Dll Client?

GRANNYGRANNY Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26695Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Mine differs from the server</div> Sorry if this topic was discussed somewhere else, but there are so many posts in the tech support, I'm not sure which to read.
I am new to NS and have downloaded everything, however, each time I enter a server, I get disconnected with a message saying that my Dll client (I think that's what it's called) differs from the servers.
Can anyone help me?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Thanks & have a great day..
And, yes...I'm the "original" GRANNY from the old Half Life days, and still play
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  • PhinPhin Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22556Members, Constellation
    edited February 2004
    That means the server you're trying to connect to has a different version installed. Are you sure you have the most up-to-date files? The latest build is 3.0 beta 3, which can be downloaded from ns.org's homepage.
    If you are up to date then you're probably trying to connect to a 2.01 server.

    <b>Edit</b>: Or, if you're using WON, make sure you aren't trying to connect to a 1.04 server.
  • GRANNYGRANNY Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26695Members
    edited February 2004
    OK thank you so much. Can you put the ns site's addy here for me? I'm not sure where to go to get the latest dl. Thanks!

    Lord help me...are you talking about "this" particular site? See? Let's blame this on my age and being a grandmom and all....

    If you dare to get to know me, you will find out all too fast, that I always need step by step detailed instructions. If you're brave and patient,,,,you may continue to "try" to help me here.
    Thanks again.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited February 2004
    are you actualy a grandmother? (note, this is not to be offensive, people just have a tendancy to not be compleatly truthful over the net about there identities)

    if so, I admit to finding this amusing (there hapens to be a thread over in OffTopic about our parents and computers, especialy if they game)

    Ok, here is the deal:

    Download page is off of the ns.org website (just remove everything starting with forums from the address bar and thats the main page)

    From there you can get a good step by step instalation guide, but here are the basics:

    If you want to play NS 3.0 Beta (this is the newest public release, and I think is the best atm):
    1) Download and Install Steam.
    2) Play Hlaf Life through Steam once (just boot up the Training mission through steam, you have to do this for it to work properly)
    3) Download and install NS 3.0 Beta 1 (there is a large list of links on the download pagE)
    4) Download and install NS 3.0 Beta 3 (again links on download page) Make sure you point the installer at:
    ....\steam\steamApps\yourEmail\Half-Life\
    5) Find a 3.0 server and start fragging <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    If you have any problems with ayn steps just tell us exactly what is not working (give error msgs and such)
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/downloads.html' target='_blank'>Download Clicky Linky Thingy</a>
  • GRANNYGRANNY Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26695Members
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    Yes.....I "REALLY" am a GRANNY - Have 6 grandkids....Don't know why anyone would lie about that...I'll also check out that other thread you were talking about.
    If you have any doubts about me being a GRANNY - I can start telling you names, and ages...then will start talking about each kid...then you will beg me to stop. Once I find the other thread, I'll try to post something there.

    Thanks for your information, and also the link, and I will 'try' to dl the right thing, but ain't making promises...Like I said, you have to know me to KNOW I do so many things wrong...

    Thanks again gang!
    <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    No problem <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Here is the thread in question:
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=63260' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...showtopic=63260</a>

    And again, just come back if you hit any snags <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GRANNYGRANNY Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26695Members
    Lord knows I tried to make the pic thing work in the off topic section. Can't get it to post, as something I'm doing on my end is NOT correct. Sorry, but ya'll will have to believe that I'm who I say I am.
    To actually see pics of me, you can go to (I hope I'm not breaking any rules here)
    <a href='http://members.tripod.com/tgpclan' target='_blank'>http://members.tripod.com/tgpclan</a>
    When you get there, click to the FRIENDS OF TGP section, and find the name
    GRANNY !!!
    That would be me...
    Later
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    Gald to help out and like Thansal said, come back if you need anything else. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    ok ok, I belive you, <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    welcome to the forums, and I am sory but I can't help but grumble about your dog (cockerpoo... labradoodles... suposedly all of these horible names were created by a pair of ladies who is breading them in coneticut or sometihng....)
    Yes, they are cute (and labradoodles are very sweet) but the names are horrible <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GRANNYGRANNY Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26695Members
    LOL Thansal, so you like my dog? She's our baby, fer sure! By the way, I didn't shoot her.
    I've gotten a bit confused on what to download with the NS I copied the one post that said to dl NS3.0 Beta 1 and also NS3.0 Beta 3 <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->?

    FYI
    I've been playing HL for a few years, so I went through the painful thingy of downloading STEAM...I've got all of that and play Half Life, like every day.
    and
    somewhere I musta dl the NS, but according to the posts here, I must not have the current version, so that must be my problem.

    Should I "un-install" the NS version I have first, then dl the 2 beta ones?

    Trust me, I won't do something I am not totally sure of, because I've gotten myself in trouble in the past, so until I understand, I won't do anything.

    Torak...you seem like a really fun person, by the way.

    Anyhow you two, thanks for all your input!
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    hehe, here is the deal:

    client.dll errors means that your client is a different version then the server.
    If you wana play the latest version all you have to do is download beta 1 and run it (it will auto install itself into steam\steamApps\yourEmail\half-Life\nsp)

    Now you download and install Beta 3 and when the installer asks for a path you give it steam\steamApps\yourEmail\half-Life.

    Basicaly you install the patch like you would install any normal HL mod under won (point it at your HL dir and it will put itself in the proper sub dir)....

    alot of the dowloads seem to be dead, but if you just poke around (or fall back on using fileplanet...) you will find the right installers <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    I'm always fun, granny! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> Plus I teach people with masters degrees how to use computers ( I work in a pre-school and train the teachers) so I have endless patients for helping people. Always glad to be of service, that is if I can beat Thansal to the punch! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GRANNYGRANNY Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26695Members
    Okee Dokee Thansal & Torak.....I've copied the instructions, and hopefully will do this tomorrow.....Long work day here...yeah, I can't always play.... and just checked into here to see if there were any answers to my dilemma...
    You guys are very helpful and nice...Pat yourselves on the back, and give a self-hug, and I'll try to let ya know how it works out.
    THANKS!
    Have a great weekend!
    WooHoo!!!
  • GRANNYGRANNY Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26695Members
    OK you guys (by the way Thansal) I PM'd you 2 messages...
    Anyhow, spent all day downloading the beta 1 & 3, went to game, no go, then dl the patches and still no go, same client.dll error
    I don't have a clue what to do now, and I paid $80 bucks to join file planet so I could get the dl faster.
    I can tell you I went into STEAM, and CREATED a game in their choices there, and could get into a map that was natural selection...Don't know if that information helps you help me....
    Of course I was the ONLY player there....
    Let me know. I'm whooped and gonna go rest for awhile.
    THANKS fer all yer help guys, but it just isn't working yet.
  • nitsujnitsuj Join Date: 2004-02-21 Member: 26769Members
    I'm having the same dll problem. Usually it says something about a client dll, once in a while it says something about a map dll. I have the Beta 3 version and some patch. Can't wait to try the game, and help for both Granny and I would be great.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    yup yup, got the msgs (I have been sorta busy, just got into a beta for an mmorpg <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)

    Ok, lets see...

    What it comes down to now is tests..

    1) Make sure you have a folder at steam\steamapps\youremail\hlaf-life\nsp

    2) Were you prompted to install xfire with the beta 3 patch? If not then sometihng is worng ans you should have been.... Make sure the file was ns_v30_b3_patch.exe.

    3) Make sure that there is an exe called xfire_installer in that folder, if not then the installer some how looked in the wrong place....

    4) Look around all the dirs below Half-Life to see if there are any other folders called nsp, half-life or anytihng odd like that...

    5) On an off chance:
    If you are not the only person who has a steam account set up on your computer (aka there are a few emails in steam\steamApps\) the install might have pointed itself around incorrectly, if this is the case I think I should be able to wlak you through fixing that...

    well, I am gona go catch a few Zs (possibly)

    Good Luck.
  • GRANNYGRANNY Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26695Members
    Aha!
    I did a search for the xfire_installer and PC came up with ziltch. So, I'm figuring this is my problem? I do see a ns_v30_b3_patch_dedicated, v3_b2_patch andv3_b1 in the half-life folder, however they are not folders but icons, (like install icons?)
    Getting confused here as what to do. Should I do a total un-install of all natural selection items and start over? Please oh please do not tell me to un-install Steam and Half Life, as this bird is getting too old to handle this, and will really seriously consider taking up KNITTING fer sure.
    Thanks sweety!
  • nitsujnitsuj Join Date: 2004-02-21 Member: 26769Members
    Ok, I'm losing my cool. My computer is about to take a first class flight out the window. The nsp folder wasn't in where thansal said it should be so I moved it to steamaps/mymail/halflife Then, I didn't remember the cross fire thing happening, so I re-downloaded the patch and made double sure it was the same one thansal mentioned in his post. Then I installed it in the above folder. Much to my dismay, I still get the client dll doesn't match the servers error message. I think the next thing I will try is to completely uninstall the whole shebang, and start over. Sound reasonable?
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    AH HA!!!

    GRANNY, you nabed the wrong patch <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    The ns_v30_b3_patch_dedicated is for running a dedicated server.

    You want just plain old: ns_v30_b3_patch.exe

    here is the Fileplanet link:
    <a href='http://www.fileplanet.com/files/130000/136815.shtml' target='_blank'>http://www.fileplanet.com/files/130000/136815.shtml</a>
  • KaiserSozeKaiserSoze Join Date: 2004-02-21 Member: 26757Members
    edited February 2004
    Uninstall Natural Selection 2.0(remove all components), Install NS Beta 3.0, update that with NS Beta 3.01, log on to steam and give that a try.

    I'm currently having a problem with my NS crashing frequently and working on solving that problem too but having a hard time (sometimes NS likes to be stupid!)

    [EDIT] - Its usually a good idea to Uninstall Half-life and NS completely(maybe steam sometimes too), reupdate them and that will probably fix your problems

    P.S. You payed $80 for File Planet?! Are you on 56k?
  • GRANNYGRANNY Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26695Members
    OK Thansal THANKS SO MUCH. Just downloaded the patch you gave the link to.
    Didn't I tell you I can get myself in a heap of trouble if not given explicit instructions? Yeah, I do that well.
    I'll go see if all works now for me. Wondering if I should un-install and/or delete the dedicated server thingy.
    Kaiser.....Nope ...no 56k here. I use a cable modem. And yep, I was getting desperate to get things working and didn't want to wait for the hours waits for the downloads, so I bought the tip top of the line thingy from there to join.
    Yeah...so we won't be having desserts for about 6 months here, so I can replenish my goody pot, but hey, I tried really hard to do this right.
    Need younger brains here. That must be it.
    Will let ya know how things go Thansal, and THANKS THANKS THANKS AGAIN.
  • GRANNYGRANNY Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26695Members
    Good Grief! If a GRANNY needs to get herself in deeper trouble, send her my way, cuz I can give her lessons for free.
    I've gone thru and installed all the versions....and low and behold there was the x-fire thingy. Now, I went ahead and installed that but it went into my PROGRAM FILES folder. That is where it is now. I was afraid to move it.
    So, I've tried 6 servers and either it's a client.dll or a map dll/difference issue, and still cannot access any servers.
    Now what?
    Am I gonna have to bake and send you all cookies for this help?
    Or, is it free?
    LOL
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    hmm,

    so you have run:
    ns_install_v3_b1.exe

    then you ran:

    ns_v30_b3_patch.exe

    And when you checked you have the xfire installer in your steam\steamapps\email\half-life\nsp folder? (this is to simply make sure that beta 3 installed to the proper dir)

    and then via steam you tried to join a server? (make sure the game is a beta 3 game by expanding the game coloumn)


    this is just very wierd...

    I am honestly running out of ideas atm, the only thing I can possibly think of doing is trying again from the start... (this would only require reinstalling, I am nearly positive your files are proper now)


    The steps involved would be:

    1) remove the nsp folder form steam\steamapps\email\half-life

    2) Run ns_install_v3_b1.exe

    3) Make sure that steam\steamapps\email\half-life\nsp now exists

    4) Run ns_v30_b3_patch.exe (make sure you are prompted to install xfire, but don't as you have it installed already)

    5) make sure that the xfire installer is in the steam\steamapps\email\half-life\nsp folder. (again, you don't have to run it)

    6) go to the games window of Steam and double click on "Natural Selection (Beta)"

    7) In the server window make sure that you join a game with the label of "Natural Selection v3.0 beta 3"

    Also I am gona permenantly use this post as my "Look here, these are all of the things that I can say about client.dll problems" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • nitsujnitsuj Join Date: 2004-02-21 Member: 26769Members
    I had my kid bother come over. He's an avid gamer and tech support for an ISP, so he knows more than I. He spent 6 hours in my computer room, getting frustrated. He uninstalled and re-installed everything steam, half life or NS even looked at. Nothing. Ran some spyware remove software and some virus detection stuff. As a last ditch effort, he uninstalled eveything, and did a system restore to a month ago. Then carefully reinstalled everything. It works now. Not sure why, but it does. Now, I just have to figure out how to play it. I only tried once, and all I could be was an alein. I'd die everytime a marine even farted in my general direction. But thats a topic for a different section of the forum... Thanks for the help, and granny, good luck is all I can say.
  • GRANNYGRANNY Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26695Members
    Well, as of Wednesday (today) I still can't get into any games...I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong on my end, but I'm not sure what to do next.
    Thanks though, everyone, for trying to help me. Guess I'll stick to Half Life, and will be out $80.
    <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Perhaps if you wrote down the steps you take during your install we can see the error. It would be truely sad to lose a player because they couldn't install the game.
  • dReadydReady Join Date: 2003-10-16 Member: 21710Members
    edited February 2004
    possibly not the right thread to post this here but:
    by reading the last 3 pages it is so much pleasure to see people help each other - that's why i am playing this mod - because people are different than in other mods.....

    hope granny you get the thing running....
    @torak: your pic is sooooooooooooo cool *ggg*

    keep on going and good luck to all for getting the game to run.
  • GRANNYGRANNY Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26695Members
    Lordy be Torak....You really need to get to know me now don't you? LOL
    I'm afraid I can't give you the steps I took during the downloading and installation of NS...Why? Cuz I pushed so many buttons, and did so many things, this poor old brain can't remember...I do remember what I had for breakfast this morning. I think that's a good thing....
    LOL In all seriousness I'll try to go back and figure what I did, so I can let you know.

    and........dReady....Yes indeedy! Aren't the peeps here just wonderful? And I don't even think they're earning any badges for the boy scouts or anything like that. They are just wonderful, helpful people, and that's what makes this world a special place to live in.
    Why don't they put this stuff on the news every day, instead of all the bad stuff?
    Thanks again guys, and I'll try to get back to let you know what I 'think' I did...I actually have to take care of some office work here at home......today....and hit a doc appt. this afternoon. Don't worry, I always leave my weapons at home, so the doc will be safe for sure....
  • DaStackDaStack Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27046Members
    I am having this problem to, but i know i have the right verion(v3.03beta), and have installed it properly, usually i can get into servers(v3.03beta), but there are some times when i can't and there are maps i have never been able to play(since v3 and up to v3.03beta), i have tried unisntalling and reinstalling, and doesn't seem to make a difference.

    I am guessing there is no known fix patch or something for this problem.


    Is it possible to get this error while haveing the right dlls/map files?

    and say if someone who wasn't having problems ziped their working files up, and submitted it, would there be compatiblity issues with using their files?
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    You can join Beta 3 servers?

    yet sometimes you get errors? (with client.dll?)

    my guess is you are trying to join non beta 3 servers every so often <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    you can expand the game coloumn so you can see the full name, make sure it beta 3

    oh, and 'some maps' isn't descriptive, we need to know wich maps.
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