Will Ns Overtake Tfc

Flash · December 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">when it's officially supported in Steam.</div> Counter-Strike..........................54741 players
Day of Defeat..............................2658 players
Team Fortress Classic.................1500 players
Natural Selection.........................1108 players

I just got those figures off <a href='http://www.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=15&s=1' target='_blank'>http://www.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=15&s=1</a>

TFC has been included in HL patches for years (Not sure why <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'> ) when NS gets similar status as an official steam game do you think it will see a jump in player numbers?

It can only be a good thing for this amazing mod to get new blood, and making it a double click away in your taskbar should do that.
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Snidely · December 2003

I think it may overtake TFC for a while after 3.0's release, then the numbers will go down again and TFC will move back into third place for a while.

Phin · December 2003

Does that include both Steam and WON players? But yeah, I think it'll pass TFC in popularity and perhaps rival DoD for the 2nd most played MOD for HL.

XCan · December 2003

TFC is nearly as braindead as CS and unfortunetly most computer players are kids who are stupid and braindead so I doubt it.

meatball · December 2003

I belive that it will be like when 2.0 was released and suddendly there was alot of new players, but some weeks later most of them dissaperd (back to CS probably <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> ) .
there will shurely be some that stay with ns and hopefully more will stay and learn to play ns than when 2.0 was released.

Epidemic · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XCan @ Dec 15 2003, 12:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> TFC is nearly as braindead as CS and unfortunetly most computer players are kids who are stupid and braindead so I doubt it.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Indeed it's brainless, but that's the beauty, it's actually a pretty good game

DramaKing · December 2003

no, it wont.

Rotten_Flesh · December 2003

NS must beat *evil* CS!

DIE CS DIE <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

That_Annoying_Kid · December 2003

In my humble oppion NS has grow leaps and bounds since it's conception, and will stay at the forefront of HL mods for some time to come

Muttonchops · December 2003

You forgot to mention that NS has already beat DMC which is a Valve supported mod.
Anyways on topic when NS goes Steam it still won't be supported by Vavle so I doubt it will increase dramatically.
Still though I would like to see the numbers of how high DoD jumped when it became Valve supported.

SjN · December 2003

actually NS was on the 3rd place for about 2 months after 2.0 release.

edit; and sometimes it even went down to the 2nd place. i was watching it...

surprise · December 2003

do i remember right?
hasnt ns already beaten tfc?
and fell back again?

Soberana · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XCan @ Dec 15 2003, 12:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> TFC is nearly as braindead as CS and unfortunetly most computer players are kids who are stupid and braindead so I doubt it.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Damn. I will have to tell all the professional gamers and teams that make money off it that. Brb.

SlothropX · December 2003

The better question will be, do we want these people?

Unlike most mods, in NS a single player can ruin things pretty handily. The noob who jumps in the cc without asking, or who drops MC five seconds into the game, will be a lot more common when the TFC/DoD/CS crowd suddenly discover NS.

Of course it'll be better for NS in the long run to have wider circulation, but damn, it is going to suck for a while to play on the pubs.

surprise · December 2003

then dont play pub <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>
if you want to pm me and ill give u you our ip and pw, you always welcome <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>
server is often empty, but when ppl join its great fun <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

and btw, its just a game:
if i loose because i had fun with newbs together i dont mind <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>
just doing some s**t <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Smikies · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SlothropX @ Dec 15 2003, 03:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The better question will be, do we want these people?

Unlike most mods, in NS a single player can ruin things pretty handily. The noob who jumps in the cc without asking, or who drops MC five seconds into the game, will be a lot more common when the TFC/DoD/CS crowd suddenly discover NS. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
actaully mc is ok, just about as good as dc...i mean mc pwns at taking back hives to a point.... just put up a hive have turrets attack it have everyone mc to the hive, take it back. However In 3.0... i really dont no about 3.0.... lol

IBT · December 2003

if anyone with taste played games, we see them storming NS and DoD. i can see it now...

NS - 58391
DoD- 58170
CS - 4
TFC- 2
Ricochet- -600

DramaKing · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rafIBT @ Dec 15 2003, 04:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> if anyone with taste played games, we see them storming NS and DoD. i can see it now...

NS - 58391
DoD- 58170
CS - 4
TFC- 2
Ricochet- -600  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
youre cool

no really

semipsychotic · December 2003

I bet about -600 people are playing ricochet right now. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

SjN · December 2003

Ricochet, this mod is bs. i bet it was made by only one person.

IBT · December 2003

damn u dont think im cool? im hurt. u really hurt me uhh.. whats-your-name. and last time i checked, richochet had 300 ppl playing, but that was 1/2 year ago, so i thought i try it and it was by far the most pathetic game i EVER played. in it reign of patheticness it utterly dominated Sprouch mod (i think thats it)

Ezekiel · December 2003

how is cs brainless at all?

MrMojo · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Smikies @ Dec 15 2003, 03:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
actaully mc is ok, just about as good as dc...i mean mc pwns at taking back hives to a point.... just put up a hive have turrets attack it have everyone mc to the hive, take it back. However In 3.0... i really dont no about 3.0.... lol  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
MC provides needed adren for the lerk ( which is quite useful with the new lerk flight, especially if you couple it with focus).

Just because you like a game, that doesn't mean "everyone with taste" will like it. I, personally, can't stand DOD, and TFC is quite fun.

Namron · December 2003

Those numbers suck, they doesn't say anything. I would advice everyone to ge check the stats at <a href='http://www.csports.net' target='_blank'>CSPORTS.net</a> instead. They have a log over unique players the last 31 days. Those numbers looks like this:
<ul><li>Counter-Strike - <span style='color:orange'>5,778,881</span>
<li>Day of Defeat - <span style='color:orange'>389,254</span>
<li>Team Fortress Classic - <span style='color:orange'>160,911</span>
<li>Natural Selection - <span style='color:orange'>85,207</span></ul>As you can see; it's much more accurate.

Natural Selection will get more attention as a official Steam mod and therefor (most probably) get more players than Team Fortress Classic.

Andos · December 2003

Cs can be fun sometimes but only if you play with your friends <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>
I can't see the fun in war mods (like world war mods) where all the guns are so unaccurate that it's a matter of luck if you hit your enemy. NS has much more fun action where the battles could be fought in every possible way. No NS game is the same. In shooting games it's much more about aiming at the enemy and pull the trigger and.... No more game in it. Nut much strategy in comparison to NS <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Kar · December 2003

So you're telling me over 5 and a half million NEW people played CS within the last month, ontop of the regular lot... I find that hard to believe.

- Kar

buZZard · December 2003

Not new but unique.. or in other words: the stats say that the last 31 days 5,778,881 different people played cs. Got it?

Kar · December 2003

That would make sense, very well.

- Kar

pSyk0mAn · December 2003

i guess that's too much.
the stats say that the last 31 days 5,778,881 different nicknames played cs.
Now think about those nick-fakers, changing clantags in nicks and other examples
and imagine the real amount of cs-players.

SlothropX · December 2003

Yeah, they always refer to it as the number of names, so I wager they're only tracking username and not ID. Also, think they're still including WON logins?

I find it interesting that TFC has well over twice as many names, but closer to 50% more active players right now. Quite the disparity.

It made me sad to look down the list and see that six people are playing FLF right now. That was a great mod, and was at least as big as NS in its hey-day. Now...6. Sigh.

DramaKing · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rafIBT @ Dec 15 2003, 04:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> damn u dont think im cool? im hurt. u really hurt me uhh.. whats-your-name. and last time i checked, richochet had 300 ppl playing, but that was 1/2 year ago, so i thought i try it and it was by far the most pathetic game i EVER played. in it reign of patheticness it utterly dominated Sprouch mod (i think thats it)  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Heres the point

nm it flew past you already

Will Ns Overtake Tfc

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