Good Points....please Read, No Laming

Salvation_r2Salvation_r2 Join Date: 2003-11-26 Member: 23606Members
edited December 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Please Sir! take a cup of SUYF!</div> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> First off this is about the balance "issiuse" about NS:C becouse NS is fine as most people see it(that i have talked to, and i also think it is balenced) I am really tried of people not being able to deal with some change. when in the long run, it is better. The only reson that the onos is considerd "over powering" is the fact that people in pubs are greedy, and don't want to "waste" a level on a welder to weld the cc and ammory(s) they wanna have level 3 shotties. I am not say that in what game or another have not done this. This is one reson why marines lose though in NS:C. The Hive heals itself over time. So the aliens just keep you alway from it, or they lose. the marines have to keep aliens away and heal it themself. Yes each team needs some teamwork, But overall marines to need more. And pubs are sad becouse all i hear is when the aliens get the first onos is " OMG onos!!11 RUN FOR YOUR LIVES" kinda thing. In 2.1 i think it was also balanced. Sure there are still soem kinks to work out is 3.0. For example in 2.1 a solo marine with a hmg, and lv 2/3 could take a onos down in seconds. That made that 100res guy kinda not whorth 100res. Now It takes 2 Hmg's level 2/3 guns a good few seconds. But what happends when you keep adding on to people are shooting at "one" target. By everyone fouceing on one target at a time. They die every fast, making it hard for them to get xp. And a un upgraded onos are not that great. but can still do some damage. But non the less, then you have More then 3 onos it can get over powering, right? I am sure everyone can think that. But should you have let them get that much xp in the first place? Hell no! if marines stay together in packs, working together, you level MUCH faster. and live much longer. Sure in pubs there is ganna be that one "nub" that doesn't do anything for the team, just himself, but he will just keep giving the aliens xp and not getting any.(evently leading to marine doom depending on how the team is doing) So by the time the aliens start getting new things, you should be getting better things. the key is to always be one or more step ahead. The more the easyer your hopeful winning game wil be. Also About "fouce, invible ****" if you stay together noone should die. non the less every now and then they will get you, but they should not take out the whole team.Anyway i think i made my point and i am kinda tried of typeing a bit, so, no lamers annying me.

GL, HF, Later

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  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    edited December 2003
    **Ok ok, it's gone, but I still think the same**
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    Ok....where to begin ?

    How about you need those level 3 shotties to kill onos, or no amount of welding is gonna help ? Onos is slightly overpowered ATM because they can come out far too early to handle.

    The game ATM revolves around when that first onos comes out and when marines get JPs. Those are the two critical moments of the game. If an onos comes out too early its GG aliens. If however the onos come out later and the marines can handle them its only a matter of time until kamikazi JPs kill the hive, ironically enough because of it's slow heal time which you say is the alien's team salvation.
  • StraitShotStraitShot Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24398Members
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--JezPuh+Dec 16 2003, 10:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Dec 16 2003, 10:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I never expected a vetran to make so many smilies.. (wich makes YOU look stupid and the thread look DUMB) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It also makes YOU look DUMB by saying he`s DUMB without actually replying to his post, or atleast trying to prove his post wrong. I can`t really give my opnion on the matter, but from what I read in his post is that the onos is over powering.
  • Fog_cartoonsFog_cartoons Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20658Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--StraitShot+Dec 16 2003, 03:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StraitShot @ Dec 16 2003, 03:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--JezPuh+Dec 16 2003, 10:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Dec 16 2003, 10:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I never expected a vetran to make so many smilies.. (wich makes YOU look stupid and the thread look DUMB) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It also makes YOU look DUMB by saying he`s DUMB without actually replying to his post, or atleast trying to prove his post wrong. I can`t really give my opnion on the matter, but from what I read in his post is that the onos is over powering. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is the second time i have had to quote you in less than 5 minutes, Jezpuh, just don't bother if you have nothing decent to say
  • Minstrel_KnightMinstrel_Knight The truth and nothing but the truth... Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9562Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--JezPuh+Dec 16 2003, 10:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Dec 16 2003, 10:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I never expected a vetran to make so many smilies.. (wich makes YOU look stupid and the thread look DUMB) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well there are veterans and the Veterans.
  • StoneburgStoneburg Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8174Members
    I would like to reply to the post but I didn't get past the two first sentences. Please use paragraphs (and a spellchecker wouldn't kill you either;) ), it makes it a lot easier to read.
  • SchmeebisSchmeebis Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23782Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Minstrel Knight+Dec 16 2003, 11:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Minstrel Knight @ Dec 16 2003, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--JezPuh+Dec 16 2003, 10:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Dec 16 2003, 10:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I never expected a vetran to make so many smilies.. (wich makes YOU look stupid and the thread look DUMB) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well there are veterans and the Veterans. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Then there are Veterans who aren't veterans, yet are Veterans without the Veteran tag. Bleh.

    Anyway, that was a cool Feedwater relocation you had last night on Bast. Too bad that is the worst map in the cycle, and has been since 1.xx.

    I have an idea! I will design a map where the only ways out of the marine base are comprised by ladders and easily-ambushed rotating elevators! This will be great, since maneuverability is the marine's forte! Bleh x 2.
  • StraitShotStraitShot Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24398Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Stoneburg+Dec 16 2003, 11:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stoneburg @ Dec 16 2003, 11:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would like to reply to the post but I didn't get past the two first sentences. Please use paragraphs (and a spellchecker wouldn't kill you either;) ), it makes it a lot easier to read. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I`d have to agree with you but English may not be his first language.
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    And another thread heads to off-topic land...
  • Salvation_r2Salvation_r2 Join Date: 2003-11-26 Member: 23606Members
    edited December 2003
    i never said onos are not over powered, and then you implied that i do not desve the vet icon just becouse i used the smiliis as a example.....maybe its not me who is being "dumb"

    i simply stated yes, we know they might be a little over powered, but then you use teamwork, they are easly defeated, i seen them go down all the time in a few secs before damage can be done to the cc

    also becouse people are always saying "They Give Vet status to anyone these days." Or "Some People Don't desive Vet status" Then you are implying that some/most or w/e the hell you mean, basicly suck. yet, your the ones that can't teamplay(this is not all of you, but i have seen a majory of people do this.) and then you think becouse you have a coni incon your any bit better?

    when really they just give it to however can play 20+ bucks.....(some people i do like in the coni and i am glad they did it, so i can play with them, i love playing at night, as all the little whiny kids are asleep, or maybe it is just me, but i notic gameplay is sooo much better when playing in the late hours of night, witch i do everynight)

    i wasn't hear to agrue over who is better then the other....i was here to lission to some other opions, but since you had to be a cs nub, i had the state the above witch maybe wasn't the great/smarts thing. but i am tried of the comments like little 6 year old(i know i acted like it for 4 secs)

    anyway, try to be freildyer in the furter instead of laming it :\

    LOL, and about the english and how bad i spell, well i can't spell nor do i care/make a attempt to try and do it right, sorry for the trouble

    also i can agree in some states that their are some people that do deserv the vet status and some who don't, i think i deserv it, i scrim a few times each week(i wish more only becouse i like it) i have a good attiuide toward non lamers, but some i can't stand and i need to try and stay away from that kinda. and i do my part in a game, and have fun with others
  • WitherWither A Bugged Life Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11513Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    Dude...there's a veteran forum for this. This is general discussion. You're commenting on a beta that most of the people posting in here, aren't even playing.
  • Salvation_r2Salvation_r2 Join Date: 2003-11-26 Member: 23606Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Wither+Dec 16 2003, 11:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wither @ Dec 16 2003, 11:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dude...there's a veteran forum for this. This is general discussion. You're commenting on a beta that most of the people posting in here, aren't even playing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    sorry, i just thought some others should hear some resons onos might be so high in health.

    ::edit:: i fixed the over smili sorry i over did it::edit::
  • StoneburgStoneburg Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8174Members
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--StraitShot+Dec 16 2003, 11:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StraitShot @ Dec 16 2003, 11:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Stoneburg+Dec 16 2003, 11:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stoneburg @ Dec 16 2003, 11:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would like to reply to the post but I didn't get past the two first sentences. Please use paragraphs (and a spellchecker wouldn't kill you either;) ), it makes it a lot easier to read. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I`d have to agree with you but English may not be his first language. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    English isn't my first language either, but I wasn't complaining mainly about grammar or spelling, it was the lack of paragraphs that made it unreadable (which are used in all languages that use Latin or Kyrillic alphabets I think). Since his later post is much better in that aspect it must have helped. Now if only he would edit the OP... *hint* *hint* <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Salvation_r2Salvation_r2 Join Date: 2003-11-26 Member: 23606Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Stoneburg+Dec 16 2003, 11:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stoneburg @ Dec 16 2003, 11:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--StraitShot+Dec 16 2003, 11:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StraitShot @ Dec 16 2003, 11:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Stoneburg+Dec 16 2003, 11:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stoneburg @ Dec 16 2003, 11:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would like to reply to the post but I didn't get past the two first sentences. Please use paragraphs (and a spellchecker wouldn't kill you either;) ), it makes it a lot easier to read. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I`d have to agree with you but English may not be his first language. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    English isn't my first language either, but I wasn't complaining about grammar or spelling, it was the lack of paragraphs (which are used in all languages that use Latin or Kyrillic alphabets I think). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    the sad then is...it is my "first" langue,

    sorry i will try and be better about that =)
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Salvation.r2+Dec 16 2003, 11:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Salvation.r2 @ Dec 16 2003, 11:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and about the english and how bad i spell, well i can't spell nor do i care/make a attempt to try and do it right, sorry for the trouble

    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is the saddest part of all your posts.
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