An interesting observation

NecroNecro <insert non-birthday-related title here> Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
<div class="IPBDescription">About clan recruiting.</div>i'm going to use dod as an example, so if u hate dod...run <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

anyways, in dod players are taken into a clan by weapon, but in ns it wont work like that.  First, the player will most likely be tested for team (alien, marine, both) then for class/weapon (lmg,shotgun,hmg,gren launcher,skulk, lerk, gorge, onos, fade, commander) but i think that for most of the time the player would have to be good with MULTIPLE classes/weapons because the clan cant expect the person to be bad until he has enough rp's for an onos, so the person would have to be good at say a gorge and onos for example.

What do all you people think about clan recruiting?

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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    Recruit friends to have fun. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

    Easy <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
  • RadiocageRadiocage Join Date: 2002-09-30 Member: 1381Members
    I'm not sure. You forget Tournament mode (most clan matches I bet) is much more strict than Casual mode. It'd be hard to test a persons ability under anything other than Tournament mode. I think a player should be judged on how they play as a Marine or Alien overall, not just on a certain weapon or class, since those won't always be available.
  • XHydraliskXHydralisk Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 945Members
    which ever alien has the highest kill score gets invitations
  • Mr_Radical_EdMr_Radical_Ed Join Date: 2002-09-05 Member: 1285Members
    Yeah thats an interesting point. I expect NS clans looking for new members expect to see good sportsmanship and teamwork abilities and not just skills with a weapon or technique.
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    i should have clarified better, i meant most SERIOUS clans (aka best of the best), they'll look for specific class/weapons because if everyone knows their job very well then nothing can go wrong...of course teamwork is essential!
  • Mr_Radical_EdMr_Radical_Ed Join Date: 2002-09-05 Member: 1285Members
    Well I understand what you meant. In DoD you have no choice to choose by weapon, because each class is based on the key weapon, unless you count the para servers avalable, but for NS since the core of each race, marines and aliens, aren't based on specific key weapons, and more on players taking up a role and working as a team. So I expect to see some NS clans looking for players that have good teamwork sense and knowledge with the game.
  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    The only way would be a practice match in a private server...

    But well, without playing...
  • CrouchingHamsterCrouchingHamster Join Date: 2002-08-17 Member: 1181Members
    Well, I'm in my current clan because they are all decent mature ( well, age, anyway...) blokes with a sense of humour, we all have more serious commitments in the real world and realise games are just a bit of a laugh..... if an NS offshoot is formed I imagine the recruitment criteria will be the same..

    Who cares if you are "leet" if you are a muppet and no-one enjoys playing with you..?

    Games are/ should be for fun..you want "leet competition", get out of your house, go to the Olympics or Ultimate Fighting or something...
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CrouchingHamster,HiddenElvis+Oct. 18 2002,15:54--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (CrouchingHamster,HiddenElvis @ Oct. 18 2002,15:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Who cares if you are "leet" if you are a muppet and no-one enjoys playing with you..?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Don't whack the muppets man. And I always saw clans as a way of taking the group of people you like playing with most, then organizing them.
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    imho clan games are ALWAYS the most fun to play because of the team work. the better the clan the more fun (you don't loose as much <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->)
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Yeah, teamwork is another advantage of a clan. But the biggest thing is the general "feel". You can get the same amount of teamwork out of pubbie servers, but it "feels" more "teamy" when yer in a clan.
  • MessenjahMessenjah Join Date: 2002-10-04 Member: 1428Members
    I dont think they will base recuitment on weapons.  That would be like if CS recruited by guns... it just doesnt happen because in CS guns are decided by how much money(rp in NS' case) is available, and preferance.

    NS will probly be based mostly off teamwork, willingness to sacrifice self, and attitude in general (and of course, skill).
  • ZeroSaberZeroSaber Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1537Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mendasp+Oct. 18 2002,18:41--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Mendasp @ Oct. 18 2002,18:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Recruit friends to have fun. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

    Easy <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Aye  <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
  • BattousaixBattousaix Join Date: 2002-06-25 Member: 822Members
    Recruit friends.........
    Ppl can always earn more expirience and get better at the game with practice, but ppl can´t change their personallity that much....
  • standard1standard1 Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1408Members
    speaking of clans and matches ...
    (i asked this in some other thread, but the thread disapeared somehow)
    i wonder how clan games will be played, as each team (marine/aliens) are very different from the playing style.
    will it be like in cs, where for each map you play one round as alien, next round as marine?
    if matches are played like that, you will need to have good allround players, or even 2 teams for one clan. if not, will there be marines/aliens only clans?
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--.standard+Oct. 19 2002,10:36--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (.standard @ Oct. 19 2002,10:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->speaking of clans and matches ...
    (i asked this in some other thread, but the thread disapeared somehow)
    i wonder how clan games will be played, as each team (marine/aliens) are very different from the playing style.
    will it be like in cs, where for each map you play one round as alien, next round as marine?
    if matches are played like that, you will need to have good allround players, or even 2 teams for one clan. if not, will there be marines/aliens only clans?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i think it works like in dod in n.america so

    1 map 30min rounds (this would change) and 1st half 1 team is marine, then switch.

    OR you could do 2 maps, 30 min rounds, but that might lengten a bit but :o
  • CMEastCMEast Join Date: 2002-05-19 Member: 632Members
    Fairly sure you swop between marine and alien.

    I agree that you cant let anyone into a clan if they arent friendly etc, that doesnt mean you should recruit the first person you meet that tells a good joke and appreciates yours.
    I should think people will specialise to a certain extent, I can imagine people saying "Im a good all rounder but excel with a shottie" and then in a clan match the commander will give you a shottie and only put you in your most useful places.

    I should also think people will have fave classes too, "Im best at lerk" people will go distract and kill enemy patrols, faders will defend locations and group assault enemy bases, gorges will... gorge really <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> You get the idea.

    Skill _DOES_ matter in a clan match, if your clan keeps losing they will split up unless you are really really friendly (i.e have slumber parties and give each other makeovers <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> in which case youll stop competing and just play friendlies).
  • SmokeMastaSmokeMasta Join Date: 2002-04-13 Member: 430Members
    in a clanbattle both clans must play both races at least once. if the first battle last very long it is possible to postpone the match until date X
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CMEast+Oct. 19 2002,16:06--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (CMEast @ Oct. 19 2002,16:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Fairly sure you swop between marine and alien.

    I agree that you cant let anyone into a clan if they arent friendly etc, that doesnt mean you should recruit the first person you meet that tells a good joke and appreciates yours.
    I should think people will specialise to a certain extent, I can imagine people saying "Im a good all rounder but excel with a shottie" and then in a clan match the commander will give you a shottie and only put you in your most useful places.

    I should also think people will have fave classes too, "Im best at lerk" people will go distract and kill enemy patrols, faders will defend locations and group assault enemy bases, gorges will... gorge really <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> You get the idea.

    Skill _DOES_ matter in a clan match, if your clan keeps losing they will split up unless you are really really friendly (i.e have slumber parties and give each other makeovers <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> in which case youll stop competing and just play friendlies).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thats EXACTLY what im talking about!

    i mean clans will want ppl who are good with specific classes/weapons so that as a whole they (hopefully) will have no or little weakness!
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SmokeMasta+Oct. 19 2002,16:18--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (SmokeMasta @ Oct. 19 2002,16:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->in a clanbattle both clans must play both races at least once. if the first battle last very long it is possible to postpone the match until date X<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    matches aren't delayed. i think since the avg match is 1 hr so, either no timelimit or 1 hr timelimit per round.

    so in total the clan match would be 2 hrs (1 hr each side), you can't use the default 15/30minute rounds because in a game like ns u need time.
  • PeregineDivePeregineDive Join Date: 2002-07-15 Member: 951Members
    Well put CMEast! definetly agree with you on all points

           -PD
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