Gl Anti-onos Weapon Of Choice?

Maveric · December 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">fixed hitboxes and screenies...</div> Well? Are GLs the weapon of choice to use against onii?

I was just thinking that since the GL does a very large amount of damage, effects a area, and the onos is a big and easy target... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

If a onos can die to GL fire faster then HMG fire, i suggest Onii take 3/4s or 1/2 damage from explosives. (also so it can run through those mine fields)

Soberana · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Dec 25 2003, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Well? Are GLs the weapon of choice to use against onii?

I was just thinking that since the GL does a very large amount of damage, effects a area, and the onos is a big and easy target... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

If a onos can die to GL fire faster then HMG fire, i suggest Onii take 3/4s or 1/2 damage from explosives. (also so it can run through those mine fields)  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Too funny <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Forlorn · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Dec 25 2003, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Well? Are GLs the weapon of choice to use against onii?

I was just thinking that since the GL does a very large amount of damage, effects a area, and the onos is a big and easy target... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

If a onos can die to GL fire faster then HMG fire, i suggest Onii take 3/4s or 1/2 damage from explosives. (also so it can run through those mine fields)  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Okay dude... the GL deals about 130 per GL...

The onos has close to 1500 hitpoints in total (counting his armor)...

Now please do the math.

Maveric · December 2003

130 per shot (130 in total <i>seems</i> too low to be correct in "about 130 per GL" Forlorn) x 4 shots = ~500 x 2 gler's = ~1000 damage; correct?

considering that GLers are easy to get in combat, and them probably being near HMGs at the same time means that onii will die very, very quickly. doesn't help the fact that the onos is as big as a barn side, either. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Asal_The_Unforgiving · December 2003

Not so, they are actually fairly useless against the onii themselves, and you see VERY few GL-Onos kills. What you do see though, is a lot of the smaller aliens following nearby, and skulks, lerks, and fades are particularly vulnerable to the massive damage of the grenades, and onos are easy to hit......you don't see a lot of GLs, but they do a LOT in a support role.

Forlorn · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Dec 25 2003, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 130 per shot (130 in total <i>seems</i> too low to be correct in "about 130 per GL" Forlorn) x 4 shots = ~500 x 2 gler's = ~1000 damage; correct?

considering that GLers are easy to get in combat, and them probably being near HMGs at the same time means that onii will die very, very quickly. doesn't help the fact that the onos is as big as a barn side, either. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Hey, here's a small comparison:

Two LMG marines deal 1000 damage to an onos.

Please, the GL sucks against onos.

You regenerate 81 hp every regen tick. You can easily take a beating.

The main worries for the onos is the HMG. It tears up the onos in record time.

remi · December 2003

is hmg better then shotgun?

bigbadbunny · December 2003

only at distance

Redford · December 2003

full carapace calculation ho.

GL does 130 a shot.

Assuming the onos has level 3 carapace, that means 60% goes to armor, or about 70.

Of that, half goes away, or 35. That means each GL grenade does about 70/35, which means the 3.0 onos could withstand about 8 direct hits from the GL.

FueL · December 2003

Depends, really GL's are a big disablility in fighting. As being an onos myself ppl say im an uber onos, and having cilerity u can dodge any grenade. and even ppl with HMGs i would say ppl in NS can't aim for crap (not everybody sux, but most ppl)(im an AG player, go play the mod, don;t ask me what AG is, ull understand if you play it) and with cilerity i can have about a player hit me with 25-75% of the clip, and with regen, i can heal most of it, by that time, that marine is dead or devoured and i gain heal faster making it really damn hard, remember the onos will not stand still for you or run straight at you if he is decent.

Forlorn · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Dec 25 2003, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> full carapace calculation ho.

GL does 130 a shot.

Assuming the onos has level 3 carapace, that means 60% goes to armor, or about 70.

Of that, half goes away, or 35. That means each GL grenade does about 70/35, which means the 3.0 onos could withstand about 8 direct hits from the GL.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Considering you regen as fast as the dude fires the GL, I'd say it takes close to 20 grenades.

This is also like 30 seconds.

If you can't kill him this fast, you deserve to die tbh

Cereal_KillR · December 2003

HMG is the weapon of choice against oni. And don't forget teamwork is key.

LMG just can't be powerful enough against an onos (depending on their number of course)
Shotgun is good at short range only, but you don't want to be near an onos
GL is... a grenade launcher... it's to kill structures and an overall support (ie, not offense) weapon

but teamwork is key anyway

Sops · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Dec 25 2003, 04:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Okay dude... the GL deals about 130 per GL...

The onos has close to 1500 hitpoints in total (counting his armor)...

Now please do the math.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
where do you get 1500 from? onos has 500HP and 150 armor (no upgrades) and armor only takes 30% dmg

Leaderz0rz · December 2003

he was talking about 3.0 onos

Ballisto · December 2003

ive gled a few onos in this patch... i shoot two nades at the exit and two at the onos, a lot of the time they'll catch him as he runs away.

Roger_Dodger · December 2003

The idea is for GL is to be support and i think it fills it nicely it shouldnt and isnt an anti onos weapon.

- RD

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