Learning New Maps

coris · February 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">The 3.0 maps..</div> Ok, so the 3.0 beta has been out for quite a while, and there are 3 new ns_ maps: agora, ayumi and metal. My problem is that i learn maps extremly slow, and if you don't know the map as a skulk, you are pretty much screwed. -_-

Has anyone got any tips that works for them when it comes to learning new maps?

Ahnteis · February 2004

Use the in-game minimap. If you have to, extract the sprites and print them.

That_Annoying_Kid · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ahnteis @ Feb 25 2004, 10:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Use the in-game minimap. If you have to, extract the sprites and print them.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
^^

thats exactly what to do

also you can always get a game going with some buddies and learn the maps together... I would say fire up a LAN game and run around the maps until you know them but I'm not sure if you can LAN with steam without undue problems

zxahn · February 2004

If you wanna lan you dont need to use steam jus copy the entire nsp folder from steam to whereever you have the actual game of halflife installed and it works perfectly.

ssjyoda · February 2004

many people that have switched over to steam got rid of their halflife install.
I forget, but there are settings in the server.cfg to get a lan game goin.

Trent_Hawkins · February 2004

I still get lost in ns_lost <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> , no joke. I've been known to run in circles around paranoia and (the room with the res node surrounded by the pit).

Phifth_Element · February 2004

A while back somebody did some cool minimap replacements. They had the names of locations right on the graphic so you could instantly see where someone was and have a location to give. Maybe someone could do that again for the new maps/new versions.

DiscoZombie · February 2004

<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=60560' target='_blank'>*cough*</a> hehe <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Mintman · February 2004

I don't learn them very quickly either, I start off by running round and navigating by the minimap. Just play them as often as I can. I've got the hang of metal now and I've got the general gist of the others. Just keep playing, you'll get it eventually.

PowerslavE · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ssjyoda @ Feb 25 2004, 11:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> many people that have switched over to steam got rid of their halflife install.
I forget, but there are settings in the server.cfg to get a lan game goin.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
You can but the problem is (as seen in another thread) right now, steam has zero support for LAN games. In fact, it won't even start up without an internet connection (as it feels the need to download updates overrides LANin'. Soon though, you will be able to do that.

ZERG · February 2004

+showmap

Insomnia · February 2004

Comming lets u learn maps faster than anything. Skulking lets u learn the vents

Last · February 2004

I've got metal and ayumi down so so... but agora has to be the most complex and worst layout I've seen in a while. It's been removed from a lot of servers, and I doubt it'll be in league play, so I haven't bothered.

coris · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Last. @ Feb 26 2004, 07:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I've got metal and ayumi down so so... but agora has to be the most complex and worst layout I've seen in a while. It's been removed from a lot of servers, and I doubt it'll be in league play, so I haven't bothered.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
All European servers seem to run agora :o

ThinG · February 2004

A <a href='http://www.ntfm.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=676' target='_blank'>thread</a> made by me which contains urls to both custom mini map packs.

I did not make either of the two, just providing links to them in one thread.

It contains a screenie so you can see what it looks like <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

BigMadSteve · February 2004

What I do to learn maps quickly is go a skulk and find the routes from hive to hive (the minimap makes this easy). After that I join a server that is playing the map and build up from there. And I have to agree, Agora is very complex but I *almost* know it now. I know all the other maps except Metal and Ayumi like the back of my hand.

TOmekki · February 2004

Yup, agora is pretty hard to learn... especially the middle area, i still usually take accidentally some sort of detour :/

metal and ayumi i know pretty well by heart. well, almost at least. ayumi is harder.

all the other maps i can draw on a paper with my eyes shut. (no i'm not gonna prove that <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /> )

coris · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Feb 26 2004, 04:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Yup, agora is pretty hard to learn... especially the middle area, i still usually take accidentally some sort of detour :/

metal and ayumi i know pretty well by heart. well, almost at least. ayumi is harder.

all the other maps i can draw on a paper with my eyes shut. (no i'm not gonna prove that <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /> )  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Please prove it! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

IBT · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Feb 25 2004, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=60560' target='_blank'>*cough*</a> hehe <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
hab damnit you!
beat me to it...

g0opy · February 2004

I think I´ll never learn agora >_<, but I play ayumi oftem. Therefore I know it =)

Jezpuh · February 2004

That's wierd, because agore is one of the maps that don't take so long to learn.

coris · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Feb 26 2004, 07:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> That's wierd, because agore is one of the maps that don't take so long to learn.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I bet you have spent hours on a listenserver just to learn it. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' />

Soylent_green · February 2004

I find that "noclipping" around the map helps.

(sv_cheats 1
developer 1
map "map_name"
noclip)

Must be done in that order on steam, with or without other console commands in between.

JazzX · February 2004

For use when not in-game <a href='http://dl.branzone.com/overviews' target='_blank'>these</a> might be helpful. No clue how long my bandwidth will hold up, I'm hoping to get them on ReadyRoom.org (if you are reading this Comprox **HINT**HINT**) at some point.

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