QuoteBegin--Snake13+Oct. 22 2002,17:51--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Snake13 @ Oct. 22 2002,17:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->b) the HMG is belt fed<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have a nifty-cool movie of the HMG being reloaded, and it appears to be drum-fed from the top.
Hmm...
-Ryan!
"But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little, and who talk too much." -- John Dryden
If it is drum then it could very well be caseless, although for being caseless the drum would not need to be very large at all. For example in the G-11 Light Machinegun the ammo box is smaller and much lighter than that of the M-249 SAW(100 round box mag) but carries 3 times as many rounds(300). So therefore a 150 round drum magazine needn't be very large. But then again who cares? This is NS not FA, I need to stop going off on weapon rants.
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Technically, I believe it's a dual clip (one for each barrel of the gun); each clip is half of the upside-down U that is replaced when you reload. *shrug* for what that's worth. Either way, it's nifty. (:
I think, though, that it ejects "brass"... I can't remember off-hand, though.
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B: I duno, but I'd bet that a shotgun shell is diff than a pistol...
C: Don't think there are screenies of it but I'm sure if you looked hard enuf you could find one.
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no, from what i know the LMG and the HMG has also shells, and the GL could also have shells... who knows....
no, from what i know the LMG and the HMG has also shells, and the GL could also have shells... who knows....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
dont the LMG/HMG just use normal bullets?
maybe caseless but those rn't shells <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
I'd say STC, but most things aren't at this point.
Good answers, in my oppinion, without having to bother the devs/pts. Let's do this more often, say Flay&Co the time.
There is a such thing as caseless ammunition.
There is a such thing as caseless ammunition.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href="http://world.guns.ru/assault/as42-e.htm" target="_blank">Yes, like you said. Here's some proof.</a>
Yeah, caseless ammunition can't be fed from horizontal clip... also, if it was caseless, the Rate of Fire would be VERY slow. Around 6 rounds per second.
"Shell" is usually describing the casing of a round on a normal gun. The whole thing is usually called a "round"... well, that's what I call it. The casing is either called brass, casing, or shells. Despite how much you play Doom, shells aren't only found in Shotguns. But they are called Shotgun Shells, because technically, there's no real "bullet" in a shot shell. I call the casing "brass", personally.
Carry on.
(and I only say he was an incredible idiot because he was quite literaly an idiot)
I have a nifty-cool movie of the HMG being reloaded, and it appears to be drum-fed from the top.
Hmm...
-Ryan!
"But far more numerous was the herd of such,
Who think too little, and who talk too much."
-- John Dryden
I think, though, that it ejects "brass"... I can't remember off-hand, though.