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Join Date: 2003-08-23 Member: 20098Members
Join Date: 2003-08-23 Member: 20098Members
<div class="IPBDescription">and their lovely literature</div> The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has an interesting new leaflet. This new piece of literature shows how your mother is evil and that she enjoys murdering cute little animals.
<a href='http://www.peta.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.peta.com/</a>
Check it out, and discuss.
My Opinion.
When you are trying to get people to agree with you, which PETA is, shouldn't you AVOID ticking them off? I wonder how many people this will offend.
(If I sound biased, guess what, I AM.)
Edit: My favorite part from the site
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"Lots of wonderful foxes, raccoons, and other animals are kept by mean farmers who squish them into cages so small that they can hardly move. They never get to play or swim or have fun. All they can do is cry-just so your greedy mommy can have that fur coat to show off in when she walks the streets." <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.peta.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.peta.com/</a>
Check it out, and discuss.
My Opinion.
When you are trying to get people to agree with you, which PETA is, shouldn't you AVOID ticking them off? I wonder how many people this will offend.
(If I sound biased, guess what, I AM.)
Edit: My favorite part from the site
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"Lots of wonderful foxes, raccoons, and other animals are kept by mean farmers who squish them into cages so small that they can hardly move. They never get to play or swim or have fun. All they can do is cry-just so your greedy mommy can have that fur coat to show off in when she walks the streets." <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Comments
Yeah? So? I do too. And ya know what? I enjoy it.
The PETA people are funny. It's next to impossible to take them seriously when so much of their propaganda involves non-sensical BS and childish name calling.
While I can agree that stock animals should be housed and slaughtered differently due to heath concerns, some of this is just pure lunacy.
I mean, if I am out in the wilderness hunting and an endangered predator decides to make lunch out of me according to PETA I'm supposed to roll over and die. This is because fighting back could harm the special creature. If a hungry bear and a equally hungry tiger met each other, do you honestly believe one's going to care that the other is an endangered species? What about a Great White shark and a rare crocodile?
Occasionally I believe the more militant PETA people should be thrown into a cage with hungry lions much like the games in ancient Rome. ...and take the tofu with them.
I don't like tofu...
I remember the activists that released animals from a fur coat farm. The animals went on a rampage and killed more local livestock and pets than these activists tried to save. I don't know what happened to the animals, but I imagine they were killed in some fashion. Animal rights activist have a habbit of releasing caged animals into the wild; thusly dooming the animal to a short life, as they have lived their life in captivity and have nothing but instict to go on.
all spelling errors are for artistic value.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"Lots of wonderful foxes, raccoons, and other animals are kept by mean farmers who squish them into cages so small that they can hardly move. They never get to play or swim or have fun. All they can do is cry-just so your greedy mommy can have that fur coat to show off in when she walks the streets." <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What exactly is wrong with that statement? Killing animals for vanity IS wrong. And if you think otherwise, then my opinion is that you must be the most hartless **** alive.
Killing animals for food or self defense is one thing, but for clothing you don't even need?
What exactly is wrong with that statement? Killing animals for vanity IS wrong. And if you think otherwise, then my opinion is that you must be the most hartless **** alive.
Killing animals for food or self defense is one thing, but for clothing you don't even need? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What's wrong with the statement is defamation of character.
My mother does not own any furs and has no desire for them. Yet, you could infer she has been called greedy, bloodthirsty, and cruel by this statement.
Killing for vanity is wrong, unethical and painful caging is also wrong, but defamation of character is not a good means of getting a point across.
Isn't nature's plan great?
What exactly is wrong with that statement? Killing animals for vanity IS wrong. And if you think otherwise, then my opinion is that you must be the most hartless **** alive.
Killing animals for food or self defense is one thing, but for clothing you don't even need? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What's wrong with the statement is defamation of character.
My mother does not own any furs and has no desire for them. Yet, you could infer she has been called greedy, bloodthirsty, and cruel by this statement.
Killing for vanity is wrong, unethical and painful caging is also wrong, but defamation of character is not a good means of getting a point across. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm pretty sure that its aimed at kids who have mothers who have fur.
Isn't nature's plan great? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just remember that when you spook that Grizly while its showing its cubs how to fish.
If they would cooperate and join paws to form a coat we wouldn't have to skin them.
Do the same people crying out at this injustice look at a wolf tearing into a deer's living guts as
it bleats in pain and say "ahh... the beauty of nature"? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
My moms dead...the rabbits got her first....
Honestly how do they expect anyone to take them seriously, that looks like a picture for the front page of the onion, not a web site supposedly campaigning for some cause....or whatever their doing. The person who thought that up should be skinned alive and made into a human coat...I would wear it... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
No rational adult would take PETA seriously, that is why they were handing these pamlets to children
I'm pretty sure that its aimed at kids who have mothers who have fur. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
And that's also wrong. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"Lots of wonderful foxes, raccoons, and other animals are kept by mean farmers who squish them into cages so small that they can hardly move. They never get to play or swim or have fun. All they can do is cry-just so your greedy mommy can have that fur coat to show off in when she walks the streets." <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What exactly is wrong with that statement? Killing animals for vanity IS wrong. And if you think otherwise, then my opinion is that you must be the most hartless **** alive.
Killing animals for food or self defense is one thing, but for clothing you don't even need? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, for one, the lines I quoted I thought were quite amusing.
Two, fur trapping and hunting animals for their is an honorable business in my opinion. Some people in the northern areas and only make a living off of such trade.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And if you think otherwise, then my opinion is that you must be the most hartless **** alive.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just because I could care less about a couple rabbits that get chopped up and made into a hat doesn't make me "hartless."
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Assumption is the mother of all **** ups<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Name the movie and win a cookie.
I do have a pretty cold demeanor, but that's because I look around me and I see people crying over stupid things like animals getting killed for such things as the fur trade and other things. Frankly, it makes me mad that people get all hissy over something so trivial.
And to add to it, I'm a trophy Deer hunter. My biggest harvest was a 10 point buck. I'm also a big game fisherman, 4 foot 3 inch, 43lb Muskellunge being my largest catch. I have that fish mounted over my PC moniter and the deer's rack over our entertainment center.
I want to photograph them and mail the images to PETA.
it bleats in pain and say "ahh... the beauty of nature"? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats different, the wolf needs to eat the dear to live. Some rich white **** does not need a fur coat to live.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Just because I could care less about a couple rabbits that get chopped up and made into a hat doesn't make me "hartless."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes it does, you have no empathy for the suffering of annother living thing. You == hartless.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Assumption is the mother of all **** ups<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Name the movie and win a cookie.
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Under Siege 2: Dark Territory. You owe me a cookie.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I do have a pretty cold demeanor, but that's because I look around me and I see people crying over stupid things like animals getting killed for such things as the fur trade and other things. Frankly, it makes me mad that people get all hissy over something so trivial.
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Funny, aren't you the one getting all 'hissy' over what PETA is doing? It seems awefully trivial to me...
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And to add to it, I'm a trophy Deer hunter. My biggest harvest was a 10 point buck. I'm also a big game fisherman, 4 foot 3 inch, 43lb Muskellunge being my largest catch. I have that fish mounted over my PC moniter and the deer's rack over our entertainment center.
I want to photograph them and mail the images to PETA.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If only serial killers did the same with their victims!
Trophy dear hunter. You are the vary definition of hartless, you kill a harmless, relatively defenseless dear so you can show people you have a bigger shlong then them because you found the one with more points.
Hunting endangered animals for their pelts isn't really on, I agree with that. But looking at the situation we have in Australia, you can see why there are quite a few animal skin products on the market. We have rabbits in epidemic numbers. We have far too many foxes (the proper number here is 0). They were introduced here by European settlers and the buggers have no natural enemies, plus they turn regions in desert. We shoot as many of these pests as we can, and good riddance to them. Now we have a whole heap of rabbit and fox skins (plus rabbit meat which makes some great pet food, my cat can attest to that). It makes sense to try and do something with all this fur, same way cow hides are turned into leather when the farm animals are killed for their meat.
Now if we take PETA's view and don't kill these lovely, furry little cute animals, not only would an absolute truckload of Australian animals be wiped out, but out natural ecology would be devestated. Our agricultural communities would be devestated (and this includes farmers who grow things like wheat, corn and rice, so not just those mean meat farmers). Now I don't support killing koalas for their skins, because koalas numbers are a little low (thanks to feral cats, dogs and foxes I might add) and there's just no reason to kill them. Kangaroos are a differant matter; we've got a few too many of them as well.
You have to try and find a balance. Don't hunt endangered species like leopards or tigers for their skins, but when it comes to creatures that need to be harvested, you might as well use all the products. That's ecologically sound.
And as a side note, taking a line from Terry Pratchett, it's worth mentioning that when people go around throwing buckets of paint over people wearing animal skins, they never do this to Hell's Angels <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Good reason for that.... ok, 2 good reasons.
The obvious: They don't want to die.
2: Cows aren't raised for their hide, its just a byproduct of raising them for food.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thats different, the wolf needs to eat the dear to live. Some rich white **** does not need a fur coat to live.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's d-e-e-r. "There's nothing dear about a deer because a deer holds nothing dear." Not neccesarily true but it shows the proper usage.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yes it does, you have no empathy for the suffering of annother living thing. You == hartless.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As long as he cares about <b>any living being other than himself</b>, he's not heartless. Caring about <b>all</b> living beings is not a requirement.
I could care less about a dust mite, and I'm sure you don't cry for the hundreds of deaths you cause every day just by the act of breathing when you can remedy it.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If only serial killers did the same with their victims!
Trophy dear hunter. You are the vary definition of hartless, you kill a harmless, relatively defenseless dear so you can show people you have a bigger shlong then them because you found the one with more points.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sometimes they do. *shudders*
He is doing deer a service. I know that in many states there are little to no natural predators to keep the deer population in check...except humans. The point that some naturalist can't seem to realize is that we are a natural predator! If we discontinue a controlled hunting program:
1. There will be an overpopulation of deer.
2. There will be a lack of food for the deer.
3. The population as a whole will grow diseased as there will be no capacity for natural isolation.
4. The deer will die whether it be by the spread of disease or hunger.
5. The deer will become incredibly scarce, and be another endangered species to look after until the next population boom.
Heh, I hunt too. Mostly rock dove, squirrel, and deer.
I've killed quite a few deer, and each time I've had deer meat for dinner for the next few months. It's lean tasty meat that is a hell of a lot better for you than your local shopping center's beef.
At the same time I have a pet rat that I love to death, two horses, seven cats, a really stupid standard poodle, and a beloved family. So am I heartless?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thats different, the wolf needs to eat the dear to live. Some rich white **** does not need a fur coat to live.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's d-e-e-r. "There's nothing dear about a deer because a deer holds nothing dear." Not neccesarily true but it shows the proper usage.
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Fine, attack my spelling. You still owe me a cookie.
<span style='color:white'>I'd suggest you try not to compare others to nazis around here.</span>
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I could care less about a dust mite, and I'm sure you don't cry for the hundreds of deaths you cause every day just by the act of breathing when you can remedy it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Poor choice of wording on my part, what do you expect for me when I'm **** off? I should have specified Animals. But, besides that, it still is covered by the self-defense exception, if I stop breathing, I die.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sometimes they do. *shudders*<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And I find what you do to be no less sickening.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->He is doing deer a service. I know that in many states there are little to no natural predators to keep the deer population in check...except humans. The point that some naturalist can't seem to realize is that we are a natural predator! If we discontinue a controlled hunting program:
1. There will be an overpopulation of deer.
2. There will be a lack of food for the deer.
3. The population as a whole will grow diseased as there will be no capacity for natural isolation.
4. The deer will die whether it be by the spread of disease or hunger.
5. The deer will become incredibly scarce, and be another endangered species to look after until the next population boom.
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Those are very good reasons to trim the human population. They're more fun to hunt too.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So am I heartless?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In my opinion? Yes, yes you are.
Lets hope.
Sure thing. But I don't owe you a cookie, different person. Ya gotta stay with me Jimbo. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Funny, I'm sure some Nazis cared for other living beings then themselves, just not jews (or russians). So that makes them not heartless right?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mislead, evil, maniacal, bloodthirsty, cruel...yes. Heartless? Maybe some, but not all. Many believed what they were doing at the time would honestly protect their families and friends.
What occured was a true tragedy, not to be compared with something as menial as a fisherman catching a world record bass and deciding to mount it.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Poor choice of wording on my part, what do you expect for me when I'm **** off? I should have specified Animals. But, besides that, it still is covered by the self-defense exception, if I stop breathing, I die.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well I don't expect you to get ****ed off. In a discussion, anger shows a lowered mental fortitude with respect to the subject matter and often leads to irrational behavior. This is not at all useful when attempting to prove a point, or defend a stance.
But the question is now, why specify animals? Are not insects alive? They certainly communicate and show fear and anger...two basic emotions. I have a friend who swears up and down his tarantula shows love. Now that we've gone that far what about plants? They react to touch, and there is no doubt about them being made up of living tissue.
Is it not a vision of cruelty to see a kid with a magnifying glass roasting ants and various other insects in the noon day sun? What about the same child tearing one wing off a once beautiful butterfly and throwing it into the air?
I think it's cruel. Do you?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And I find what you do to be no less sickening.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm sure if I knew your eating habits the feeling would be mutual.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Those are very good reasons to trim the human population. They're more fun to hunt too.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What I hunt, I do not waste. That means more often than not that I eat what I hunt....and I don't eat human. Makes you sick after a while. Besides there's that whole morality....thing. I'm sure it would make for some interesting trophy hunting, but I'm not a trophy hunter. That other guy is, Jimbo. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In my opinion? Yes, yes you are.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know many people, animals, insects, and plants that would say differently if they could. Your opinion is your own, and I'm terribly sorry you feel that way.
Sure thing. But I don't owe you a cookie, different person. Ya gotta stay with me Jimbo. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Thatas what I get for posting so fast. But he still owes me a cookie.
The leaflet is misguided, and unessecary. There are ethical guidelines about targeting advertising products at children (particularly with regards to "pester power"), advertising a lifestyle should be no different. Let the child grow up to make an informed choice for themselves, or appeal to them at that point. Targeting children in this way is just repugnant.
Oh, I'm not challenging that. He best give you a cookie!
Actually Hitler put some animal's rights before human's rights, but that is a a mute point. You have invoked Godwin's law and automatically lose the arguement <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I have no problems with hunters as long as they use the animal for its meat and not just a trophey. Poaching endangered species is wrong, and should have a harsher punishment.
Because I do not consider wall decoration to be a valid use of animal parts, I do not condone trophy hunting. However, the trophy hunters that make good use of the meat (my favorites are the ones that donate it to the poor), are easily the least of our problems.
We need to kill deer. They are rediculously overpopulated in many areas (where I live for instance) and need to be killed. If someone has fun doing it than so much the better. Otherwise we would have to pay someone to do it. Seriously, what better use is there for a deer's head than to put on a wall? (Besides bleaching the skull and using it as a cool prop for halloween)
Also, with that buck, I did mount the head as a trophy, but also used the meat for venisin and sent that to friends.
And why, may I ask, why did you NOT care about the muskellunge? The muskellunge, along with other members of the Pike family except for pike themselves, are becoming rather scarce these days.
Oh yea, I know now, these fish are STOCKED in the lake. Deer around here have also seen a population explosion as well.
Oh yea, I've shot a bear before. I was only 15. I'm grew up into such an evil person didn't I? Wait a tic, my girlfriend and her friend were in a van and a black bear was pounding on the window. My uncle did have a shotgun, but at the range he was at, it would have done more harm than good. So I picked up his 7 mag. It took 3 shots to kill that bear. That's what I get for living out in the sticks. True story. That bear's life is means less to me than my friends.
I agree that hunting of endangered species is wrong, but to be put-down for hunting a creature as plentiful as deer is just plain silly.
I find it almost hypocritical that most of the people that are animal rights activists that accuse hunters and anglers of being murders DO NOT live out in the rural, forested areas which the hunters and anglers do.
Oh yea, and just for giggles
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Save a cow, Eat a vegitarian<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
@Skulkbait, My mother just finished a batch of cookies. Sugar or Chocolate chip?