End Game For Marines
Olmy
Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
<div class="IPBDescription">turns to endgame for aliens</div> I just played a game of ns where the marines were on one rt, we had every other one, but through sheer weakness or arms 3 onoses couldn't kill their base (turret farm of about 20 turrets with marines shooting also). We were at this stage for about 20 minutes, damaging their base taking a few turrets, them welding and rebuilding occasionally, and sometimes handing out hmgs. Many oni died in this venture, and apparently we didn't realise that a single marine snuck their way into the siege room of equilibrium hive. They proceded to siege our hive while we desperately xenoed them. But it was not use, we couldn't put a dent in them because of lvl 3 armour. So in a situation where we had the upper hand, we had the entire map and its rts, and at most points 3 oni in a 5v5 game, could not break their base, and out of complacency they went on to win the game in the most awful way imaginable. I imagine if that marine didn't get through, another would have, because their was no way we would have ever been able to destroy that base. 20 turrets + welders and 4 marines (minus commander) versus up to 4 oni. Not a chance in hell of the aliens winning. Is this situation ever going to be resolved? As i recall this was never an issue in 1.04.
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2 lerks and 3 onos is much more powerful then 5 onos.
1: Hit the RT. The sooner you hit your enemies cash cow, the sooner they'll be starving for res
2: Dont die. Dying gives them res. Dont give them res.
3: Aim for the armory. The sooner you get their prime ammo and weapons dump down, the better. No more GL's, no more shotties and only stock marines.
4: Wear their base down using AR support. AR is still quite powerful.
5: WoL up the exits to their base. Leave room for onos, but make sure there isnt one single spot that a rine can hide or run without being hit by an OC
6: Optionally, hit the TF with AR
7: Aim for HA's. Though tough, they are juicy kills.
8: Always always ALWAYS fallback to defend the hive. If worse comes to worse you'll have only let them get an RT. 3 Hives am win.
9: Spore/Umbra spam should never be discounted.
Also, what map was this on? Some maps are better to turret farm then others...
5 fades with acid can help you there...
but to be true, all you need is one coordinated attack of your all team.. even in a pub..
so just wol the base and get some lerks who spamspore the base...
1 lerk can now spike the tf or whatever down without much of a risk after all rines are gased
spore rox rines
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2.01 bugged umbra = teh lose.
[edit] it was ns_lost.
Put heaps of OC's at choke points so no marine ever escapes.
Put DC's down as healing farms for onos and fades. If they dont have
seige put DC's and MCs as close as possible to the base.
*WEB*
Then when all the onos come in they should have addren not celerity.
THey will own all of the turrets with primal scream and umbra.
and the gorges can bile to assist or heal spray. Or even OC spam.
The hardest is tannith when they have seige and gl spam.
WINNAH = Blinking fades and onos
Either way its lame to do this and i think all comms who Turret Farm will make every1
quit the server and stuff up ns for the night.
Had the same situation.
Seven of us went redemption onos, (After one guy set a bunch of DCs in alpha hive, movements in the others) and started kamikaziing their base over.. and over.. and over..
Took a while, but they did eventually fall. The key for oni is that redemption is time. Even if you have infinite res, time is not on your side.
I haven't played tanith lately, however I believe this is fixed in 3.0, or there are plans to fix it.
I haven't played tanith lately, however I believe this is fixed in 3.0, or there are plans to fix it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
RT has been lowered and there is a ramp in place of the ladder
Anyway to make sure that you get the most out of your 3 hives, do one thing before you onos....
Gorge.
Why? - Web. The one tool that can stop marines dead in their tracks. Coupled with OCs, OCs become more than just detterants to your average stock marine.
After that you can Onos or do the unthinkable....
Lerk
Now you still have spike. If you have enough distance between yourself and the armory, and can hide from turret fire while you're at it, you can wear it down. Of course marines will know, but you'll most likely have an SC nearby. Make use of hit and run <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> And make sure you keep wearing down that armory!
It won't matter if they continue to weld it. Because welding = time. And with redemption Oni rushing in every now and then, they won't necessarily have that much time to weld back to full health.
Just make sure you make sure what you're going to do will help the team. If it doesn't you're just walking backwards and losing the game.