Please Don't Use Divx

Dusda_Kisou · February 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">Xvid is better!</div> Instead of encoding the intro movie in DivX, use Xvid! Its much higher quality, much more stable, and its entirely open source! No stupid commercialized codec crap to sift through!

And plus...DivX 5 makes my computer crash, so...yeah. Don't use DivX!

Maxious · February 2004

im pushing xvid becuase its free so it should be able to be bundled with ns 3.0 without any legal issues unlike divx

Takel · February 2004

Legality issues concerning DivX? I do not believe there are ANY if you are referring to DivX version 5. DivX5 is a commercially avaliable product, which you have the option for a free version which can encode just as well, just that you may be missing out on advanced options and stuff, which have no additional benifates unless you're doing hardcore encoding work (which for a 8 meg file, does not apply). Besides, they can always use the Ad supprted encoder, and all you need is the basic codec pack to play back.
You would of course need to get a commercial license if what you are doing is for a commercial product, which is not what NS is, yet...

What WAS illegal was Version 3, which was a hacked version of MS's MPEG4 codec.

Please don't use the "use it 'cause it's open source" line. You get enough of that sifting through slashdot. I will admit though that XviD is currently a superior codec overall (speed, size reliability, quality etc... Read up on www.doom9.org for more details and stuff)

Dusda_Kisou · February 2004

I just don't see any reason to use DivX when there is a better, no-strings-attached codec like Xvid to use.

stylee · February 2004

Um, because DivX is already being used and you can't give any reasons that are so great that Flayra should just stop what he's doing and change to XviD right now. DivX is working fine, so no need to change it.

Zek · February 2004

Well, one reason would be that a lot of people were never even aware that Beta 1 had an intro movie in the first place because of DivX...

Ahnteis · February 2004

Actually, because divx is a commercial codec, it's much more stable and easier to distribute. Please don't get your head so wrapped in the opensource flag that you can't see the terrain you're trying to claim.

ZeroByte · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ahnteis @ Feb 2 2004, 07:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Actually, because divx is a commercial codec, it's much more stable and easier to distribute. Please don't get your head so wrapped in the opensource flag that you can't see the terrain you're trying to claim. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Err... I wouldn't argue much about the "much more stable" part, even though I wouldn't say that. However, I cannot see how a commercial product is much easier to distribute than an open source one. With a commercial product, you have to worry about all the licensing terms on the product. With XviD, all you really need is to point users to where they can get the source and you're free to distribute it any way you want to.

If you can enlighten me how commercial products are easier to distribute...

Starlude · February 2004

perhaps commercial products aren't easier to distribute, but they are certainly more widely know to the public. All of you here talking are talking about the difference between Divx and Xvid, I'm sure a number of people looked at the topic and went "WTH is DivX and Xvid". Now possibly they have DivX on their computer from something else, but I HIGHLY doubt, unless they are into anime, movies, or other computer-video related things KNOW what Xvid is... I bet many don't even know what DivX is, they just install it cuase they had to (at one point) in order to get something to work. Installing NS3.0 might have been that point, it may not have. But the point is DivX is more widely distributed than Xvid.

Edit: the only reason I know about this is because I love anime and have dabbled in encoding, otherwise I'd be one of those "wth is this DivX stuff?"

Wasian · February 2004

Divx, Xvid, matroska, ogg vorbis .... ah yes, I know well the ways of the codecs, all thanks to my love and constant downloading of anime. However I can easily see myself in the far minority in this group. Since I have installed virtually every common codec I really could care less, but for the unenlightened masses, keeping with the most common is probably best.

Malakai1 · February 2004

I'm in one of the bigger fansub groups for anime, so I have lots of experience with different video codecs and containers.

XviD is by far the better choice over DivX 5.x when it comes to liscencing and filesize/quality. We have been using XviD exclusively for almost a year now, and some of the encoders have been using it for about 18 months.

As far as widespread usage goes, I have never not had xvid or divx installed on my pc, but being a big anime freak I may be the minority.

Ahnteis · February 2004

xvid is fine for fansubs or "moviez" but for a commercial quality product it's inappropriate. There's a reason major game companies (Blizzard for one) use Divx for their movies.

Starlude · February 2004

see I knew that all you were into anime or moviez or one type or another... most of us know about Divx, Xvid, matroska, ogg vorbis [especially if you've dabbled in encoding] and other misc. types rarely seen, but we are indeed in the minority.

I totally agree Xvid is tons better than DivX, but I believe it is in the best interests for NS to stick with DivX for the reasons I and others have listed above.

devicenull · February 2004

Heres the thing.. no matter what codec is chosen, you will get people saying change to X.

You really dont want to have to worry about if the codec gets installed correctly..
If xvid has a USER-FRIENDLY installer, then it could be done.. but then you have to encode the movie again :/

Olmy · February 2004

intro movie?<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' />

Raw_Evil · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ahnteis @ Feb 3 2004, 02:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> xvid is fine for fansubs or "moviez" but for a commercial quality product it's inappropriate. There's a reason major game companies (Blizzard for one) use Divx for their movies.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
How is it inappropriate? It's a great codec, with better quality. What is your 'reason' for major game companies to use DivX?

Also, since when has Flay's team been a 'major game company'? So far they've made <b>one mod</b>.

I can't see a reason not to use xvid instead. I say, if it allows better quality without making a ridiculously big file, all the more reason to use it. I'd use it even if it weren't open source, merely because it works better.

Please Don't Use Divx

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