28 Days

P-KhanP-Khan Join Date: 2003-05-27 Member: 16776Members
<div class="IPBDescription">*SPOILER*</div> I was watching this movie some nights ago at my friend's place. Problem is, I had to go right in the middle of the film, and I never got to know what happened.

So, could someone plz tell me WTH happens? I mean, everything from where I left. Probably won't get to see this film for some time,

I got up to the part where the soldiers saved Jim and the group from the father of the girl, who just got infected with rage.

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  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    edited March 2004
    The soldiers take them back to a stately mansion they've 'acquired'. Initially, they make them feel at home, with things being pretty uneventful thanks to the safety provided by strong defenses. However, the soldiers' real agenda is to, basically, have sex with the women, as they're starved of such activities and slowly going insane. Our 3 champions learn of this, but before they can do anything, Jim is captured and led away by 2 soldiers to be executed in a nearby forest. In the forest, which the soliders have used as a dumping zone for corpses (suggesting that possibly they've killed many uninfected people before Jim and his group), Jim gets the better of the grunts, killing them and running back to the mansion in the hope of saving the woman and the girl. Jim frees a rage victim that the soldiers had imprisoned in a yard, a sort of experiment to see how long they can last without food. Straving and enraged, the rage victim storms through the house causing chaos, killing and infected most of the soldiers. A game of cat-and-mouse ensues, with Jim finding the ladies and them escaping in one of the soldier's vehicles.
    The film then fades out, and opens on a different part of England, in the rural hillside. The rage victims are shown to be dying; their food sources are all spent. From a far-away view, helicopters are heard and then you can see Jim, the woman and the girl waving for the rescue chopper.
    With that, our protagonists are saved, but England is left devastated. Sniff.
  • KarriNKarriN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6617Members
    edited March 2004
    IIRC it's not actually a helicopter but an F-18 or something? With the pilot radioing for a rescue team. The pilot speaks Finnish, btw. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    Which reminds me of how the whale catchers in Star Trek IV were speaking Finnish also. Never heard of Finnish whale catchers, though. Go figure.

    Oh, and just to be the littly annoying **** that I sometimes am, <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo--> the name of the movie is 28 Days Later. 28 Days is some comedy or something with Sandra Bullock and Aragorn.
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    I did not understand the movie at all. It was not scary, except for those surprises kind of scary, where the monsters bursted out. And even then it was still expected, because the camera would zoom in really fast, as if in the monster's point of view.


    I didn't get it <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • KillymageeKillymagee Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3136Members
    I love Zombie movies, its a shame there aren't that many made. But there is a new one comming out, well actually it a remake of the original "Dawn of the Dead" supposed to come out 03/19. I'd provide a link to the site but for some reason it aint workin.


    More zombie action! yea! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • KarriNKarriN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6617Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-pjofsky+Mar 1 2004, 11:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pjofsky @ Mar 1 2004, 11:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I didn't get it <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    maybe the point was that in the end, the worse enemy wasn't the zombies but the people who were supposed to save your ****.
  • LokeTheSleekPeruvianLokeTheSleekPeruvian Join Date: 2003-08-21 Member: 20054Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Killymagee+Mar 1 2004, 07:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Killymagee @ Mar 1 2004, 07:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I love Zombie movies, its a shame there aren't that many made. But there is a new one comming out, well actually it a remake of the original "Dawn of the Dead" supposed to come out 03/19. I'd provide a link to the site but for some reason it aint workin.


    More zombie action! yea! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    edited March 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Killymagee+Mar 1 2004, 07:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Killymagee @ Mar 1 2004, 07:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I love Zombie movies, its a shame there aren't that many made.  But there is a new one comming out, well actually it a remake of the original "Dawn of the Dead" supposed to come out 03/19.  I'd provide a link to the site but for some reason it aint workin.


    More zombie action! yea!  <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's gonna suck! The origional director of the film disowned it, the zombies can actually RUN, and the whole thing has been changed around. Zombie movies recently have been taking themselves waaaaay to seriously, they are tryng to hard to be high quality. What makes zombie movies so good, such cult classics are not their amazing story lines, or their special affects, it's their cheesyness, their ability to be absolutely HORRIBLE as films but still watchable for their entertainment value. I absolutely LOVE the movies of Romero and zombie movies as a whole, but this new DOTD is going to be a disgrace. 28 days later had an excuse because it wasn't technically a zombie movie, and it was actually good.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Mar 1 2004, 07:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Mar 1 2004, 07:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's gonna suck! The origional director of the film disowned it, the zombies can actually RUN, and the whole thing has been changed around. Zombie movies recently have been taking themselves waaaaay to seriously, they are tryng to hard to be high quality. What makes zombie movies so good, such cult classics are not their amazing story lines, or their special affects, it's their cheesyness, their ability to be absolutely HORRIBLE as films but still watchable for their entertainment value. I absolutely LOVE the movies of Romero and zombie movies as a whole, but this new DOTD is going to be a disgrace. 28 days later had an excuse because it wasn't technically a zombie movie, and it was actually good. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Exactly, Zombies don't run and don't try and change it. You're not clever if you try it. It was good in REmake because they weren't so abundant and it's a scare at first.
  • HybridclawHybridclaw Join Date: 2003-11-03 Member: 22271Members
    what is the alternate ending to the move?
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Mar 1 2004, 09:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Mar 1 2004, 09:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Killymagee+Mar 1 2004, 07:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Killymagee @ Mar 1 2004, 07:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I love Zombie movies, its a shame there aren't that many made.  But there is a new one comming out, well actually it a remake of the original "Dawn of the Dead" supposed to come out 03/19.  I'd provide a link to the site but for some reason it aint workin.


    More zombie action! yea!  <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's gonna suck! The origional director of the film disowned it, the zombies can actually RUN, and the whole thing has been changed around. Zombie movies recently have been taking themselves waaaaay to seriously, they are tryng to hard to be high quality. What makes zombie movies so good, such cult classics are not their amazing story lines, or their special affects, it's their cheesyness, their ability to be absolutely HORRIBLE as films but still watchable for their entertainment value. I absolutely LOVE the movies of Romero and zombie movies as a whole, but this new DOTD is going to be a disgrace. 28 days later had an excuse because it wasn't technically a zombie movie, and it was actually good. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I challenge that. The zombie movie dosnt have to be cheesy, its just all weve ever seen. 28 days later dosnt really count. Ever see original Night of The Living Dead? Only reason its cheesy now is because of the poor effects. That is a zombie movie. I want hordes of rotting, mindless zombies, their only advantage agaisnt the military is thier numbers.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Mar 1 2004, 09:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Mar 1 2004, 09:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Exactly, Zombies don't run and don't try and change it. You're not clever if you try it. It was good in REmake because they weren't so abundant and it's a scare at first. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well some zombies can run. The Return Of The Living Dead zombies could run, and they were still cool, but they had other stuff goin for em. Like being made of tar, and actually eating brains.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> challenge that. The zombie movie dosnt have to be cheesy, its just all weve ever seen. 28 days later dosnt really count. Ever see original Night of The Living Dead? Only reason its cheesy now is because of the poor effects. That is a zombie movie. I want hordes of rotting, mindless zombies, their only advantage agaisnt the military is thier numbers.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Have YOU ever seen it? It is not cheesy JUST because of it's budget. It was meant to be that way, it's part of Romero's style. That's like saying the evil Evil Dead series was only cheesy because of the low budget. And if you want a movie like that, why don't you go watch DAWN OF THE DEAD?!?!?!?!?!
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    The Dawn of the Dead remake looks like it could be interesting, but I do see some problems from what is shown in the trailers.

    One, the zombies run. It's not even a fast walk - it's a dead run. I think that spoils the image of the rotting zombie.

    Two, the final battle appears to be in a closed shopping mall. As much as I want to like the movie, I don't want it all to happen inside a building!

    Three - the tagline is something along the lines of "What the bowels of Hell are filled, the dead will walk the earth" - why then is the little girl a zombie in the trailer? How exactly does one just "become" a zombie? I thought you had to die or be injected with something, not just wake up.

    Hopefully, the movie will rule, because I've been hoping for a good zombie movie, something that would make up for the saddening long-awaited Resident Evil.
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Mar 1 2004, 10:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Mar 1 2004, 10:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Mar 1 2004, 09:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Mar 1 2004, 09:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Exactly, Zombies don't run and don't try and change it. You're not clever if you try it. It was good in REmake because they weren't so abundant and it's a scare at first. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well some zombies can run. The Return Of The Living Dead zombies could run, and they were still cool, but they had other stuff goin for em. Like being made of tar, and actually eating brains.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> challenge that. The zombie movie dosnt have to be cheesy, its just all weve ever seen. 28 days later dosnt really count. Ever see original Night of The Living Dead? Only reason its cheesy now is because of the poor effects. That is a zombie movie. I want hordes of rotting, mindless zombies, their only advantage agaisnt the military is thier numbers.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Have YOU ever seen it? It is not cheesy JUST because of it's budget. It was meant to be that way, it's part of Romero's style. That's like saying the evil Evil Dead series was only cheesy because of the low budget. And if you want a movie like that, why don't you go watch DAWN OF THE DEAD?!?!?!?!?! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ok Ok, capital letters scare me, simmer down. Do me a favor and don't compare Evil Dead to NOTLD. Personally i didnt think it was cheesy, on the cheese scale (1 being the least, 10 being the most) i'd give it a four.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    edited March 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Two, the final battle appears to be in a closed shopping mall. As much as I want to like the movie, I don't want it all to happen inside a building!

    Three - the tagline is something along the lines of "What the bowels of Hell are filled, the dead will walk the earth" - why then is the little girl a zombie in the trailer? How exactly does one just "become" a zombie? I thought you had to die or be injected with something, not just wake up.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The fact that it's in a mall is the point, the origional was not set ENTIRELY in a mall, but most of it was. This was so there could be an extra element besides "Point the gun and shoot the zombie" and to provide a modern consumer societal backdrop to a post-zombie future.

    the tagline "When there's no room left in hell, the dead will walk the earth" is an absolute classic line of the zombie genre. In most classic zombie movies, you must become a zombie by either 1)being dead and being resurected by some unexplained force such as a magical summoning, cosmic radiation, or a chemical of some sort 2)been present at the site of some massive chemical/radioactive accident (although this is more common in Italian zombie movies) or 3)be bitten by a zombie and survive. The little girl must have been bitten by a zombie that did not completely ingest her, or else they have changed this movie more than I thought!

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ok Ok, capital letters scare me, simmer down. Do me a favor and don't compare Evil Dead to NOTLD. Personally i didnt think it was cheesy, on the cheese scale (1 being the least, 10 being the most) i'd give it a four.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well then I'd have to say you completely missed the point of the series. The Evil Dead series (excluding the first, which was absoultely amazing) was purposefully made extremely cheesy in an effort to be comedic (and succeeded if you ask me). the Romero movies are made extremely cheesy for comedy, syle, and to give them a "cult" feel.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Not exactly a follower of zombie movies, are we?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I imagine this being said with a lisp, disgruntled expression, and slightly slipping coke bottle glasses for some reason.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The fact that it's in a mall is the point, the origional was not set ENTIRELY in a mall, but most of it was. This was so there could be an extra element besides "Point the gun and shoot the zombie" and to provide a modern consumer societal backdrop to a post-zombie future.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This made me laugh, getting all philosophical about zombie movies! My point was that it could be really boring being inside a building throughout the entire movie!

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the tagline "When there's no room left in hell, the dead will walk the earth" is an absolute classic line of the zombie genre.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Sigh... you're missing my point. I wasn't dissing the tagline - don't get your zombie feathers all ruffled!

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In most classic zombie movies, you must become a zombie by either 1)being dead and being resurected by some unexplained force such as a magical summoning, cosmic radiation, or a chemical of some sort 2)been present at the site of some massive chemical/radioactive accident (although this is more common in Italian zombie movies) or 3)be bitten by a zombie and survive. The little girl must have been bitten by a zombie that did not completely ingest her, or else they have changed this movie more than I thought!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeeaaah... that's my point. The trailer shows a girl walking up to her parents at dawn and eating away at the father. If her parents put her to bed the night before, and she stayed in bed the entire time, how did she become a zombie?!
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Mar 1 2004, 10:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Mar 1 2004, 10:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Not exactly a follower of zombie movies, are we?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I imagine this being said with a lisp, disgruntled expression, and slightly slipping coke bottle glasses for some reason. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Haha yes I know, I am a complete geek!

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This made me laugh, getting all philosophical about zombie movies! My point was that it could be really boring being inside a building throughout the entire movie!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well Romero likes to make his movies multi-layered, so the philosophy isn't THAT much of a stretch, although it is kindof an afterthought. And don't worry, it's not boring. They're inside yes, but there are still plenty of zombies in there for them to shoot or otherwise get rid of.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sigh... you're missing my point. I wasn't dissing the tagline - don't get your zombie feathers all ruffled!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry, I just love that line. It is one of several absolutely CLASSIC lines fromthat movie which I am hoping they left out of this movie so they don't get ruined for me.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yeeaaah... that's my point. The trailer shows a girl walking up to her parents at dawn and eating away at the father. If her parents put her to bed the night before, and she stayed in bed the entire time, how did she become a zombie?!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well I was trying to say that you're right, there should not be a way that that girl became a zombie, unless she was bitten, which does not look very likely. It is a plot hole already on the movie, and it hasn't even come out yet.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Mar 1 2004, 11:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Mar 1 2004, 11:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sorry, I just love that line. It is one of several absolutely CLASSIC lines fromthat movie which I am hoping they left out of this movie so they don't get ruined for me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's in the new Dawn of the Dead trailer, available from the official website.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    wEll I know that line is in there, I eamtn that there are others that were just part of the dialogue that were just great lines, and I hope they don't get ruined.
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
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