Korn Bites Back At The Fcc
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<div class="IPBDescription">about ****in time!</div> <a href='http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=20402' target='_blank'>AVE IT </a>
"It?s probably the most inspirational, the most spectacular understanding of what?s going on in this country right now," raved Stern. "I believe that young people ? I?m talking about people 18, 16, 20 ? are freaking out right now because of what is going on with the religious right. They are angry. They are angry about the corporations running the music business. They are angry with the radio business. They are angry. And this Korn video, if you can get your hands on it, is the best music video I have ever seen."
if howard stern likes it. its goood
"It?s probably the most inspirational, the most spectacular understanding of what?s going on in this country right now," raved Stern. "I believe that young people ? I?m talking about people 18, 16, 20 ? are freaking out right now because of what is going on with the religious right. They are angry. They are angry about the corporations running the music business. They are angry with the radio business. They are angry. And this Korn video, if you can get your hands on it, is the best music video I have ever seen."
if howard stern likes it. its goood
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Agreed
Nonetheless, this is definitely a video I'll be supporting. Korn may suck as hard and as much as they want - I'm just happy that they've FINALLY realized what corporate nu-metal tools they are <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Yah real good message. This is called forced image, hip hop artists do it all the time, they sing about being rich and living the highlife even if they don't have 10 thousand dollars of their own money. The more you can make yourself out to be a rebel in the rock world the more records you will sell.
I'll pretend I didn't see Korn compared to RATM in this thread and move on.
howard stern is totally right wing except when it comes to the FCC, which actually affects his profession... he kisses Bush's butt but now is complaining because colin powell's son has been picked to lead the FCC, heralding a new era of censorship in media :-/ which is no good, but I wish the people who speak up against it didn't do so only because it's in their own financial interests <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Seriously, if it's such a <b>terrible</b> business that offers <b>no</b> profit and <b>no</b> growth, <b>leave the business.</b>
As for the music video...it's right, I doubt MTV or any similar channel will put it on air anytime soon. And at least it admits that it, too, falls into the category of single, saying "steal this video"
Anyway, I'd like to hear some more-intelligent, less-knee-jerk reactions to the video itself... what do you guys think?
Anyway, I'd like to hear some more-intelligent, less-knee-jerk reactions to the video itself... what do you guys think? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
yes.. this is my point...
all y ou guys are doing is whining how its korn so it doesnt matter etc..
look past the performers at the message!
The message doesn't matter if they don't mean it, really.
I would have to agree, and besides hating the RIAA and the music industry is whats "in" these days
FIGHT THE POWER!
*rebels against music sharers as to conform to non conformity*
"can you guys give us a single please?"
"sure, how about this one?"
"y'all wanna single so s*ck it s*ck it!"
Seriously, if it's such a <b>terrible</b> business that offers <b>no</b> profit and <b>no</b> growth, <b>leave the business.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The idealist inside me says that music is not about money, but rather ideas and creativity. The rest of me thinks my inner idealist is half sad, half hilariously funny.
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Lots of independent artists slag the RIAA all the time. It's refreshing to see someone on the gravy train actually protest, whether or not it seems hypocritical.
We're all hoping for free music with artists that care about giving good quality music, but no one actually expects that. You wouldn't work for free as a doctor, something more important than music, so why do you expect artists to give you free music?
Corporations and publicity and "conforming" ( "selling out?" ) are the only ways for bands to survive and to actually make money.
I'm not saying I want the labels to work for free or not be **** about intellectual property rights violations. What I do want is something that all markets need to survive--competition.
The music industry has ultimately come down to the same problem Wal-Mart created. Only big labels can provide a competitive edge, a large profit margin, and the ability to move product (just like Wal-Mart can). So by providing volume pricing, massive monetary contracts, and still being able to have the supplier make a profit, the suppliers are happy (in this case artists...with Wal-Mart, it's companies like John Deere, Matel, Hasbro, and other big name manufacturers) and therefore take the contracts. The situation goes on, and Wal-Marts demands keep going up for product, and therefore the discounts keep getting bigger from the supplier. Eventually Wal-Mart can buy the product from a supplier, mark it up, and STILL sell it for less than it takes smaller companies to simply buy it from the supplier. So now smaller retailers without the purchasing power of Wal-Mart go out of business. Think small independent record labels who can't negotiate with artists for big contracts and CD manufacturers for volume prices. That seems like natural selection at work in a market economy until the final step--when the suppliers can't afford to NOT do business with the giant labels, retail chains, etc. Because they've got such massive accounts with the retailers, if they drop the accounts, their revenues plummet them into bankruptcy. So then you have suppliers going out of business if they put up a fight. To survive as a company--especially a publically traded or affected commodity (ie, a singer's fanbase)--you CAN'T afford to cut your strings with accounts those size if you want to be able to make any sort of money.
Ultimately, what happens when you have corporate giants with the purchasing power they do, you not only force others out of the market, reducing competition, but you end up rearranging the supply/demand curves where the suppliers are now dependent upon those who initially held the demand--eliminating the freedom of suppliers to provide to a variety of market demanders.
Nonetheless, this is definitely a video I'll be supporting. Korn may suck as hard and as much as they want - I'm just happy that they've FINALLY realized what corporate nu-metal tools they are <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Very much so. Except I have to agree with Dr. D's response more.
*rebels against music sharers as to conform to non conformity* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
too l8 man u have conformed to answering this post like the rest of us <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Korn do tell the truth! being their #1 fan they are biting back nicely! U can forget about all that other pish they call music korn tell it how it is... who cares about what lables and record deals at the end of the day i mean take robbi williams for instance WHAT A LOAD OF PISH he signed an 8 million record deal. Since he has released a <i>FEW</i> songs wow! amazing freaking incredible if u tell me! he just sponges off the money and gets fat, i mean if u gunna do it right make some god dam decent music!
Y'ALL WANT A SINGLE SAY **** THAT, **** THAT ****
*rebels against music sharers as to conform to non conformity* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
too l8 man u have conformed to answering this post like the rest of us <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Korn do tell the truth! being their #1 fan they are biting back nicely! U can forget about all that other pish they call music korn tell it how it is... who cares about what lables and record deals at the end of the day i mean take robbi williams for instance WHAT A LOAD OF PISH he signed an 8 million record deal. Since he has released a <i>FEW</i> songs wow! amazing freaking incredible if u tell me! he just sponges off the money and gets fat, i mean if u gunna do it right make some god dam decent music!
Y'ALL WANT A SINGLE SAY **** THAT, **** THAT **** <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think I feel sorry for you :-\
Since you went out to state your opinion about KoRn, I'll go out to state mine.
They aren't anything great. I won't say they suck, because they at least write their own music. But so many bands have done so much better. Are you telling me they are better than Led Zeppelin was? Or explain to me how they are more talented than Jerry Cantrell is.
Also, please, your english doesn't need to be perfect. Heck, mine isn't very good at all when it comes to grammar, but please, try to write more coherently. Thanks.