Skulk, Public Enemy No.1

DrVirusDrVirus Join Date: 2004-01-13 Member: 25282Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">He is!</div> Skulks have one thing which makes them speciall. Wall climbing. This gives them the advantige over pathetic marines. If a skulk has cloaking, or silence the marines dont stand a chance. I tried to compare all the other aliens and this is what I got...

Gorges: No chance, poor weapons and too slow.
Lerk: Flies and has good weapons, but in small spaces fat chance.
Fade: Too big, but his weapons turn over the cards.
Ono: TOOOOO Big! Cant hide anywhere, and cant go into some places on map...
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  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    Every well thought out post deserves another <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • oOgAoOgA Join Date: 2004-01-29 Member: 25715Members
    edited January 2004
    the onos might give u a bigger suprise when it is cloaked a closed corridor..

    just imagine walkin to a invisible wall and the onos suddenly 'materialise' in front of u.. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    oh..btw..just registered to ns forums..
    hi all.. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Griff-512Griff-512 Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25220Members
    i laugh at onos now, and fades, gorges still make me un easy, lerks are feared, skulks are just fun to shoot at <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    omg onos *points and laughs at onos*
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  • kolokolkolokol Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9166Members
    I just thank god that we have combat..its such fantastic training for pubbing <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> Now i can really use that fade!
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  • RestrikRestrik Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19392Members, Constellation
    Its sad how usless the <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> is now. Not worth the 75 res, its no longer the game breaker. If an alien goes <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> to help the aliens take out some marine RT's...sure...its good for that....but if it meets up w/ 2 or 3 LMG's and doesn't have celery, bye bye <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> gg rines
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  • xioutlawixxioutlawix Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7118Members, Constellation
    I'm unfortunately inclined to agree about onos. Might be balanced for combat, but in regular ns, its as effective as a wet paper mache kitten.
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  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ooga_shaga+Jan 30 2004, 05:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ooga_shaga @ Jan 30 2004, 05:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the onos might give u a bigger suprise when it is cloaked a closed corridor..

    just imagine walkin to a invisible wall and the onos suddenly 'materialise' in front of u.. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    oh..btw..just registered to ns forums..
    hi all.. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    or beter yet, marine happily hopping along, goes around corner and BAM

    hes staring at the digestion screen.... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Dusda_KisouDusda_Kisou Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24773Members
    I solo'd an Onos in combat the other day...never done that before. I had heavy armor and a hmg...kept bunny hopping around him and gunned him down without taking more than a hit or two by gore. So I guess you're right about the problem with onos...I remember back in the 1.0 days, an onos was a sign of your inevitable doom.
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  • Da_SargeDa_Sarge Old School Suck Join Date: 2002-10-15 Member: 1502Members
    Onos involves a bit more strategy than just "Run into the marines head on and hope I don't die". The best strat for an onos IMO is to be sneaky. Try to sneak up as close as possible to the marine spawn as skulk, try and wait till the spawn empties out, gestate,and plow through the spawn yourself. It may not win the game, but it is a huge setback if you can cause enough damage.
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  • RestrikRestrik Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19392Members, Constellation
    IMO the <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> is a tank...or atleast should be. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> = Dead onos

    <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> =3 dead riens...<!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Da Sarge+Jan 30 2004, 04:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Da Sarge @ Jan 30 2004, 04:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Onos involves a bit more strategy than just "Run into the marines head on and hope I don't die". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And that's the point. That doesn't meet with 'the character' of the Onos. It's <b>meant</b> to be a huge, rampaging death machine that people wet their pants over.

    Sneaky is not it's forte.

    - Shockwave
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  • VarsityVarsity Join Date: 2004-01-29 Member: 25687Members
    edited January 2004
    In fact there are a lot of players who find it fun to cloak with the Onos and hide round corners unti someone runs into their mouth: even further from what it is meant to be used for. Perhaps removing the Onos' ability to cloak?
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  • MaxAmusMaxAmus UK Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24779Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Varsity+Jan 30 2004, 10:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Varsity @ Jan 30 2004, 10:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In fact there are a lot of players who find it fun to cloak with the Onos and hide round corners unti someone runs into their mouth: even further from what it is meant to be used for. Perhaps removing the Onos' ability to cloak? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If u do that where is the fun for da Aliens? i think combat is very much 1 sided, for aliens to win it they all must rush in at the very start, i played a map that last over 1 hour and 45 mins on combat, i thought combat was ment to be fast, well it was fun killing 4 ouns wif a shot gun and a jet pack lol <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    The problem isn't that onos CAN be sneaky--it's that the onos HAS to be sneaky to survive. Aliens have almost zero endgame. No equivalent to HA+Siege.
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  • VarsityVarsity Join Date: 2004-01-29 Member: 25687Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MaxAmus+Jan 30 2004, 03:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MaxAmus @ Jan 30 2004, 03:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If u do that where is the fun for da Aliens? i think combat is very much 1 sided, for aliens to win it they all must rush in at the very start, i played a map that last over 1 hour and 45 mins on combat, i thought combat was ment to be fast, well it was fun killing 4 ouns wif a shot gun and a jet pack lol <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In other classes. If you <i>don't</i> do that, where is the fun for the rines?
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  • ZdrozZZdrozZ Join Date: 2003-01-11 Member: 12158Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Varsity+Jan 30 2004, 06:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Varsity @ Jan 30 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-MaxAmus+Jan 30 2004, 03:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MaxAmus @ Jan 30 2004, 03:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If u do that where is the fun for da Aliens? i think combat is very much 1 sided, for aliens to win it they all must rush in at the very start, i played a map that last over 1 hour and 45 mins on combat, i thought combat was ment to be fast, well it was fun killing 4 ouns wif a shot gun and a jet pack lol  <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In other classes. If you <i>don't</i> do that, where is the fun for the rines? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Get scan
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  • VarsityVarsity Join Date: 2004-01-29 Member: 25687Members
    I think I just got owned. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • RedmonkeyRedmonkey Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8052Members
    I'm seeing a lot of --Jan-04 posters playing beta once, then posting about everything wrong with it, or their initial impressions. Sigh. Lurking should be suggested forum practice. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Raptor091288Raptor091288 Join Date: 2002-07-15 Member: 955Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    i've also noticed that you can still take down an onos with a level-2 hmg, got one on combat with a jp/hmg combo, 1 clip, dead onos, i think i had like 12 shots leftover also, and in 1.0, if there were onos, then there were 3 hives, which means your comm sucked <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> , in 2.0x/3.0, onos hardly do anything, in 3.0 they're much tougher however, alot harder to kill than the 1.0x and especially harder than the 2.0x onos, imo carapace should give em like 750 instead of 650 armor, and absorb 95% of damage like HA armor'
    and i agree redmonkey, its pathetic how many people complain that 'the new onos is too tough' or 'its too easy' or better yet, 'combat is unfair for marines, they cant win', and thats after playing a total of 3 combat games, whereas if you actually TRY and learn to play you'll find its balanced either way, though with some people i agree that some maps are easier for certain teams to win
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  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Restrik+Jan 30 2004, 09:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Restrik @ Jan 30 2004, 09:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Its sad how usless the <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> is now. Not worth the 75 res, its no longer the game breaker. If an alien goes <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> to help the aliens take out some marine RT's...sure...its good for that....but if it meets up w/ 2 or 3 LMG's and doesn't have celery, bye bye <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> gg rines <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    With celerity (even with no regen) That battle is eassy. Eat one, gore the other two, or run...

    Though if youu've been hit with elec from the rt you stand less of a chance.
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  • Iced_EagleIced_Eagle Borg Engineer Join Date: 2003-03-02 Member: 14218Members
    yea I have seen far too many onos kills lately ;( sad sad onos why did u leave me


    the best strategy for a skulk atm is a silenced, regeneration, cloak skulk (ninja skulk <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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