3.0 Lerk.

Zekk69Zekk69 Join Date: 2004-02-08 Member: 26283Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Am I the only one who hates them?</div> I was just wondering if I'm the only one who hates 3.0 lerks.

I don't like the new movement.
I don't like how they don't get spikes.

They should have an option that allows you to change movement to the old style or new one. Lerks should also have 2 level 1 attacks. Bite and Spikes.

What do you think?
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  • Patrick_The_Super_SkulkPatrick_The_Super_Skulk Join Date: 2003-09-25 Member: 21212Members
    In my opinion, the new lerk is the best way to kill light armors. Just practice the flight and learn to glide everywhere. Swooping down at your enemy while tapping the space bar works nicely.

    A focus lerk is a badass alien.
  • SariselSarisel .::&#39; ( O ) &#39;;:-. .-.:;&#39; ( O ) &#39;::. Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18557Members, Constellation
    You don't like it because it is different from what you are used to.
  • SilverAxSilverAx Join Date: 2003-10-26 Member: 21976Members
    edited February 2004
    I love the new lerk flight-model (when i am the Lerk and not the marine jumping out of it's dive path <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )

    It shreds light marines quite easily and is very cheap, so if you die, no biggie, you can lerk again very soon.

    You just need to get used to the new model, that's all.
  • The_FinchThe_Finch Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8498Members
    The new Lerk certainly isn't as easy as it was before. I think that the trick is to not worry so much about killing them right off as it is to simply hit them and get out alive. Too often I see Lerks land and try to be Skulks. Use spore to weaken the marines and then swoop in with focus bite. You don't need to kill all of the marines there, just try for one.
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    edited February 2004
    ... Yes.



    Flap thrice and hold your key, marines heads will come to thee...
    Flap like a fool, and you'll be owned ... old school!
    If marine's heads are what you seek, aim for one and snap your beak...
    Should you try to get them all, you'll be hit dead ... right into the wall!
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zekk69+Feb 8 2004, 11:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zekk69 @ Feb 8 2004, 11:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I was just wondering if I'm the only one who hates 3.0 lerks.
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    Yes.

    Lerk flight pwns you.
  • GhostBomberGhostBomber Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6910Members
    Agreed! Lerk flight pwns you!
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    New lerk owns hard
  • InsomniaInsomnia Join Date: 2003-06-10 Member: 17179Members
    Hmm. Follow mavericks poem. Its a good beginning point
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    Youre not the only one.
    already thought about an equal thread.
    new lerk needs re-thinking in easier movement.
  • Uh-OhUh-Oh Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6917Members
    Love the new lerk
    Miss the old Spikes.

    Aliens has it is, really need a ranged attack of some sort. Lerk spike was it...
    Bring back lerk spikes! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Aliens need help killing jetpackers, and acid rocket is way too weak (especially in combat)...
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ollj+Feb 9 2004, 12:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ollj @ Feb 9 2004, 12:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Youre not the only one.
    already thought about an equal thread.
    new lerk needs re-thinking in easier movement. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Mouselook.

    How could it be any simpler? It's even highly intuitive. Going up? You're slowing down. Going down? You're speeding up.

    With the old lerkflight system, people were basically small, moving turrets.. With spikes instead of bullets. People got used to the early game lerk taking out small outposts, and random marines.

    If I wasn't so team oriented (I.E. I didn't want to blow 30 res on an upgrade that essentially only benefits me in terms of RFK), I'd go lerk every round and obliterate marines left and right as the rest of my alien counterparts sat there with their thumbs up their butts.

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    maveric is a poet now? its kinda catchy... like a disease.

    the new lerk is the pwn. more like an actual animal flying waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier to swoop, and scary as marine. it gets my stamp of aproval.

    *stamps the new lerk, making sure he doesnt bite me*
  • HeavymachinegunHeavymachinegun Join Date: 2004-02-08 Member: 26285Members
    well at first i didnt like the lerk flying cause i wasnt used to it but after a while it became really useful since u can fly really fast and bite the monkey outta a marine
  • FCCFCC Join Date: 2003-07-16 Member: 18218Members
    The new Lerk system has got to be one of the greatest things added to Natural Selection. It is so much easier to control the lerk now, but it is annoying how they can't fly backwards anymore. Other than that, I don't understand how you could possibility hate the new flight system.
  • TheGuyTheGuy Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19295Members, Constellation
    The only thing it's missing is gliding left and right.
  • ExitusExitus Join Date: 2003-06-17 Member: 17424Members
    Lerk is no more "pain in the azz/vent"... its evolved to deadly son-of-a-... and thats what it today is. 1. weapon to kill after little spore. ... ah sweet.

    in the early 2.0 times when bite whas taken away the sound in this forum was the same "give the bite back"... and now in 3.0 "give the spike back"...

    I loved the lerks spikes but i think that in longer run the "full-melee" alien race is better than 1.xx fades from hell.

    but the flying... there is no reverse in my game. Sensitivity 1 <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    Heh.

    If you guys are whining about the lerk NOW, you should have seen it when it was first put in.

    You could NOT do anything without Adrenaline. Seriously. You could NOT fly and bite in any way, shape or form.

    They toned down the amount you slow down when you turn, they DRASTICALLY decreased the energy it takes to flap, they made each "flap" more powerful then 2.0 flaps ever were.. They sped up bite, and reduced damage (Did 70 due to a bug, toned it to 50, gave a bit of an increase), and look at it now.

    It friggin owns. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • The_OrangeThe_Orange Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26099Members
    Im not the greatist player, and i probably will never be one, but i think the aliens need more ranged attacks, specifally the spike the lerk used to have. Especially in combat. Trying to bite a marine in a jetpack in an large room is difficult to say the least, and i count the lerk as one of the only ways to combat them unless you happen to be a pro-skulk or pro-fade with incredible timing, or by building offence chambers (which you cant do in combbat).
    The spike attack wasent storng, and usually wouldent take down a jp quickely, but at least it was something, and it was the main reason i liked using the skulk.
    And to be honest i now never use the lerk, i instead save up to use the fade, which i never used in 2.0, and at that time opted for the weaker lerk, because in both cases it can be really difficult trying to learn how to use one or the other even remotley effective, if you can even pull it off.
  • Bad_HAL_9000Bad_HAL_9000 Join Date: 2003-10-14 Member: 21676Banned
    voogru added spike back to lerk for a while. It had two primary weapons. Spike and bite. That was the perfect balance. Had to remove it since It seemed to do to much damage I think.

    If Flayra is making marines that can move faster then a skulk and fly with grenade launchers. Then aliens should have somthing to stop it. A instant hit ranged attack would be the key, spikes. I cant make up my mind for spike vs bite tho
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-TheGuy+Feb 9 2004, 07:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheGuy @ Feb 9 2004, 07:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only thing it's missing is gliding left and right. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I thought the reason for this is because everything else with wings like that can't glide left & right.

    In fact, I can think of a few things that can fly left & right (Hummingbirds for example) but nothing that can glide left & right.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If Flayra is making marines that can move faster then a skulk and fly with grenade launchers. Then aliens should have somthing to stop it. A instant hit ranged attack would be the key, spikes. I cant make up my mind for spike vs bite tho
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The counter to that is follow him & bite his head off. It just takes practise.
  • WinterWinter Join Date: 2003-08-21 Member: 20042Members
    LOL! Lerk needs easier movement?

    "Oh noez I Hate having to hold down space bar and simply move my mouse the direction I want to go!"
  • grim2grim2 Join Date: 2003-12-09 Member: 24186Members
    lol ok i like the new lerk model for this very good reason.We were having a scrimage on battleforthegalaxy server and aliens won 5 in a row and lost 2 well that was when i was in there im not sure what the scores was after.And i OW all my kills to the new lerk model he bites fast i killed 2 ha's and 4 lm's in a few swoops it owns but i sorta miss spikes when im in tanith at dbl res node area and killing marine rt's :'(
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    The lerk is the new fade. Actually, the lerk is what the fade dreams of being. It's awesome at hit and run, it doesn't have to switch weapons to "blink", and it has support abilities. A focus lerk is utterly, utterly lethal. A non focus lerk takes down buildings so quickly it's not even funny.

    If you find the movement hard, try getting celerity.
  • KleptoKlepto Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10864Members
    its cool cept it has no spike, pain in the **** to get JPin Glers now <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sarisel+Feb 8 2004, 11:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sarisel @ Feb 8 2004, 11:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You don't like it because it is different from what you are used to. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My words exactly.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Klepto+Feb 9 2004, 03:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Klepto @ Feb 9 2004, 03:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its cool cept it has no spike, pain in the **** to get JPin Glers now <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No.
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    It generally comes down to personal opinion.

    To me, the new lerk is WAAAY better than before. In 2.0 and 2.01, lerks could barely dent HAs.

    Now, lerks are one of the most dangerous things to HA.

    But you do have to admit that with the removal of spikes, JPers are MUCH harder to hit in midair than before. What stinks more if is he has a GL, and he manages to launcyh one and have it make contact with your face. (Weirdly, it happens to me a lot.)
  • Maj_MistakeMaj_Mistake Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16577Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Klepto+Feb 9 2004, 03:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Klepto @ Feb 9 2004, 03:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its cool cept it has no spike, pain in the **** to get JPin Glers now <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just takes some practice. Take your time and make every bite hit, if you flap just in his general direction biting wildly you'll never kill a JPer.

    If we could merge Umbra and Spores together as was suggested elsewhere a while ago, since they are fairly similar anyway, then we could have slot 2 free for spikes. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZdrozZZdrozZ Join Date: 2003-01-11 Member: 12158Members, Constellation
    The new lerk flight is the best thing in 3.0. It's funny how often I met people who said "omg, the lerk sucks, I feel like a rock" and after 2 minutes they say "OMG OMG LORK PWNS!!!! WoOOT!"
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