Knife Strategy

r3dsk4r3r3dsk4r3 Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16257Members
in Frontiersmen Strategy
<div class="IPBDescription">for those unfamiliar</div> this could help those of you who are missing a few fingers due to poor knife usage.

1.) the knife is not intimidating by itself, swinging it around like a madman won't scare skulks.

2.) don't try to knife gorges, they're too hard to hit and lack speed/attacks to pose a threat, just reload.

3.) if you commit to the knife, use it, don't knife and then try to reload with a skulk at your heels.

One little tip i can contribute is this, pretend the knife is a shield.

always keep the knife between you and the skulk, that way if they try to bite you, they hit the knife, its amazingly simple, but very effective.

so often you see people knifing, running, jumping, spinning, only to get disoriented and bitten in the ****.

pretending your knife is a shield (you must be knifing for this to work) is a good visualization to get accustomed to the way the knife functions in gameplay.

the least this will do is stall the skulks, allowing teamates to arrive, or the last few bars of an elec rt to fill before you die.
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  • JPPJPP Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21221Members
    well i would disagree with all those points...
    .........................i'm gonna goto bed and i'll give my reasoning tommorow >_<
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  • BuggyBuggy Join Date: 2003-11-08 Member: 22400Members, Constellation
    i think a knife is very intimidating (well, to a skulk at least). cos a knife kill is pretty humiliating. when someone grabs his knife im always careful so that he doesnt kill me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Lost3Lost3 Join Date: 2003-12-09 Member: 24181Members
    I'm fairly non-commital about the knife. It is not a cure all for warding off hopping skulks or for curing your ammo woes. Its a last ditch weapon and really should be trested as such... Use your main weapons first then, whip out the knife when various things starting hitting the proverbial fan. The knife is usefule for saving ammo when killing alien rez nodes or other towers. Certainly you should know how to use the knife, like all the weapons... But don't grab the knife unless, you mean to kill a structure, are out of luck, or feel like annoying the aliens with knife kills.
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  • FlashFlash Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1783Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--r3dsk4r3+Jan 5 2004, 01:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (r3dsk4r3 @ Jan 5 2004, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 2.) don't try to knife gorges, they're too hard to hit <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    not true.
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  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    I played a PUG against some really good clanners some time ago (we won!) and someone (dont remember who it was, think hes playing in #.BM (BäconMännen) though) and he would always shoot at you with the lmg first, and when you leaped in close he would pull his knife and knife you in mid-air before during the time it takes to switch to bite. Worked amazingly well, though it takes a lot of skill and timing to pull it off properly..
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  • BuggyBuggy Join Date: 2003-11-08 Member: 22400Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--coris+Jan 6 2004, 02:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coris @ Jan 6 2004, 02:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I played a PUG against some really good clanners some time ago (we won!) and someone (dont remember who it was, think hes playing in #.BM (BäconMännen) though) and he would always shoot at you with the lmg first, and when you leaped in close he would pull his knife and knife you in mid-air before during the time it takes to switch to bite. Worked amazingly well, though it takes a lot of skill and timing to pull it off properly.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ive gotta try that.
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  • ZombieNinjaDoomLaserBabyZombieNinjaDoomLaserBaby Join Date: 2003-12-12 Member: 24281Members
    the knife is only intimidating when you can see they have some clue of what they are doing. Although I do sometime like to pretend I don't know what I'm doing to get the hunting skulk to loosen up enough to make a mistake.
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  • BOBDololBOBDolol Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21431Members
    If you know the skulk is weak or low on health, its always cool to just get a knife kill.
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  • r3dsk4r3r3dsk4r3 Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16257Members
    wow flash, you have such informative replies. maybe you could share your secret with us.
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  • JPPJPP Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21221Members
    there is no secret. gorges are big, fat and slow. if you find them difficult to knife then you suck.
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  • RiceyRicey Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11822Members
    JP, gorges are not slow. Its faster then a marine. I've played many scrimmages where people try knifing me, and they always die by me spitting them to death. I am a gorge and thats all i really play.
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  • Lord_MazLord_Maz Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18119Members
    One thing i have noticed is that you should never try to knife a fade, it's suicide. If you run out of ammo in both the LMG and the pistol you should keep dodging it and reload either one instead of resorting to the knife, because as soon as you're close enough for the (extremely short) fade swing you're dead.

    Knife + <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif'><!--endemo--> = <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • EvenFlowEvenFlow Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11046Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--_JP_+Jan 7 2004, 04:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (_JP_ @ Jan 7 2004, 04:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> there is no secret. gorges are big, fat and slow. if you find them difficult to knife then you suck. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1.04 gorges were knife fodder, I'll only knife a gorge if I know I've done enough damage with my lmg and there are no dc's nearby.
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  • ShesekShesek Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17617Members
    gorges aren't hard to hit
    but they can be extremly deadly with spit
    especialy to a marine with no armor
    best thing to do is blast the fookers :/
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  • CheeseCheese Lork on the Clorf Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24396Members, Constellation
    another tip: it helped me out some times... if there is some space between you and the skulk charge one step and as soon as the skulk charges you jump back knifing like hell. most of the time there is a break between the bites when he reaches you cause he misscalculated. it works
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  • spidermonkeyspidermonkey @ Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20810Members
    edited January 2004
    A good way to knife face the skulk with your knife untill he goes for a bite, now you can jump+crouch back and slice the skulk as he falls beneath your feet.

    edit: hmm kinda similar to cheeses post :/
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--spidermonkey+Jan 12 2004, 09:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (spidermonkey @ Jan 12 2004, 09:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A good way to knife face the skulk with your knife untill he goes for a bite, now you can jump+crouch back and slice the skulk as he falls beneath your feet.

    edit: hmm kinda similar to cheeses post :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    rofl.

    Anyone who can pull that off deserves a medal. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Still, it may be possible. Being a traditionalist, I just shoot the things. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • CheeseCheese Lork on the Clorf Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24396Members, Constellation
    hmm did you actually read the topic? it said that you are out of ammo. hmm a little test. shot all your ammo into the pampas and search for a skulk. as soon as you see him start shooting. please tell me exactly what happened after you aimed for the skulk and pressed the trigger in your next post <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • spidermonkeyspidermonkey @ Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20810Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BlueNovember+Jan 13 2004, 12:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Jan 13 2004, 12:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> rofl.

    Anyone who can pull that off deserves a medal. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Still, it may be possible. Being a traditionalist, I just shoot the things. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    All it takes is some timed strikes and crack-weasel jumps. Though i havent completely mastered it, i could probably kill the skulk if it was on low hp, say 1-2 strikes. The knife is awesome imo, i get about 1-2 knife kills per game.

    aiie go the wc3 avatars <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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