Lockup During Loading

SNAFUSNAFU Join Date: 2002-05-05 Member: 582Members
in Tech Support
<div class="IPBDescription">When server changes maps...</div>I'm quite sure that this is a Steam-related issue, but I couldn't find any mention of this problem in the stickied thread (Explicit Instructions On How To Play Ns In Steam), so I'll ask it here.

Everytime the server I'm on changes maps, NS freezes and I'm forced to Ctrl-Alt-Del my way out. This problem is rather tiresome, so I would like some suggestions.

Please note that this problem appeared after I switched to Steam. Also, I installed a new TurtleBeach Santa Cruz sound card around the same time. These are the only 2 major significant hardware changes I've made recently, and NS worked fine beforehand.

I suffered from most of the other typical Steam symptoms, such as the "Reliable Channel Overflow" error, max_errordistance, etc. For the record, I still haven't fixed the fonts for my radial menus either. I welcome help there as well, since I'm too lazy to look it up myself.

Specs:
- 2.4 Ghz Dell Dimension 8200
- Santa Cruz sound card (TurtleBeach); Geforce 4 Ti4600 (Nvidia); 512 Mbs of Ram
- Windoze XP Pro
- 1024 * 768 Normal mode (OpenGL); Color Quality: 32-bit
- NS Client freezes during server map changes. Only able to exit by force quit. Note that sounds, such as voice chatter, loop when it freezes.
- EAX off, of course.
- Running under HL client (CS retail also installed on this machine, however. Perhaps removing it may help?)

As always, optimization tips also welcome. :D

Thank you.
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  • Red_SquirrelRed_Squirrel Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24414Members
    As far as I know the problem of crashing on map change cannot be fixed with a simple download to fix a bug. It is due to 2.01 not being designed for Steam and so it has a lot of issues with it, one of which is the map change crash. So it's a case of grin and bare it until 3.0 is released which will be 100% Steam compatible.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    the only posible fix any one has done is to install/reinstall (agian and again and again) the 2,0 steam beta

    you can find it in the open beta forum
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  • Nosferatu_the_ShankerNosferatu_the_Shanker Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25014Members
    edited January 2004
    Yeah, my entire box just freezes and then the "illegal operation window" pops up, but I can't see it. The only reason I know it's there is that it's the only thing, that, when my mouse cursor is on it, I can see my cursor, otherwise I don't...Then I have to press the restart button on my computer, and this is not good for my computer <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><b>AT ALL</b></span>...and there's no remedy for this? That's also not good.
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  • GrillkohleGrillkohle Join Date: 2003-12-23 Member: 24695Members, Constellation
    This is a Steam related issue, it was a bug that used to appear on all mods.
    Try to delete the ClientRegistry.blob in the Steam folder and restart Steam, it should re-update your Steam files then.
    If that does not work, uninstall Steam, delete the Steam folder, and make a fresh installation of Steam. Also make sure that you use the NS 2.0 <b>Steam Beta</b>, not the normal WON files just copied in the HL folder.

    There will still be casual Natural-Selection crashes, but those are caused by NS since it is not fully compatible to Steam yet, but it will be once 3.0 comes out.
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  • Nosferatu_the_ShankerNosferatu_the_Shanker Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25014Members
    edited January 2004
    I have Steam Beta, deleting ClientRegistry.blob is a nuisance because it f's up my games. Instead of it saying something like "Rabblabble has joined Axis/Counter-Terrorists/Frontiersman," It says, "%s has joined Axis/Counter-Terrorists/Frontiersman." And plus, Steam takes <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'><b>FOREVER</b></span></span> to update afer deleting ClientRegistry.blob.


    Edit: Also, if I quit playing NS until 3.0 comes out, I'll have a beard longer than Saddam's.
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  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    There is no way to fix this because this is an issue related with nVidia GeForce drivers. This is fixed in 3.0 though.
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  • Nosferatu_the_ShankerNosferatu_the_Shanker Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25014Members
    What the hell is wrong with the Nvidia GeForce drivers?
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  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nosferatu the Shanker+Jan 10 2004, 11:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nosferatu the Shanker @ Jan 10 2004, 11:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What the hell is wrong with the Nvidia GeForce drivers? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is not for me to answer because I don't know too.

    But it DOES have something to do with the drivers. You can take a look for yourself when you check the details.

    But of course, there's a minor fix though.....use D3D <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Nosferatu_the_ShankerNosferatu_the_Shanker Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25014Members
    D3D sucks and I can't even see the " 'Illegal' Operation" window...When it pops up, it doesn't even render it, and then my entire computer freezes except for my mouse.
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  • GrillkohleGrillkohle Join Date: 2003-12-23 Member: 24695Members, Constellation
    Sounds like your computer is all messed up.
    My suggestion:

    format c:
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    Grillkohle:
    No, this is a KNOWN BUG. Some people get lucky with reinstalls/reformats but often enugh it still persists (RaVe has it down, he has given the known explenation for it)

    Nosferatu:
    stop being anoying.
    Demanding things of us (especialy things that we can't do) just makes us not want to help you out, so please be more considerate and tactful when trying to get help.
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