Grenades

ioprediopred Join Date: 2003-07-06 Member: 17965Members, Reinforced - Supporter
edited December 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">And Possible Abuse</div> Hey, I was reading the changelog, and it says that each marine will start with one grenade (after the upgrade).

Will it be possible for possible lamers to drop their grenades and have one marine collect them all, and have a crazy grenade run?

Or, do you start with one grenade, and only have a maximum capacity for one grenade? Meaning that if someone drops their grenade, you can't pick it up...

Thanks!

ps. I'm a big fan of the grenades! So I'm just hoping that there is no way to abuse them
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  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    The second one. Grenades aren't too great right now, anyway.
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  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    Also (Like the knife) it's impossible to drop them (impulse 3). <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Delphi+Dec 25 2003, 07:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Dec 25 2003, 07:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also (Like the knife) it's impossible to drop them (impulse 3). <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Delphi I just wanted to say (this is off-topic) your sig rocks, and we are a dying breed <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--CommunistWithAGun+Dec 25 2003, 11:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Dec 25 2003, 11:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Delphi+Dec 25 2003, 07:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Dec 25 2003, 07:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also (Like the knife) it's impossible to drop them (impulse 3). <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Delphi I just wanted to say (this is off-topic) your sig rocks, and we are a dying breed <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Survival of the fittest
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  • Asal_The_UnforgivingAsal_The_Unforgiving Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14903Members
    Hmmmm, I suppose I should go back to practicing with grenades, they WILL be useful, if I have to be the only one who knows how to use them!
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  • naunau Join Date: 2003-07-04 Member: 17918Members
    Can you prime grenades? Sorry if this is an old/answered question.
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  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--CommunistWithAGun+Dec 25 2003, 11:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Dec 25 2003, 11:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Delphi+Dec 25 2003, 07:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Dec 25 2003, 07:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also (Like the knife) it's impossible to drop them (impulse 3). <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Delphi I just wanted to say (this is off-topic) your sig rocks, and we are a dying breed <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I missed the "L" in cloaked.

    Oopsie.
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  • PowerslavEPowerslavE Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21962Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--nau+Dec 25 2003, 09:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (nau @ Dec 25 2003, 09:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Can you prime grenades? Sorry if this is an old/answered question. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not at the moment.
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  • SoberanaSoberana Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17695Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CommunistWithAGun+Dec 25 2003, 11:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Dec 25 2003, 11:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Delphi+Dec 25 2003, 07:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Dec 25 2003, 07:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also (Like the knife) it's impossible to drop them (impulse 3). <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Delphi I just wanted to say (this is off-topic) your sig rocks, and we are a dying breed <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You even met Delphi ingame?

    Biggest arrogant jackass I ever seen.
    No offense, of course.
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  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Some of us kill the old fashioned way; You know, aiming at our targets, having patience, not turning our gamma up to see cloaked skulks, or jumping around like a friggin' idiot to avoid said skulk.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And the rest of us win.

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    (completely off topic, but I couldn't resist)

    (sorry)
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  • c0mpleXc0mpleX Join Date: 2003-09-17 Member: 20945Members
    jeez i cant wait for nades.... its gonna be SOOOO satisfying to blow the friggin sh!t outta that lerk camping in the Eclipse rine spawn vent... you know the one... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--c0mpleX+Dec 26 2003, 10:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (c0mpleX @ Dec 26 2003, 10:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> jeez i cant wait for nades.... its gonna be SOOOO satisfying to blow the friggin sh!t outta that lerk camping in the Eclipse rine spawn vent... you know the one... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It would have to be a pretty dumb lerk to get the "******* ****" (please don't try to dodge the swear filter. It's there for a reason) blown out of it. With the current build, the best you can do is to scare it off for a bit.
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  • TrayderTrayder Join Date: 2003-10-30 Member: 22127Members, Constellation
    btw, do hand nades explode when u chuck em into a skulkz face like the launcher nades do?
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  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Trayder+Dec 26 2003, 05:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Trayder @ Dec 26 2003, 05:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> btw, do hand nades explode when u chuck em into a skulkz face like the launcher nades do? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nope

    And I doubt it would be overpowered, because that's what playtesting is for no?
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  • DarkYetiDarkYeti Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22886Members
    I had little expirience with ns3, but as I recall you cant throw the grenades as far as in other games or mods. its more like for close distance, when you know you are gonna die but you want to take the enemy with you.....
    But I could be wrong, any way you think grenades are so fun, so you are using only them, only to discover that they suck.....
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  • QwomgQwomg Join Date: 2003-11-29 Member: 23733Members
    I'd prefer a GL now rather than a single grenade. Though it would sure be something after tweaking.
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  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--iopred+Dec 25 2003, 07:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (iopred @ Dec 25 2003, 07:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey, I was reading the changelog, and it says that each marine will start with one grenade (after the upgrade).

    Will it be possible for possible lamers to drop their grenades and have one marine collect them all, and have a crazy grenade run?

    Or, do you start with one grenade, and only have a maximum capacity for one grenade? Meaning that if someone drops their grenade, you can't pick it up...

    Thanks!

    ps. I'm a big fan of the grenades! So I'm just hoping that there is no way to abuse them <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Haha that would be funny, it would be like 1 guy sits at base before you leave you give him ur gren... goes on like that till JP's he gets first JP flies to a hive unloads his 100 grens into all 3 hives and wins!!

    - RD
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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    I'm pretty sure you can't even drop grenades. Besides, this crazy grenade run wouldn't do nearly as much damage as an hmg.
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  • BallistoBallisto Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16503Members
    shotty would do more dmg than an hmg (to a hive) for 5 less res.
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  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Whoa. Sounds like grenades are gonna really suck in 3.x. It should at least be able to kill a smaller alien such as a Skulk or Lerk if it lands next to them - damage similar to the Specialists frag nade. From the look of things right now, I think it's going to degenerate into the same useless PoS that the CS HE nade is.
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  • QwomgQwomg Join Date: 2003-11-29 Member: 23733Members
    look, it's 1 single nade, the size of your hand, it should do serious enough damage to kill something big. if it would, then you got nothing to worry about. besides, the comm only needs to upgrade it once, not like giving equipment every time someone spawns.
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  • ChargeCharge Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13144Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--TommyVercetti+Dec 26 2003, 11:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Dec 26 2003, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Whoa. Sounds like grenades are gonna really suck in 3.x. It should at least be able to kill a smaller alien such as a Skulk or Lerk if it lands next to them - damage similar to the Specialists frag nade. From the look of things right now, I think it's going to degenerate into the same useless PoS that the CS HE nade is. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yeah and lets make the knife have infinite range and make 9999999damage a second?
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  • AngeluszAngelusz Harmonic entropist Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18072Members, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Charge+Dec 26 2003, 03:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Charge @ Dec 26 2003, 03:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--TommyVercetti+Dec 26 2003, 11:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Dec 26 2003, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Whoa. Sounds like grenades are gonna really suck in 3.x. It should at least be able to kill a smaller alien such as a Skulk or Lerk if it lands next to them - damage similar to the Specialists frag nade. From the look of things right now, I think it's going to degenerate into the same useless PoS that the CS HE nade is. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yeah and lets make the knife have infinite range and make 9999999damage a second? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    now that is bullpoo, and you know it.
    The nades are, tbh, quite useless atm.
    I think it'll get fixed sooner or later.. or at least hope so.
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  • BigwigBigwig Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1646Members
    I don't see the problem. Crappy nades are better than no nades at all.
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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    Nades are pretty much what you said, Tommy. I hardly see anyone using them in combat ( and ever even hitting an alien). However, in normal NS, once upgrade, they're quite useful. A large group of marines with grenade is quite nice for, say, attacking that wol or distracting aliens while you build up a phase gate.
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  • GrillkohleGrillkohle Join Date: 2003-12-23 Member: 24695Members, Constellation
    In addition, the handgrenades are one other way to kill alien resource towers faster.
    I think the grenades are not meant to be used against skulks and other alien players, but rather to give small marine groups a better weapon to take down enemy structures (such as WoL, etc.).
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