I Miss Bast.

explodingheadboyexplodingheadboy Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15636Members, Constellation
edited March 2004 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">BRING IT BACK!!!!</div> <spam>
I want ns_bast back. Best map ever. Anyone heard anything good about it?
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  • sawcesawce Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10787Members
    It's being remade. Check the mapping forum.
  • No-LifeNo-Life Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14597Members
    It is being remade, check the mapping forum!









    No-Life
  • explodingheadboyexplodingheadboy Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15636Members, Constellation
    It's being remade!? I'll check the mapping forum!!!
  • Norml_E_HighNorml_E_High Join Date: 2003-03-30 Member: 15055Members
    Cool, lets hope it doesn't have terrible R-speeds like the new nancy.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    It's being fixed too, unlike nancy <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    I hope your spamming no sense topic get fixed too.
  • uberbrokeuberbroke Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2438Members
    I'm a noob at map making.... So.....

    What's an r_speed? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • StoatBringerStoatBringer Join Date: 2003-06-09 Member: 17144Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What's an r_speed?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's how fast your "R"s travel over teh intarnet. Like when you hit reload. If the r_speed is too low, you'll only reload very slowly. But the R has to be slower than movement keys like W/S/A/D (w_speed, s_speed etc) otherwise you could reload faster than you could walk, which would mess up the game. This is what is meant by balance issues - Flayra spends millions of dollars a year getting an internet connection that balances the speed of the letters correctly. All hail Flayra!!!1
  • explodingheadboyexplodingheadboy Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15636Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-StoatBringer+Mar 3 2004, 05:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StoatBringer @ Mar 3 2004, 05:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What's an r_speed?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's how fast your "R"s travel over teh intarnet. Like when you hit reload. If the r_speed is too low, you'll only reload very slowly. But the R has to be slower than movement keys like W/S/A/D (w_speed, s_speed etc) otherwise you could reload faster than you could walk, which would mess up the game. This is what is meant by balance issues - Flayra spends millions of dollars a year getting an internet connection that balances the speed of the letters correctly. All hail Flayra!!!1 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OMGz u r t3h dumbz0r!
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-explodingheadboy+Mar 3 2004, 11:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (explodingheadboy @ Mar 3 2004, 11:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-StoatBringer+Mar 3 2004, 05:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StoatBringer @ Mar 3 2004, 05:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What's an r_speed?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's how fast your "R"s travel over teh intarnet. Like when you hit reload. If the r_speed is too low, you'll only reload very slowly. But the R has to be slower than movement keys like W/S/A/D (w_speed, s_speed etc) otherwise you could reload faster than you could walk, which would mess up the game. This is what is meant by balance issues - Flayra spends millions of dollars a year getting an internet connection that balances the speed of the letters correctly. All hail Flayra!!!1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OMGz u r t3h dumbz0r! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just continue like this and I can ensure that you'll get banned.
    It happend to the others.
  • txnhockeytxnhockey Join Date: 2004-01-06 Member: 25104Members
    i jus read this and im jus curious what theyre doing wrong
    ive jus never seen a instance where ppl are banned
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    Bleh, here's hoping that ns_bast stays out. It was the ns_lost of the original maps.
  • gophergopher Join Date: 2003-08-01 Member: 18657Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Mar 4 2004, 12:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Mar 4 2004, 12:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Bleh, here's hoping that ns_bast stays out. It was the ns_lost of the original maps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You're the first person I've met so far, that didn't like ns_bast.
  • NaxoNaxo Join Date: 2003-04-10 Member: 15385Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-gopher+Mar 4 2004, 01:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (gopher @ Mar 4 2004, 01:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You're the first person I've met so far, that didn't like ns_bast. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, there are plenty of people who'd kill to see bast burning in hell.
    Hard to explain why, but I don't like it. The marine-start is *errr*, it's mostly unbalanced as marine unless you reloc, the map in itself is making servers suffer endless pain while the CPU is crying and the pings are climbing himalaya.
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    Bast was emptiing most public servers in 2.x showing a mayority dislike and refilling them quickly when the map was voted to Eclipse.

    Its like voting dust, happened many times.
  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    edited March 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Naxo+Mar 4 2004, 01:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Naxo @ Mar 4 2004, 01:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hard to explain why, but I don't like it. The marine-start is *errr*, it's mostly unbalanced as marine unless you reloc, the map in itself is making servers suffer endless pain while the CPU is crying and the pings are climbing himalaya. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1.- The remake is trying to make it FUN and BALANCED (both for public and clan play), and that's why we want everyone to give their oppinions on what should be changed.

    2.- The CPU-killing is because of the number of entities (500+), it can't be official again if we don't optimize the number of map-entities. The new limit is 275.
  • metalhead89metalhead89 Join Date: 2004-01-24 Member: 25670Members
    Bast kicked ****, I don't know why all you keep complaining about it, even though it was unbalanced, half the fun came from the marine base anyways.
  • explodingheadboyexplodingheadboy Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15636Members, Constellation
    Yeah, bast was the ****, thats why I cry out for it in my sleep.

    Anywho, why the hell would I get banned for mocking a troll?
  • HybridclawHybridclaw Join Date: 2003-11-03 Member: 22271Members
    bast was fun but it favored marines too much, and wasn't onos friendly
  • Vahn_PaktuVahn_Paktu Join Date: 2002-10-28 Member: 1666Members, Constellation
    btw I think bast is still "in". changelevel ns_bast I think will take you to it.
    r_speeds are mainly how much computer resources are being used. high r_speeds low fps.
  • BOBDololBOBDolol Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21431Members
    I hated bast but it would be great if the remake team makes bast fun/balanced to play
  • 7Bistromath7Bistromath Join Date: 2003-12-04 Member: 23928Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Naxo+Mar 3 2004, 06:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Naxo @ Mar 3 2004, 06:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-gopher+Mar 4 2004, 01:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (gopher @ Mar 4 2004, 01:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You're the first person I've met so far, that didn't like ns_bast. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, there are plenty of people who'd kill to see bast burning in hell.
    Hard to explain why, but I don't like it. The marine-start is *errr*, it's mostly unbalanced as marine unless you reloc, the map in itself is making servers suffer endless pain while the CPU is crying and the pings are climbing himalaya. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Don't forget that it manages to cause all this pain in a *tiny* little map.
  • 7Bistromath7Bistromath Join Date: 2003-12-04 Member: 23928Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Hybridclaw+Mar 3 2004, 07:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hybridclaw @ Mar 3 2004, 07:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> bast was fun but it favored marines too much, and wasn't onos friendly <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Bast pro-marine? Now I've heard EVERY damn thing. That must be some prime crack you're smoking.
  • uberbrokeuberbroke Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2438Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Vahn_Paktu+Mar 3 2004, 04:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vahn_Paktu @ Mar 3 2004, 04:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> r_speeds are mainly how much computer resources are being used. high r_speeds low fps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thanks.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    bast was terrible... would be nice to see it completely remade and balanced properly.
  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Mar 4 2004, 03:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Mar 4 2004, 03:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> bast was terrible... would be nice to see it completely remade and balanced properly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, but we'd have to balance it. Also, fix a few annoying things. Probably shouldn't name it bast because it wont be bast.

    In other words just make a new freakin map instead of trying to copy and old one. The only reason anyone cries for these maps is because they were taken away. I bet half of the people "missing" it would have avoided a server running it in the past.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> tut tut, (s)he didnt chreck the mapping forums
  • CypherCypher Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14579Members
    edited March 2004
    Yeah in 2.0 I couldnt find a single person that really liked the map...

    All the entrances to MS weren't normal...And that damn vent...*shivers*

    edit: so many people posted before I got this done...oh well.
  • inkblotinkblot Join Date: 2004-01-05 Member: 25077Members
    I wasn't a bast fan. It was ok, but I certainly didn't look for a server running bast when choosing a server. I don't miss bast at all. I like ayumi and agora more than I did bast.
  • Rotten_FleshRotten_Flesh Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9203Members
    Would the previous ns_bast work in 3.0 ?
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