Way Of The Knife
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Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21080Members
Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21080Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Can a ninja exist?</div> I've seen some pretty crazy knife strategies from the crouch and wave in front of you to the bunnyhoppers. Is there any strategies for a ninja knifer to exist? Can a marine take down a skulk head-to-head with a knife?
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at least, everytime ive seen it the guy got accused of hacking and/or banned. i suppose there might be a "elite" knifer, but knife is supposed to loose to bite.
On a more serious note, knife is quite a powerful weapon. It has a very long reach (think katana, not a knife <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ), it has a decent power to finish off a torn up skulk and it can inflict a high amount of damage over time without a need to reload. But in one on one, your would be better off with firearms, since shurikens aren't available in NS <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
but yeah the knife is really strong and it will kill a skulks faster than, well, the welder.
AFK skulks don't count...
But really the knife is an incredibly powerful weapon. It does more damage per hit than any of your guns and it shakes the screen of any opponent you hit and it's attack range is actally longer than bite. Back in 1.04 when skulks were easier to kill with pistol you could put 4 bullets into a skulk and finish him off with the knife every time.
Now you are better off using bullets but a knife can still be effective. Try setting up a crosshair for your knife, it makes it a lot easier to land hits. When you are trying to knife someone crouch down and make sure you keep the knife between you and them. keep them right in your crosshair and keep swinging and they won't be able to bite you without taking a hit. If you have armor 3 you can probably beat a fully healed skulk with your knife.
Other times to go to the knife are when you see eggs. They are an easy target for knives. Also when a skulk gets behind a structure and is biting it (like a tf or an rt) knifing is the best way to get them out since shooting will only hit the structure. In vents the knife is great since the skulk can only come at you from one direciton. If you ever manage to sneak up on an alien you could go for an all knife kill just to humiliate him. The chances of it working are slim but the possibility exists.
There is one other interesting application for knives. If you know a fade is coming and you have some teammates around, set up a classic fade trap where when he enters the room someone moves to the door and blocks his exit. However instead of using the rifle, the block guy can use his knife. When the fade gets stuck on you it's easy to land 2-3 strikes. That does tons of damage and disorients the fade even worse.
Thats my quick guide to knifing.
thats why i ALWAYS shoot eggs.
ok there is NO possible way for anyone to kill a full health ANY alien form with a knife unless the following things happen
1) you have an aimbot and/or a speedhack
2) your opponent is 1-2 knife slashes away from death
3) your opponent is a TOTAL n00b to NS and perhaps even to first person shooter games
4) your opponent is AFK
5) there is something wrong with your opponent's vision and/or computer and therefore would impede his/her aim.
6) or your are ****ing lying!
and btw, don't even get started on kniving a fade or a onos to death by urself. that's simply not possible ... unless they are AFK, they are TOTAL n00bs, or you are using an ultra haxoring speedhack.
Silly people with silly dumb knife stories
(oh yeah ... like one time ... i like knived like five onos like in one game man! that was total uber "elite" skillzor!)
but normally speaking, no one, no matter how uber l337, can ever knife a regen onos ... unless he's afk <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Sorry but you are wrong. Saw it twice tonight.
How?
I've killed quite a few good players with knife and been knifed by many as well. I did almost knife a fade from full health once just kept strafin around him while he was tryin to strafe around me. He was a pretty good player too other wise I woulda got the kill. I've only knifed one lerk though and that was just a killing blow type of thing like 2 slashes, but I always try heh.
AFK skulks don't count... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hehe keyser, i've knifed quite a few skulks down that passage out of satcomm, right after they spawn <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> but that was cause they were nubs. knifed a skulk in the underwater passageway from water treatment to feedwater too, all it takes is 4 swipes if they're uncara'ed <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
by the way, i don't think knife range is anywhere close to bite range. I've been bitten from a freaking long ways away before, and i know exactly how long knife range is (it's like, 2 feet in front of you). Try it sometime, walk up to a res tower and back up until you're barely able to hit it...seriously it's not that far
7 for carapace. Carapace had a huge effect back then.
Anyway, the LMG and even the pistol do more damage per second than the knife, so i always use up my bullets first and then decide if i want to reload or slash the beaten skulk. To all the "elite" |{niv3rz out there: do you always run around with the knife out?
<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> /me ( <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> ), don't knife me.
HOW TO KNIFE AN ONOS...
unload all your bullets(pistol too!!) into him dont reload.
run up to him and start knifin!
make sure he cant stomp or he doesnt smack you.
hope he trys to devour you but cant even get close!!!
and yes
you can knife kill a regen onos.
all ya do is knife knife knife because your knife is faster than his regen!!! -30 -30 -30+45-30 -30 -30 -30+45-30. well close enough but do you see?
sorry to say that, but 3rd person view is a cheat.. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
what about a crosshair for the knife? i think that could be counted as a cheat too
knife has no crosshair
so if you got one i think it would be like cheating
if you got a crosshair with an unzoomed sniper in counter strike it's also a cheat
sure it's ns and not cs
but if they wanted a croasshair for the knife they would have made one
and there is none
i think some ppl should overthink what they are using to get more kills or knifekills...
anyway the won't do it <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
skulks bite range is smaller than the knife radius, so all you really have to do is properly circle-strafe the skulk, and before it realizes whats going on, its dead...at most takes 3-4 slashes to kill it with lvl1-2 weapons, depending on how late in the game it is....
I took on 2 skulks in a scrim once on veil; they were attacking the western skylights rt, we ran around the rt for a bit, then i jumped around and got 3 quick swipes on one of them: dead, then the other one and we had a mad jumping fest trying to avoid the other's melee attack before i got a few swipes on it and it died...after that i promplty died to the first skulk after it respawned....very funny moment, wish i had a demo of it...and no, i dont use any hacks, its very possible.