Half-life 2
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<div class="IPBDescription">Your Concerns</div> Me personally, I'm pretty psyched about HL2. I was waiting for Call of Duty more than it, but now I want HL2 just for the juicy physics engine(half the stuff I did in Halo & Deus Ex:IW was screwing with the physics engines). Some people have said they don't hope HL2 is dumbed down for consoles, which to be honest I don't see how dumbing it down is possible at all. I mean, you run around, do the crouch jump, and shoot stuff. The AI is smart as hell, and the physics system will pwn.
Modding possibilities will be endless. I personally plan on making a mod where the only weapon you have is the gravgun, so you have to use physics to do everything, which even I know will kick ****.
I just wonder what your concerns are, cause I don't have any myself. The only way they could screw this up is by having a crap story and crap levels(which from just the video I saw, I'd pay $50 for just the stuff in the 600mb video).
Modding possibilities will be endless. I personally plan on making a mod where the only weapon you have is the gravgun, so you have to use physics to do everything, which even I know will kick ****.
I just wonder what your concerns are, cause I don't have any myself. The only way they could screw this up is by having a crap story and crap levels(which from just the video I saw, I'd pay $50 for just the stuff in the 600mb video).
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Seriously, it won't disappoint; there's something about the engine that looks so <i>solid</i> like the original HL looked.
HL2 Turning into TF2.
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What are you TALKING about? HL2 is HL2. TF2 will probably be its opening multiplayer, which I see no problem in, because TFC rocks. These short answers that don't explain the problem are quite stupid in a quite serious discussion.
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What are you TALKING about? HL2 is HL2. TF2 will probably be its opening multiplayer, which I see no problem in, because TFC rocks. These short answers that don't explain the problem are quite stupid in a quite serious discussion. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
TF2 was supposed to be released years ago, it just disappeared until recently.
I'm worried about HL2 taking that and the DNF route.
Exactly. Imagine driving like a buggy or something into the heart of a kharaa hive in a cavern. PWN. Think blue gender <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Concerns.. er... that the MP will be littered with hacks due to the sourcecode being stolen.
Duke Nukem Forever. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Well short of making it dissapear like DNF and TF2,
I dont mind waiting a little longer for a quality game then having a rushed out buggy POS.
I dont think Ill have to worry about HL2. but if comes out like DX2 IW I think Ill retire my gaming PC and find a new hobby.
And that has anything to do with HL2?
The pay to play scheme is only in effect IF you purchase HL2 through Steam, if you buy it in a store like any other game, that's it, it's yours, no paying to play necessary.
I mean, how many times have you seen a question about the NS flamethrower being answered with "Thats what HL2 is for"
Who says that the HL2 engine will be able to do good looking, volumetric fire that is also easy on server and client CPU? HL2 will probably raise a good number of the limitations and solve a fair number of problems, but it won't get rid of limitations and it won't solve all the problems.
I mean, how many times have you seen a question about the NS flamethrower being answered with "Thats what HL2 is for"
Who says that the HL2 engine will be able to do good looking, volumetric fire that is also easy on server and client CPU? HL2 will probably raise a good number of the limitations and solve a fair number of problems, but it won't get rid of limitations and it won't solve all the problems. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
All signs point to HL2 being <i>easier</i> to modify than HL1, and naturally more powerful. If RTCW and Unreal 2 can handle volumetric flamethrowers online, then you better believe HL2 can.
- Did MP2 ruin all the Physics-engine fun? D:
- Will my 2.0GHz, Geforce4 ti4600, 512MB DDRAM computer run it? D:
Oh, and all my dreams about the coolness being ruined. Like for example, blowing up a cement wall with a satchel charge to create a new doorway... or a mod that has lightsabers and you can cut doors if the walls are thin enough! :O~~
And that has anything to do with HL2?
The pay to play scheme is only in effect IF you purchase HL2 through Steam, if you buy it in a store like any other game, that's it, it's yours, no paying to play necessary. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
how do you know, you work at vavle maybe? Or you got some secret documents that is says on their deaths that it will not be required?
This topic is about your concerns about halflife 2 or did you totally miss that point by a mile or two.
My only concern is pay to play. I don't care if the engine is faulty or if the multi- singleplay suck. I'll find it out sooner or later.
1. leaked code = exploits in multi (as if HL1 exploits werent bad enough)
2. Opp Force made weapon binds availible in GUI if they do that with HL2 it will turn into HL2 on crack (like HLDM was before the last good servers died out <Creature Feature DM>) and you wont even have a justified reason to btch at the taujumping/naderocket-throwing/lookbehind-bind using sluts.
3. Weak Lighting (the main reason game is delayed IMO)
and my worst fear HL2 = Red Faction 2
Red Faction was an awesome game, and Red Faction 2 made me cry.
anyway I stopped holding my breath, my only hope these days is the follow up to Operation Flashpoint by Codemasters.
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man i just can't get over how its gunna be released in april
man even though its january --
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And that has anything to do with HL2?
The pay to play scheme is only in effect IF you purchase HL2 through Steam, if you buy it in a store like any other game, that's it, it's yours, no paying to play necessary. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
how do you know, you work at vavle maybe? Or you got some secret documents that is says on their deaths that it will not be required?
This topic is about your concerns about halflife 2 or did you totally miss that point by a mile or two.
My only concern is pay to play. I don't care if the engine is faulty or if the multi- singleplay suck. I'll find it out sooner or later. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Esuna is right. It was stated several months ago that there were a plethora of different paying/buying schemes. It even made planet Half life. If you aren't paying attention it's not his fault.
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And that has anything to do with HL2?
The pay to play scheme is only in effect IF you purchase HL2 through Steam, if you buy it in a store like any other game, that's it, it's yours, no paying to play necessary. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
how do you know, you work at vavle maybe? Or you got some secret documents that is says on their deaths that it will not be required?
This topic is about your concerns about halflife 2 or did you totally miss that point by a mile or two.
My only concern is pay to play. I don't care if the engine is faulty or if the multi- singleplay suck. I'll find it out sooner or later. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dear God, please smite down the ignorant from your gracious Earth, so that posts such as this one shall not be suffered by the righteous. Amen.
Half-Life 2 will <b>not</b> be pay-to-play unless you want to buy it off Steam rather than in a shop, but even then it's the same price.
It has been confirmed by Valve and a million other sources.
Either:
A. You end up with 2 copies of HL2 taking up your disk space (one normal, one Steam) or
B. You end up with only a Steam copy of HL2 (assuming you want to play multiplayer).
Now, I realize that to some people, this doesn't sound bad. Some people really like steam, and that's great. There are some things I really like about it too. However, there are some things that really infuriate me about it, like uninformative error messages, "This game is not available" (HOW? IT'S ON MY MACHINE FOR CHRIST'S SAKE), occasional mixups and shutdowns, etc. I realize that steam is much better now than when it started. I appreciate many things about the program, and I think it's a very good combination of a server browser and instant messaging program, most of the time. I just really, really really wish that it wasn't an all or nothing choice. What happens if steam is down and I want to play HL2 single player? History has shown that this is sometimes impossible, when the steam network is under a lot of stress. Like, say, the release of a highly anticipated sequel....
Anyways, that's my concern. Disagree if you wish, I don't mind. I figure there's probably a few people out there in the same boat as me.