[con] The M3-0w

SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
edited November 2003 in NS Customization
<div class="IPBDescription">Har har... XP</div> Well, here's the story:

I was trying to figure out what to do next in the way of concepts - I was trying something original, but my tiny brain could not come up with anything, so I just began q uick doodle - I was going to attempt texturing something, useing PSP's built-in texturing thinger.

I spent off an on working on this: five minutes here, three seconds there - and in the end it didn't turn out <i>bad</i> - I had to use no AA line mode so I could texture it properly: BUT-

It didn't work - PSP wouldn't recognize the lines, and would crash.
So.... I opened up MS Paint and did a bland paint job to it. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->


How come none of my concepts ever turn out the way I want them to?!

As for the pistol - nothing really new...
-It's compact, yet has a long barrel, capable of firing 9mm (or larger) bullets
-Instead of a safety <i>switch</i> it has a safety <i>slide</i> ...YAY!

Enjoy! XP
P.S. Comments? Suggestions..?
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  • StrabismoStrabismo Join Date: 2003-10-27 Member: 22052Members
    edited November 2003
    It doesn't looks very ergonomic... like the first Nintendo controls <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Also: Ejection window is too large if you compare it to the handle and too much foward and magazine lock should be at front of the handle not rear

    If you want to make it futuristic, just say it uses 4.6mm or 5.7mm rounds

    Make little modifications and I'm sure it will rock <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Hows this? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • rabbityrabbity Join Date: 2003-07-02 Member: 17866Members
    still need more designs and stuff, it looks plain as it is

    the ejection port is still too far to the front
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  • StrabismoStrabismo Join Date: 2003-10-27 Member: 22052Members
    edited November 2003
    I agree, move back the ejection window and move the grip a little bit foward

    What's the kind of strange shape at the rear of the ejection window?

    I like the rear-hand-protector, maybe you could lower it a little and make it longer.
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  • XiileXiile Join Date: 2003-02-22 Member: 13818Members
    I agree it does look very... basic.
    Maybe add flashy designs on it or something? Gah I dont know I'm tired I need CAFFEINE.
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  • MilitaryPoliceMilitaryPolice Join Date: 2003-10-12 Member: 21623Members
    *looks at sig's signature* "What were you expecting? A fancy sig?"
    *looks at concepts* Its missing: "What were you expecting? A fancy concept? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> "

    LoL... since we are on the subject, why dont you make a nintendo laser gun for ns! that would classic <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • StrabismoStrabismo Join Date: 2003-10-27 Member: 22052Members
    edited November 2003
    you mean this?
    <img src='http://www.studio8.net/Articles/PICS/gun.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    eeewww, it's ugly!

    If you use that in NS, you will have infinite ammo but you cannot go kill a hive with it beacuse the wire connected to the armoury is not long enough <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Smiley_XSmiley_X Join Date: 2003-06-07 Member: 17071Members
    You sure can kill alot of ducks though <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    nice concept
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  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Strabismo+Nov 27 2003, 12:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Strabismo @ Nov 27 2003, 12:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you mean this?
    <img src='http://www.studio8.net/Articles/PICS/gun.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    eeewww, it's ugly!

    If you use that in NS, you will have infinite ammo but you cannot go kill a hive with it beacuse the wire connected to the armoury is not long enough <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    rofl some one make a pack with that as pistol and super scope as HMG or LMG
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  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    if i am correct, someone has already modelled that <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Daza4Daza4 Kerc Kasha Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15233Members
    Yeah its for HLDM. I saw it somewhere i just gotta find it again.
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  • KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
    there are nintendo zapper models for AHL at www.havenofrags.com
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  • NottinghamNottingham Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10002Members
    edited November 2003
    <a href='http://actionut2k3.ngz-network.de/hof/weapons.php?weapon=139' target='_blank'>http://actionut2k3.ngz-network.de/hof/weap....php?weapon=139</a>

    ooops... Kaine allready said that
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    I'll see what I can do about my concept - it's certainly not one of my best. =/

    That little thingy beside the ejection port is the extractor.
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  • StrabismoStrabismo Join Date: 2003-10-27 Member: 22052Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That little thingy beside the ejection port is the extractor.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dude, the extractor is supposed to be inside the chamber when slide is realased. Not outside. I have no idea how you can grip the casing this way...
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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Dude, the extractor is supposed to be inside the chamber when slide is realased. Not outside. I have no idea how you can grip the casing this way...

    This post has been edited by Strabismo on Nov 27 2003, 11:16 AM <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->




    inside is the ejector.. the extractor goes from outside trough a uhm.. slot into the chamber ,where it can reach a 3-5mm piece of the casing-dish...(depends on the pistolmodel)
    some pistols got them inside..but most of them outside, because you can build them much slimmer that way...

    <img src='http://www.lawtonpd.com/images/pistol.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    <img src='http://www.kahr.com/images/may_gun_2_1.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    "DUDE" dont post negative stuff about his designs, he got way better on the mechanics, we telled him often enough how a pistol is supposed to work.. uhm sid..move your port a lil bit back.. over the trigger would be fine.. and make the trigger guard a lil bit longer.. its more comfortable,and the triggerway should be longer..
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  • StrabismoStrabismo Join Date: 2003-10-27 Member: 22052Members
    edited November 2003
    You are right and wrong at the same time. First, it is possible that the extractor is outside of the slide and I never said it wasnt impossible but if you look athe the drawing, the extractor's grip is on the side of the barrel. That means that the extractor has no grip on the chambered bullet. Your Glock's picture and Sid's picture don't show the same thing. all I can say is that the way it is drawn, the exctractor cannot work. I know it is a negative but it is constructive.

    And don't think I don't know anything about weapon's mecanics, thrust me.

    And when I say the grip should be a little bit more foward and the ejection window a little bit backward, it's beacause there is a reason. When the weapon fires, the slide must move back enough so the ejection window is a little bit more backward than the grip so the slide can pick up another bullet in the magazine when it starts moving foward. If you look at the picture, the slide must move way too much backward for that.
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  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Strabismo+Nov 27 2003, 01:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Strabismo @ Nov 27 2003, 01:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you mean this?
    <img src='http://www.studio8.net/Articles/PICS/gun.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    eeewww, it's ugly!

    If you use that in NS, you will have infinite ammo but you cannot go kill a hive with it beacuse the wire connected to the armoury is not long enough <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oooh oooh! Is there a dog that pops out and laughs when you let the lurks get away?
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  • MilitaryPoliceMilitaryPolice Join Date: 2003-10-12 Member: 21623Members
    Hahaha and then the gorge laughs at you instead? and if you shoot it, then the onos comes after you :-D

    Happy turkey day, guys
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    Somone should make a bullpup style machine pistol.
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  • StrabismoStrabismo Join Date: 2003-10-27 Member: 22052Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Revolver+Nov 27 2003, 02:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Revolver @ Nov 27 2003, 02:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Strabismo+Nov 27 2003, 01:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Strabismo @ Nov 27 2003, 01:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you mean this?
    <img src='http://www.studio8.net/Articles/PICS/gun.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    eeewww, it's ugly!

    If you use that in NS, you will have infinite ammo but you cannot go kill a hive with it beacuse the wire connected to the armoury is not long enough  <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oooh oooh! Is there a dog that pops out and laughs when you let the lurks get away? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The REAL question is... WILL WE BE ABLE TO SHOOT THAT **** DOG!?! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    A bullpup pistol? I can try to draw it but I am sure it will be ugly <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • StrabismoStrabismo Join Date: 2003-10-27 Member: 22052Members
    Here you go, with a hollosight on it, not so ugly after all <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
    <img src='http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-11/486109/bullpuppistol.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Not bad, Star.

    The handle is a but thick, and it would be hard to press the trigger, seeing how the other side of the guard is in the way.

    And, I'm going to work on my horrid concept! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    Here's a quickie based on all the suggestions:

    So, how is it? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • StrabismoStrabismo Join Date: 2003-10-27 Member: 22052Members
    edited November 2003
    Try macromedia flash for gun concept, I made the "ugly-bull-pup-machine-pistol" with it and it took 15 minutes. It is perfect for geometrical shapes.

    Theres vers 1.1 <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
    <img src='http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-11/486109/bullpupuglypistol.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
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