[mcon] Avro S71-nk

Billy_Silverfish · November 2003

Still in need of more detail at the back, but with vents on the front, and a basic colour layout:

rabbity · November 2003

the grip kinda looks un-ergonomic, its like straight down

Billy_Silverfish · November 2003

... because you'll never see the front of the grip in-game. It's not unergonomic - it's <i>eco</i>nomic.

esuna · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Billy Silverfish @ Nov 30 2003, 06:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ... because you'll never see the front of the grip in-game. It's not unergonomic - it's <i>eco</i>nomic.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
....except for the w_model. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Though i totally agree, what's the point in a detailed handle when the v_ and p_ models always have it covered.

-Drake- · November 2003

arg i just finished doing a bit and already ppl colouring it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

BigBull · November 2003

Heres my attempt;

*FIRST TIME USING PHOTOSHOP* I KNOW NUTHING!!EEK!
<img src='http://www.angelfire.com/ga4/bparker/gungun.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Liku · November 2003

LOL Good attempt though! ^_^

MalambisBZ · November 2003

This is your best concept yed Sid, IMO. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Good job with the model Silverfish, please do finish it.

BigBull · November 2003

All i used was air brush

Anyway who is skinning and animating all this

Sid · November 2003

WOAH!

Woah woah woah.

HOLY JAMOLEY!

I... I don't know what to say guys!
Wow, Drake - love the detail!

And Lucid, thats a neat Pistol grip! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>
lol - BigBull - thats a lot better than I can do. Good job! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

BILLY! YOU ARE MY NEW GOD! Thanks so much!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Billy_Silverfish · November 2003

I wasn't so keen on how huge the body was, so I messed with the proportions a bit to make it look a more realistic pistol size. My mind is blank for ideas for extra detail (first person to say a LAM gets a free bullet in the head), so if anyone has any suggestions go right ahead.

Soon as I get that extra detail on and tweak the ejection port a little I'll release it to be meshed (Maus the meanie refuses to show me how - it'd be even more tedious to teach somebody than it was to learn, he says), skinned and animated. What format would people want? ms3d, 3ds, dxf ....?

TheRealVash · November 2003

Sid I think this is your best work yet <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Sid · November 2003

This isn't my Work anymore - hey guys, come on!

LOOK WHAT BILLY'S DOING!
All I did was draw a picture - Billy took time to go and Model it in 3D!

GG, Billy! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Sid · November 2003

Does anybody have any suggestions on details?

How about some Iron sights, Billy?

Or even some fancy vent-looking things somewhere..? *Shrug*

Just some Ideas, thats all. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

LucidReality · December 2003

id say some sort of cocking mechanism. Like a hammer, or a slide. I mean, how does the first bullet get to the chamber? Wouldnt be realistic if it didnt have a way to put the bulelt in the chamber.

Bijiy · December 2003

Maybe an LED flashlight undermount, we all know how dark some of those places the skulks like to hunt in can be...

Sid · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Billy Silverfish @ Nov 30 2003, 04:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What format would people want? ms3d, 3ds, dxf ....?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Most people around here use MilkShape - and then 3dsMAX if I'm not mistaken.

Some use Maya, too..

Lots of options! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>
But I'd go with Milkshape.

Sid · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Dec 1 2003, 02:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Maybe an LED flashlight undermount, we all know how dark some of those places the skulks like to hunt in can be...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I like the firing mechanism idea.

Anyways - I don't mean to pester, Billy, but how is the progress? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Bijiy · December 2003

On what? If you mean my new concept, not well. I wanted to use the main body of a p90, the magazine of an MP-40, and use the other little doo-dads of the g36c (the sight and stuff) to finish it out. As of late they're not meshing as I wanted them to...

Billy_Silverfish · December 2003

Slightly fancier vents on the front (a little like Drake's picture), and a higher-poly chamber are the only changes tonight. I still need to find something non-silly to liven up the back of the gun.

However, without a skinmesher this model is going nowhere fast.

Sid · December 2003

Glad to hear you're fancy-ing it up. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Skinmesher...

Hmm...
WE NEED A SKINMESHER! >.<

There are a couple "Popular" ones... but they have other projects and are hard to get a hold of. =(

DocterJ · December 2003

If this ever gets meshed, i hope the meshes are released, cause i for one would like to skin it.

Bijiy · December 2003

Well there ya' go.

Drfuzzy · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sid @ Nov 29 2003, 03:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Introducing the Avro S71NK!

It is some sort of Machinepistol.. or SMG.
What do you think this would suit more, the Pistol or LMG?

-The big boxy-looking thing mounted on the top of the Firearm is supposed to be some-sort of Holosight. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>
-The weird thing protruding out of the lower part of the Pistol grip is some sort of fancy Foregrip.

Anyways, Comments / Suggestions? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Thanks for your time,
-Sid  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
all i have to hear is holo-sight/scope/grenade lancher and you can say -=NO=-

BlackPanther · December 2003

This thing is growing on me...

GET IT OFF ME! GET IT OFF ME!!!
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Good stuff so far.
PLZ!!! Keep with the NS weapon's color scheme.

And yes i want a hollow sight as well <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Billy_Silverfish · December 2003

BP - do you mean this kind of TSA green we have here, or something like the fugly washed-out green of the TSA weapons?

Here be the vents on the front (I'm figuring something like the TSA logo would go in the gap there), and some plates on the back to add detail. The top of the back still needs something though. Ordinarily there's be a sight there, but I dodn't want to interfere with the bizarre yet oddly neat holosight shark fin thingy.

edit: it's an unoptimised 1300 polys at the moment, so ideally I don't want to be adding much more.

-Drake- · December 2003

u should angle the vents at the side
i donno it look a little simple

//:EDIT Ignore me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'>

Bijiy · December 2003

You should drop the second set of three vents and just have the forward four, it just seems more practical.

Sid · December 2003

This may sound stupid, but how about adding some sort of "Hammer" - or even an "eye lead" (Some sort of Iron-sigh thing <i>pointing</i> towards the strange "Holosight/shark-fin" thing?) <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

...I don't know.. XD

Bijiy · December 2003

Maybe he could give it some more width, and the hollow it out and then put a red dot sight on it (If you don't know what a red dot sight is...talk to sheena).