<!--QuoteBegin--Align+Dec 24 2003, 03:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Dec 24 2003, 03:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Umbraed Monkey+Dec 24 2003, 12:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ Dec 24 2003, 12:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Of course 2 hive lockdowns are bad, but the fear of them brought the team together. Never in 2.0x's have I seen the whole team answer a single call of distress. However, in 1.0x, if ANYONE cries "they are locking down hive <insert hive name here>.", the full force of the alien menace will descend upon that hive in matter of seconds. In contrast, aliens in 2.0x are too buys being 'individuals' and hoarding their res. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That would be because of the PLAYERS, not the VERSION...
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->There are ways to go about locking down hives. Your on quite a broad topic, there isnt much to do in the actual game besides lockdown hives, and get res. Its the ways you go about these things that mattered.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I honestly can't think of a single thing to do different about a 2-hive lockdown[and yet have it work]. Except for "which hive first?". Please enlighten me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Really, what <i>else</i> are you going to do besides lockdown hives and RTs in this game? Not much.
And its the way you go about locking the hive down. Once you get the hive its the same, yes, place the turrets, phase, whatever. But how do you get the hive is the question.
True, when you break NS down to brass tacks, it is all about locking down RT's and Hives. However, the impact of locking down hives has changed greatly (for the better imo) in 2.X. It was far too crippling in 1.X when 2 hives were locked down. As I stated in an earlier post, 1.X Skulks, Lerks, and Gorges had little ability to break down locked hives, especially with redundant TF's and superfluous Turrets. Removing the hive dependency was probably the defining charateristic of 2.X, and why I feel 2.X is a far superior product; bringing the fight to resources rather than trying to cripple one side in hopes of achieving a win. In 2.X, the team with the best plan (skills being equal) will win, not the team that secures two hives first.
<!--QuoteBegin--Keyser59+Dec 22 2003, 08:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Keyser59 @ Dec 22 2003, 08:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm gonna have to say 1.0 because forlorn said 2.0. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And I'm going to have to say my mom. I win.
Without them, it just encourages people to res**** for fade/onos. With the limits, people would be more concerned about getting RTs and getting the hives up ASAP (AKA teamplay).
Hive res. limits would be changed to 40/70/100 to make sure gorges (Who also get the limit) can put up the second hive.
One hive Onos sux! Stomp and devoir sux! Fades warping around like superman sux's! And Alien's being invisible sux. I also dislike the speed increase (Lerks especially) but not as bad as the previous.
I refuse to play Alien’s like this….. My Clan plays very little now and is looking for a new mod.
2.0 is much better for the fact that onos got useful abilities. Heavy trains can actually be stopped in 2.0, making marines much harder. In 1.0 I remember, if you have a pro-com, you'll win 99% of the time. In 2.0, if you have a really good com, it doesn't garuantee your win, which I like.
I think everyone likes 1.04 cuz everyone can own at Marine <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Skillzilla_+Dec 24 2003, 06:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Skillzilla_ @ Dec 24 2003, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think everyone likes 1.04 cuz everyone can own at Marine <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Like you would kno what owning anything is like.
I miss fun maps where the aliens had 3 hives, and the marines were surviving only off a turret farm. And the commander would say "Hero, I want you to take out all their hives" And the commeth would dropeth HMG/JP from the sky. I would take out subspace from the vent, fly away real quick, and then head after port. It was awesome knowing that the commander depended on me, and me alone, to win the game. Using guerrilla tactics, being silent, watching the aliens try and find me after I slaughtered a hive, oh the memories. Sure, it may have not been fair, but it was FUN. Rediculously fun. 2.01 is fun in its own ways too.
But I think 3.0 is the best yet. I promise, you guys won't be dissapointed. All the fun stuff from 1.04 and 2.01 is in 3.0. Having a catpack and a jetpack is just like 1.04 style jetpacking. Sure, you can't HMG hive anymore, but its still good fun.
<!--QuoteBegin--Trayder+Dec 24 2003, 01:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Trayder @ Dec 24 2003, 01:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I believe the game exploits in 1.04 made it so much strategic and better.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> WTH?
<!--QuoteBegin--Rennex+ Dec 25 2003, 01:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rennex @ Dec 25 2003, 01:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Skillzilla_ +Dec 24 2003, 06:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Skillzilla_ @ Dec 24 2003, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think everyone likes 1.04 cuz everyone can own at Marine<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like you would kno what owning anything is like. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1.04 although it had many flaws (bugs mostly) was so much better in my eyes. Res restrictions made you sacrifice yourself to protect the team and the gorge.
I agree jp/hmg has been used alot to get some easy wins but have you ever seen an uberly skilled lerk? Marines don't have a chance against that. Long but NOT boring games is what i want back with some 1.04 elements. Struggling to gain ground, constantly attacking and defending instead of games where the end has already been decided.
2.0x+ has been far more fun in my mind, and it IS because of the lack of such drastic imballance that has done that. Having fun and having a balanced game are far from mutually exclusive.
As for 2.0x+ qualities? The fact that you have a much more diverse alien way of playing, the fact that it's not a one trick pony game any more...makes it more fun for me. It wasn't fun to have losing a gorge being so severe a matter to your team, it wasn't fun for th game to be over in a couple of minutes, it wasn't fun to be completely unable to counter something (which is something that 3.0 has actually encroached back in to compared to 2.01, no doubt a lot of you are saying this is "more fun".
The end of the day, if you prefer balance and/or aliens, you'll find v2+ more fun, if you're a marine fan, you'll enjoy 1.04 more.
I have found, despite certain peoples feelings (funnily they're the ones that enjoyed the nostalgia and absolutely abysmal balance issues that bored so many to tears, even made me give up the game for a while until the new version came out) on 3.0 being the worst yet as being rather odd. I find (a few beta version back) 3.0 to be the most balanced and most fun version of the game yet.
<!--QuoteBegin--niaccurshi+Dec 25 2003, 01:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (niaccurshi @ Dec 25 2003, 01:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it wasn't fun for th game to be over in a couple of minutes,
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The end of the day, if you prefer balance and/or aliens, you'll find v2+ more fun, if you're a marine fan, you'll enjoy 1.04 more. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> nearly all 2.0 games are decided within minutes, it just takes a bit more time for the winning team to finish pwning the losing one. Once you have lost a major battle, you will (nearly) never come back.
I have to say, design-wise, I feel 2.0 is superior. On the other hand, I KNOW I had more fun with the older ns. Maybe this is because I havent experienced that much losses against jp/hmg's and was mostly successful and fending off a 2 hive lockdown. I have to say I liked 1.0x better.
btw, I dont favour either race. I like them both. But due to people always stacking marines (in nearly all versions oddly..) Ive seen ns from the alien's eyes more often than marines. So I see mostly from aliens perspective, and I do enjoy a balanced game. Your generalization is wrong.
I liked 1.04, you could script everything, which set noobs from pros. Man i miss flashlight building, super jetpack, and the machine-pistol <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Im really losing my intrest in ns ever since 2.0 came out, it just cant keep my intrest any more besides the fact that there are so many files to customize :/
Oh and i miss the hive system too, beats the hell out of a onos every 2 minuites after the game gets going. w/o the hive system there is NO teamplay at all for the aliens. Complete screwup removing it.
<!--QuoteBegin--DR_FUZZY+Dec 25 2003, 02:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DR_FUZZY @ Dec 25 2003, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I liked 1.04, you could script everything, which set noobs from pros. Man i miss flashlight building, super jetpack, and the machine-pistol <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Im really losing my intrest in ns ever since 2.0 came out, it just cant keep my intrest any more besides the fact that there are so many files to customize :/
Oh and i miss the hive system too, beats the hell out of a onos every 2 minuites after the game gets going. w/o the hive system there is NO teamplay at all for the aliens. Complete screwup removing it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ROFL
<!--QuoteBegin--DR_FUZZY+Dec 25 2003, 02:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DR_FUZZY @ Dec 25 2003, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I liked 1.04, you could script everything, which set noobs from pros. Man i miss flashlight building, super jetpack, and the machine-pistol <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Im really losing my intrest in ns ever since 2.0 came out, it just cant keep my intrest any more besides the fact that there are so many files to customize :/
Oh and i miss the hive system too, beats the hell out of a onos every 2 minuites after the game gets going. w/o the hive system there is NO teamplay at all for the aliens. Complete screwup removing it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> scripting = pr0 meight tbh irl <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Dec 25 2003, 04:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Dec 25 2003, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DR_FUZZY+Dec 25 2003, 02:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DR_FUZZY @ Dec 25 2003, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I liked 1.04, you could script everything, which set noobs from pros. Man i miss flashlight building, super jetpack, and the machine-pistol <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Im really losing my intrest in ns ever since 2.0 came out, it just cant keep my intrest any more besides the fact that there are so many files to customize :/
Oh and i miss the hive system too, beats the hell out of a onos every 2 minuites after the game gets going. w/o the hive system there is NO teamplay at all for the aliens. Complete screwup removing it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ROFL <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Haf.
I liked 1.04 because I could build super fast with my l337 Radeon. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Actually, NS 2.01 is better... however, 3.0 is going to pwn when it's completed. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
1.04 gave some crazy games, and was fairly well balanced against 2 teams that had played each other many times. However, unless the marines had their stuff together, or the aliens got disorganized, the marines would be contained until 2 hives went up, and then ruthlessly crushed.
2.0x's Commander Mode is infinitely better than 1.0x!
<!--QuoteBegin--Speed 2 Dave+Dec 31 2003, 02:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Speed 2 Dave @ Dec 31 2003, 02:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1.04 gave some crazy games, and was fairly well balanced against 2 teams that had played each other many times. However, unless the marines had their stuff together, or the aliens got disorganized, the marines would be contained until 2 hives went up, and then ruthlessly crushed.
2.0x's Commander Mode is infinitely better than 1.0x! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No way!
I loved how I could control buttons, and close doors behind my marines.
I like the old comm system <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin--§ethTheMedic.+Dec 31 2003, 04:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (§ethTheMedic. @ Dec 31 2003, 04:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I loved how I could control buttons, and close doors behind my marines.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You still can...
1.04 was the one that got me started chasing the golden dragon I call NS...
So on that point, 1.04 has much of my favor since it was the first impression I had of NS, and the most nostalgic one at that.
But 2.0 took it to a different place, one that required teamwork unlike any games I've played to date.
Granted, I was fortunate to find a few servers that had really solid admins and great regulars (TeamHoward and Chitown Freeze) and with those servers I've had great solid games.
But in that sense, I can see the weakness of 2.0 being with players who don't know what they're doing, but thats more of a community issue really, the game has always been pretty steep on the learning curve in both versions.
Overall, 2.01 is more solid, and with vet. players more intense. 1.04 had longer matches that were more friendly to those new to the game.
Plus I really, really miss the mines from 1.04 with the lasers. Loved it when the aliens opened the doors on eclipse at marine start and saw nothing but lasers and turrets facing it down. And the jetpacks are not as fun in 2.0.
But overall, 2.0 is a better game.
2.01 is the most balanced, with the most strats allowed overall, the main deciding factor being the players, as I think the game is intended. It allows more variety with those who know how to play, and the games are at a higher pace overall.
1.04 was fun, but was a flawed and unbalanced game that happened to be off the wall fun nonetheless.
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That would be because of the PLAYERS, not the VERSION...
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->There are ways to go about locking down hives. Your on quite a broad topic, there isnt much to do in the actual game besides lockdown hives, and get res. Its the ways you go about these things that mattered.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I honestly can't think of a single thing to do different about a 2-hive lockdown[and yet have it work]. Except for "which hive first?". Please enlighten me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Really, what <i>else</i> are you going to do besides lockdown hives and RTs in this game? Not much.
And its the way you go about locking the hive down. Once you get the hive its the same, yes, place the turrets, phase, whatever. But how do you get the hive is the question.
And I'm going to have to say my mom. I win.
Without them, it just encourages people to res**** for fade/onos.
With the limits, people would be more concerned about getting RTs and getting the hives up ASAP (AKA teamplay).
Hive res. limits would be changed to 40/70/100 to make sure gorges (Who also get the limit) can put up the second hive.
One hive Onos sux! Stomp and devoir sux! Fades warping around like superman sux's! And Alien's being invisible sux. I also dislike the speed increase (Lerks especially) but not as bad as the previous.
I refuse to play Alien’s like this….. My Clan plays very little now and is looking for a new mod.
Flame On! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Like you would kno what owning anything is like.
that AmEN guy or whatever (forgot your name) said what i was thinking
But I think 3.0 is the best yet. I promise, you guys won't be dissapointed. All the fun stuff from 1.04 and 2.01 is in 3.0. Having a catpack and a jetpack is just like 1.04 style jetpacking. Sure, you can't HMG hive anymore, but its still good fun.
WTH?
<!--QuoteBegin--Rennex+ Dec 25 2003, 01:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rennex @ Dec 25 2003, 01:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Skillzilla_ +Dec 24 2003, 06:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Skillzilla_ @ Dec 24 2003, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
I think everyone likes 1.04 cuz everyone can own at Marine<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like you would kno what owning anything is like. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well I guess that would be his point actually.
Res restrictions made you sacrifice yourself to protect the team and the gorge.
I agree jp/hmg has been used alot to get some easy wins but have you ever seen an uberly skilled lerk?
Marines don't have a chance against that.
Long but NOT boring games is what i want back with some 1.04 elements.
Struggling to gain ground, constantly attacking and defending instead of games where the end has already been decided.
As for 2.0x+ qualities? The fact that you have a much more diverse alien way of playing, the fact that it's not a one trick pony game any more...makes it more fun for me. It wasn't fun to have losing a gorge being so severe a matter to your team, it wasn't fun for th game to be over in a couple of minutes, it wasn't fun to be completely unable to counter something (which is something that 3.0 has actually encroached back in to compared to 2.01, no doubt a lot of you are saying this is "more fun".
The end of the day, if you prefer balance and/or aliens, you'll find v2+ more fun, if you're a marine fan, you'll enjoy 1.04 more.
I have found, despite certain peoples feelings (funnily they're the ones that enjoyed the nostalgia and absolutely abysmal balance issues that bored so many to tears, even made me give up the game for a while until the new version came out) on 3.0 being the worst yet as being rather odd. I find (a few beta version back) 3.0 to be the most balanced and most fun version of the game yet.
-Lee
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The end of the day, if you prefer balance and/or aliens, you'll find v2+ more fun, if you're a marine fan, you'll enjoy 1.04 more. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
nearly all 2.0 games are decided within minutes, it just takes a bit more time for the winning team to finish pwning the losing one. Once you have lost a major battle, you will (nearly) never come back.
I have to say, design-wise, I feel 2.0 is superior. On the other hand, I KNOW I had more fun with the older ns. Maybe this is because I havent experienced that much losses against jp/hmg's and was mostly successful and fending off a 2 hive lockdown. I have to say I liked 1.0x better.
btw, I dont favour either race. I like them both. But due to people always stacking marines (in nearly all versions oddly..) Ive seen ns from the alien's eyes more often than marines. So I see mostly from aliens perspective, and I do enjoy a balanced game. Your generalization is wrong.
Im really losing my intrest in ns ever since 2.0 came out, it just cant keep my intrest any more besides the fact that there are so many files to customize :/
Oh and i miss the hive system too, beats the hell out of a onos every 2 minuites after the game gets going. w/o the hive system there is NO teamplay at all for the aliens. Complete screwup removing it.
Im really losing my intrest in ns ever since 2.0 came out, it just cant keep my intrest any more besides the fact that there are so many files to customize :/
Oh and i miss the hive system too, beats the hell out of a onos every 2 minuites after the game gets going. w/o the hive system there is NO teamplay at all for the aliens. Complete screwup removing it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ROFL
Im really losing my intrest in ns ever since 2.0 came out, it just cant keep my intrest any more besides the fact that there are so many files to customize :/
Oh and i miss the hive system too, beats the hell out of a onos every 2 minuites after the game gets going. w/o the hive system there is NO teamplay at all for the aliens. Complete screwup removing it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
scripting = pr0 meight tbh irl <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
Im really losing my intrest in ns ever since 2.0 came out, it just cant keep my intrest any more besides the fact that there are so many files to customize :/
Oh and i miss the hive system too, beats the hell out of a onos every 2 minuites after the game gets going. w/o the hive system there is NO teamplay at all for the aliens. Complete screwup removing it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ROFL <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Haf.
BEta 7.2 was teh best imoh tbh!!!!!11111oneoneoneoneoneone
Actually, NS 2.01 is better... however, 3.0 is going to pwn when it's completed. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
2.0x's Commander Mode is infinitely better than 1.0x!
2.0x's Commander Mode is infinitely better than 1.0x! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No way!
I loved how I could control buttons, and close doors behind my marines.
I like the old comm system <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
You still can...
So on that point, 1.04 has much of my favor since it was the first impression I had of NS, and the most nostalgic one at that.
But 2.0 took it to a different place, one that required teamwork unlike any games I've played to date.
Granted, I was fortunate to find a few servers that had really solid admins and great regulars (TeamHoward and Chitown Freeze) and with those servers I've had great solid games.
But in that sense, I can see the weakness of 2.0 being with players who don't know what they're doing, but thats more of a community issue really, the game has always been pretty steep on the learning curve in both versions.
Overall, 2.01 is more solid, and with vet. players more intense.
1.04 had longer matches that were more friendly to those new to the game.
Plus I really, really miss the mines from 1.04 with the lasers. Loved it when the aliens opened the doors on eclipse at marine start and saw nothing but lasers and turrets facing it down. And the jetpacks are not as fun in 2.0.
But overall, 2.0 is a better game.
2.01 is the most balanced, with the most strats allowed overall, the main deciding factor being the players, as I think the game is intended. It allows more variety with those who know how to play, and the games are at a higher pace overall.
1.04 was fun, but was a flawed and unbalanced game that happened to be off the wall fun nonetheless.