Half life = crap

HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
<div class="IPBDescription">And heres why...</div>OK, folks, it took a few re-reads to believe, but this was <a href="http://www.forumplanet.com/planethalflife/topic.asp?fid=1888&tid=834543&p=1" target="_blank">actually said</a>.  Astounding.

<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->now all of u guys are gonna get ###### about what i said but its true... and im about to explain why... First off the coders for the game are 2-bit lamers, that not only STOLE THE QUAKE 1 ENGINE FROM IDSOFTWARE but forgot to remove some of the id commands from it... which is a dead give away. Now you are probly wondering how could they steal the engine. Well every few years or so ID software release the source code for there older engines such as quake 1, which is basically the half-life engine and btw the q1 engine is pretty darn old, about 9 years or so havent really counted. So what do the lament coders do with the source? they compile it then modify a few game settings and change the ui(user interface), then add in a few maps and small game crypto such as the ability to have money and buy guns, and there u have it folks... It makes me sick how these coders can steel Id softwares work and claim it as there own . But sadly tthere not breaking any laws because ID software released the source for free and for everyone to use.. not to sell.. So if ur sick of ###### graphics of hl try playing a different game. Like Unreal Tournament, Quake 3, and even a quake3 mod- which is free btw called Urban Terror which has cs game-play but quake3 graphics abilities. You can find more info on why half-life sucks on google.com.. And remember i dont care what u llama's say or think this is my opinion.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Brilliant.  Truly brilliant.

Gah.  I weep for the future.

-Ryan!


"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
-- Albert Einstein
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  • FreemantleFreemantle Join Date: 2002-06-16 Member: 783Members
    Urban Terror sucks.
  • SkriftSkrift Join Date: 2002-09-25 Member: 1329Members
    LMFAO! That just made my day! ^_^ Where did he get the idea that you can <b>buy</b> weapons in HL? You can´t. He doesn´t even know what´s HL and what´s CS. The sad thing is that he propaply thinks that he´s right. <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
  • CMEastCMEast Join Date: 2002-05-19 Member: 632Members
    rofl lol lmao ... we need a new acronym especially for those guy. Thats just amazing, absolutely brilliant I'm... flabbergasted, bamboozled, speechless
    ...
    wow
  • TenebraeTenebrae Join Date: 2002-09-16 Member: 1321Members
    OMG I can't actually believe someone said that. How can people be so stupid
    [me wanders off muttering in despair]
    someone should send an  <!--emo&::onos::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tiny.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::onos::'><!--endemo--> round his house to show him how wrong he is.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    DOOM took the words from my mouth.
  • BillBill Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1108Members
    I don't want to believe there are people that stupid allowed to operate computers, so I'll just assume that he is a troll looking to get a rise out of the hot tempered gaming community.

    (please let me be right)
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    rofl, this fool doesn't seem to understsand that HL uses the Quake1 ENGINE.  Every game does that now.  Countless games on the Monolith engine... on the Unreal engine... on the Quake3 engine... on the UT engine...

    well, whatever.  Oh, and the Quake1 engine is 7 years old (built in 1995)
  • NovakoalaNovakoala Join Date: 2002-07-17 Member: 962Members, Constellation
    It's not like Valve has made it a secret or anything. It even says on the box that Half-Life uses 'technology licensed from id software'. They never stole it - id frequently sells licenses for their source code...

    Anyway, this has all been said before. In summary:

    I cannot believe the sheer idiocy of this person.
  • realityisdeadrealityisdead Employed by Raven Software after making ns_nothing Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 94Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->now all of u guys are gonna get ###### about what i said but its true... and im about to explain why... First off the coders for the game are 2-bit lamers, that not only STOLE THE QUAKE 1 ENGINE FROM IDSOFTWARE but forgot to remove some of the id commands from it... which is a dead give away. Now you are probly wondering how could they steal the engine. Well every few years or so ID software release the source code for there older engines such as quake 1, which is basically the half-life engine and btw the q1 engine is pretty darn old, about 9 years or so havent really counted. So what do the lament coders do with the source? they compile it then modify a few game settings and change the ui(user interface), then add in a few maps and small game crypto such as the ability to have money and buy guns, and there u have it folks... It makes me sick how these coders can steel Id softwares work and claim it as there own . But sadly tthere not breaking any laws because ID software released the source for free and for everyone to use.. not to sell.. So if ur sick of ###### graphics of hl try playing a different game. Like Unreal Tournament, Quake 3, and even a quake3 mod- which is free btw called Urban Terror which has cs game-play but quake3 graphics abilities. You can find more info on why half-life sucks on google.com.. And remember i dont care what u llama's say or think this is my opinion.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah, I hear ya, man! OMG, they steeled the engine!! :o :o OMFG, how did they get away with that!?!?!?! I guess we'll be seeing them in court pretty soon here. I hope they burn, it serves them right. Half-Life wasn't even close to an innovative/revolutionary/ground-breaking/influencing game. It did nothing for the FPS game industry. I mean, valve are such freaking morons. Bunch of n00bs. They have had absolutely no impact on the industry at all, and will never amount to anything. Half-Life's popularity was pure luck, and now they're just milking it for every last drop of money they can. I mean to make it worse, it's not like they're working on anything else either: they only make more CS. Like I said, Valve has done nothing for the gaming industry. They have had absolutely no impact on the way games are played and <i>made</i>, and will never contribute anything even <i>close</i> to what people like to call "revolutionary" to this world.

    Ever.
  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
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  • CuerzoCuerzo Join Date: 2002-04-29 Member: 546Members
    I'd sleep better if he was run over by a couple thousand trains. But not normal trains, no. Trains <b>with turrets and missile launchers</b>.
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Bill+Oct. 14 2002,11:46--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Bill @ Oct. 14 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't want to believe there are people that stupid allowed to operate computers, so I'll just assume that he is a troll looking to get a rise out of the hot tempered gaming community.

    (please let me be right)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry to bust your bubble....

    Quote :

    "Ridge Hall computer assistance; may I help you?"
    "Yes, well, I'm having trouble with WordPerfect."
    "What sort of trouble?"
    "Well, I was just typing along, and all of a sudden the words went away."
    "Went away?"
    "They disappeared."
    "Hmm. So what does your screen look like now?"
    "Nothing."
    "Nothing?"
    "It's blank; it won't accept anything when I type."
    "Are you still in WordPerfect, or did you get out?"
    "How do I tell?"
    "Can you see the C: prompt on the screen?"
    "What's a sea-prompt?"
    "Never mind, can you move your cursor around the screen?"
    "There isn't any cursor: I told you, it won't accept anything I type."
    "Does your monitor have a power indicator?"
    "What's a monitor?"
    "It's the thing with the screen on it that looks like a TV. Does it have a little light that tells you when it's on?"
    "I don't know."
    "Well, then look on the back of the monitor and find where the power cord goes into it. Can you see that?"
    "Yes, I think so."
    "Great. Follow the cord to the plug, and tell me if it's plugged into the wall."
    "Yes, it is."
    "When you were behind the monitor, did you notice that there were two cables plugged into the back of it, not just one?"
    "No."
    "Well, there are. I need you to look back there again and find the other cable."
    "Okay, here it is."
    "Follow it for me, and tell me if it's plugged securely into the back of your computer."
    "I can't reach."
    "Uh huh. Well, can you see if it is?"
    "No."
    "Even if you maybe put your knee on something and lean way over?"
    "Oh, it's not because I don't have the right angle -- it's because it's dark."
    "Dark?"
    "Yes, -the office light is off, and the only light I have is coming in from the window."
    "Well, turn on the office light then."
    "I can't."
    "No? Why not?"
    "Because there's a power failure."
    "A power... A power failure? Aha, Okay, we've got it licked now. Do you still have the boxes and manuals and packing stuff your computer came in?"
    "Well, yes, I keep them in the closet."
    "Good. Go get them, and unplug your system and pack it up just like it was when you got it. Then take it back to the store you bought it from."
    "Really? Is it that bad?"
    "Yes, I'm afraid it is."
    "Well, all right then, I suppose. What do I tell them?"
    "Tell them you're too stupid to own a computer."
  • humbabahumbaba That Exciting Tales From the Frontline Guy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 86Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    That is gold. PURE gold.
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ken20banks+Oct. 14 2002,14:03--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (ken20banks @ Oct. 14 2002,14:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I guess we'll be seeing them in court pretty soon here.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, according to his brilliant observations, you don't need to liscense the engine anymore.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->But sadly tthere not breaking any laws because ID software released the source for free and for everyone to use.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Makes you wonder how iD managed to extort those millions from these companies...

    Please, oh please, let this just be some troll looking to get a reaction.  Sadly, though, I fear he may be serious.  After all, designing gameplay, levels, models, and engine innovations are nothing if you didn't write the engine, right?

    Sigh.

    -Ryan!


    Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
    -- Euripides
  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Yah, I saw that post on the PHL forums a short while back.  It was good for a laugh, but sometimes you just have to realize that it's too late to help, and you just have to let him go.
  • the_stalkerthe_stalker Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 49Members
    bah, not another one of these again, why doesnt anyone lock these ones?  <!--emo&:angry:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'><!--endemo-->
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    stalker, did you not notice the sarcasm involved...  at least from the starter of this thread, not what he quoted.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--the_stalker+Oct. 14 2002,14:16--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (the_stalker @ Oct. 14 2002,14:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->bah, not another one of these again, why doesnt anyone lock these ones?  <!--emo&:angry:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Helps if ya, you know, read the thing before hitting the reply button.
  • the_stalkerthe_stalker Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 49Members
    i read it all, i guess i just didnt get it :|
    oh well, no reason for me to start getting all imature and start an arguement with someone, there everyone wins  <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
  • Umbrella_MasterUmbrella_Master Join Date: 2002-07-12 Member: 915Members
    I sometimes wonder what society is coming to when I hear things like this... boy oh boy.  "'Smell ya later!' 'I cant believe smell ya later replaced hello...'"  <--for some reason I can see something comparable to this happening in the future at the rate it's going now, even if it is the Simpsons.  Heh.
  • GazaarGazaar Join Date: 2002-03-31 Member: 366Banned
    Ignorance and the ability to fool yourself into thinking you're right no matter what the opposition brings forward, are diseases.  Diseases that are, unfortunately, not so uncommon as would be healthy.  Oh well.  What can you do?
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
    If you didn't notice already, this guy's post made <a href="http://www.planethalflife.com/features/mailbag/mailbag100802b.shtm" target="_blank">idiot mail of the week</a> at PHL. He really put a lot of effort into that post to get there....
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Surge+Oct. 14 2002,21:35--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Surge @ Oct. 14 2002,21:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you didn't notice already, this guy's post made <a href="http://www.planethalflife.com/features/mailbag/mailbag100802b.shtm" target="_blank">idiot mail of the week</a> at PHL. He really put a lot of effort into that post to get there....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or.. diddn't, and got it through being a complete and utter dolt.

    Yes, it is a word.

    dolt   Pronunciation Key  (dolt)
    n.
    A stupid person; a dunce.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Everyone knows what a dolt is. Duuh.
  • TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
    This man is quite possibly <b>the most</b> idiotic man I have ever EVER met on the internet. I would sleep more soundly if he was hit by a train. That really made my day though. I would of really loved to reply on that topic but they locked it. No-one seemed to mention all the other games that use the quake 1/2 engine. Heres a large list of all the popular games that used engines made by another company...

    Half-Life
    Soldier of Fortune
    Soldier of Fortune 2
    Deus Ex
    Serious Sam
    Tribes 2
    Aliens vs Predator
    Aliens vs Predator 2
    America's Army (Made by USA Military)
    Global Operations

    I'm sure theres more than that, but thats just a list of Popular ones I can name off the top of my head. I'm guessing (according to this guy) that the makers of all these games are 2-bit lamers?
  • the_stalkerthe_stalker Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 49Members
    i dont think hl looks anything like quake  <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
    avp 1 looks more like quake to me, also ss (serious sam)
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    <!--QuoteBegin--Windelkron+Oct. 14 2002,22<!--emo&:0--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'><!--endemo-->3--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Windelkron @ Oct. 14 2002,22<!--emo&:0--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'><!--endemo-->3)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->rofl, this fool doesn't seem to understsand that HL uses the Quake1 ENGINE.  Every game does that now.  Countless games on the Monolith engine... on the Unreal engine... on the Quake3 engine... on the UT engine...

    well, whatever.  Oh, and the Quake1 engine is 7 years old (built in 1995)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I believe HL uses the Quake 2 engine if I'm not mistaken.

    Did it occur to anyone that the person that wrote this was probably aiming for that "Idiot of the week" thing on PHL? I wouldn't be surprised; no-one can be <b>that</b> stupid.

    Well...

    My sister recently had a bit of a freak-out because the music she was listening to with her walkman wasn't the music on the CD she had just put in. As it turned out, she had put two CDs in at once...

    The Defence rests.

    --Scythe--



    <!--EDIT|Scythe|Oct. 15 2002,11:53-->
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Scythe+Oct. 15 2002,01:51--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Scythe @ Oct. 15 2002,01:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I believe HL uses the Quake 2 engine if I'm not mistaken.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I know i'm gonna open a can of worms by saying this, but here:

    just take my word that i know i'm 100% right on this:

    Half-Life uses the quake 1 engine, plus the quake 2 renderer, and maybe, maybe a little bit of other stuff. Netcode was quakeworld afaik till valve redid it.

    [edit]
    here, I just happened to find <a href="http://coding.valve-erc.com/?area=browse&id=666/1028244478" target="_blank">proof</a>.
    [/edit]



    <!--EDIT|DOOManiac|Oct. 15 2002,02:49-->
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Tzarcon+Oct. 14 2002,22:10--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Tzarcon @ Oct. 14 2002,22:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Tribes 2

    Aliens vs Predator 2<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ahem.  Sorry, but I have to do this.

    Tribes 2 used it's own, propietary engine.  And I'm not sure about AvP, but AvP2 used the Lithtech engine, made at Monolith, who I believe (but could be wrong) made the game.

    Although many, many other games had liscensed engines, too.  American McGee's Alice and Jedi Knight 2 both used the Q3A engine, and that's even newer.  Are Lucasarts and EA Games even BIGGER hacks, for using something newer?

    DOOManiac is right.  I couldn't believe it for the longest time.  Something that good couldn't be using the Q1 code.  While it does have some Q2 code scattered throughout (mainly in the netcode), it is, at heart, a Q1 game.  Amazing.


    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->oh well, no reason for me to start getting all imature and start an arguement with someone<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    the_stalker, there's no one on this board to GET in an argument with.  I doubt anyone on this board actually believes it, and has a hard time believing that someone ELSE believes it.  You can argue all you want, but you'd just be getting a lot of agreement from us.

    -Ryan!


    "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."
    -- Bertrand Russell
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