The Most Lamme Thing Happened To Me

ApocalipsusApocalipsus Join Date: 2003-10-21 Member: 21838Members
I was playing in a NS, i was on aliens it was 6 marines vs 7 aliens. I think i read somehere marienes need to have 1 more player compared to aliens (becouse of the commander i think) then the marines start shouting TEAMS (couse one of their was away) so after 2 min of listening TEAMS i decide to change, teams now are 7 marines vs 6 aliens then after i killed some aliens a voto shows up to kick me, "Why' i ask", "u are beeing lamme u change to the team thast wining" they awser (specially the aliens team awser).

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  • SoberanaSoberana Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17695Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Apocalipsus+Nov 11 2003, 08:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Apocalipsus @ Nov 11 2003, 08:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I was playing in a NS, i was on aliens it was 6 marines vs 7 aliens. I think i read somehere marienes need to have 1 more player compared to aliens (becouse of the commander i think) then the marines start shouting TEAMS (couse one of their was away) so after 2 min of listening TEAMS i decide to change, teams now are 7 marines vs 6 aliens then after i killed some aliens a voto shows up to kick me, "Why' i ask", "u are beeing lamme u change to the team thast wining" they awser (specially the aliens team awser). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • MintmanMintman Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16866Members
    You were completely right to do what you did Apocalipsus, in games of less than 8v8 the marines should definitely have the extra player. The aliens you were playing with can't help being uncourteous idiots.

    I had a similar situation last night where the aliens had more players and I asked someone to swap. The reply I got was "someone will join soon and even the teams". It took 6-7 minutes for another person to join and even the teams by which time the game was more or less over. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Why can't people just even the teams when asked? You don't even have to retry anymore!
  • RiotingNerdRiotingNerd Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20896Members
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  • LucidLucid Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10534Members, Constellation
  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    Given a pool of equally skilled players, 7 marines vs 6 kharaa is more equal than 6 marines vs 7 kharaa.

    The skills of the players on each team probably would make more of a difference, however. Either way, it doesn't get much better than a difference of 1 player. Skill balances are much harder to fix.
  • rennexrennex Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2688Members
  • VoronweVoronwe Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11297Members, Constellation
    I don't switch teams. if I join aliens, I feel like playing aliens. if I join marines...well, you can figure it out.

    I especially don't want to switch teams, if I'm saving res for something - what a waste of my time.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    I think it depends how far in the game it is and what you have done/can do. If the game is already lost/won there's no need to change (level 3/3 with 2 hives locked etc) Better get it over and get the next game more balanced.
    If you are the marine comm, have done everything to control 5 RTs and teched up, it would feel like **** to be forced to go alien.
    But if you the games are about tied, you might just as well change.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Actually, I disagree with that, Mintman. The Comm is probably the most powerful player in the game. Medpack spam can keep a Marine alive for as long as neccessary. He can look anywhere safely. If you're low, there's nothing like a Comm dropping in ammopacks to help out. He isn't putting bullets into the enemy, no. But he's doing something far more dangerous... he's getting time to properly think the game through as it progresses, on an overall level. It's just the people with the FPS mentality that see themselves as playing 'man down', when without that player reserved, they would be dying very quickly. And repeatedly.

    As far as I'm concerned, a late-joiner when the teams are balanced should either go Random, or join whichever team (s)he prefers.
  • Raistlin6Raistlin6 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4420Members
    edited November 2003
    Respect Talesin <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Edit:
    Ok I have something to add <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
    The Post of Talesin touched me deep in the heart <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    and i only want to pay respect to his post
    and respect to his person that i have gained <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    By the way a funny fact this may be my first Post but
    I am at least 6 days longer registered in this forum than talesin <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • typicalskeletontypicalskeleton Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 14011Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Medpack spam can keep a Marine alive for as long as neccessary.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This isn't true. While it isn't likely you'll run out of res med spamming, it can happen. But even medspam doesn't always work to keep someone alive.. regardless of all that, though, a commander can't always afford (time wise, not money wise) to medspam a marine [squad] all the time, he's got better things to do.

    He can't see everything, either. If you have a few n00bs or even one rambo, well it can serioulsy hurt your chances.

    I think it's well accepted that one alien can be far more damaging than one marine. It's a lot more common to see one skulk get multiple kills than one marine.. it's even worse with higher lifeforms.

    The commander may be powerful, but without enough marines he's useless. One gorge can single-handedly cap and protect multiple RTs much better than a marine can.. and well.. the commander can drop as many RTs as he wants, but if they're not built and/or defended, they're useless.

    Aliens can't win alone, but they can do far more in small groups or solo than marines can. The game is designed to force marines to move in squads to survive, while aliens can go "hunting" on their own with fewer consequences. Marines need the extra man.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--taboofires+Nov 11 2003, 11:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (taboofires @ Nov 11 2003, 11:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Given a pool of equally skilled players, 7 marines vs 6 kharaa is more equal than 6 marines vs 7 kharaa.

    The skills of the players on each team probably would make more of a difference, however. Either way, it doesn't get much better than a difference of 1 player. Skill balances are much harder to fix. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is BULL!


    Aliens need gorges... gorges cannot always help or be there, like a comm can.

    Aliens need the extra players, ALWAYS, not marines.

    The comm is anything but a man down. He's there making your marines kick some serious as#.
  • Raistlin6Raistlin6 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4420Members
    edited November 2003
    @typicalskeleton
    Heh man this GAME IS ABOUT <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>FUN</span> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    and everybody should do what he likes to.
  • J3kJ3k Join Date: 2003-09-04 Member: 20562Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--RiotingNerd+Nov 11 2003, 09:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RiotingNerd @ Nov 11 2003, 09:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    omg

    +++postcount <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • typicalskeletontypicalskeleton Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 14011Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Aliens need gorges... gorges cannot always help or be there, like a comm can.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Not true again. Think about it.. the commander can drop an RT anywhere, but if there's no marine there to build it, it's useless. That automatically takes two people out of the fight to build something.

    Now what can a Gorge do? Not only can he drop the RT, he can build the static defenses required to prevent marines from taking it. He can do that alone, with his own res, and requires no help. That leaves the skulks free to hunt anything they want, without having to be somewhere to help someone else out.

    Gorges also do have weapons... they may not be the most powerful, but what can a commander do?... Drop CCs on people?.. Yeah, okay. Atleast a Gorge is a gun. Not only is he a gun, but he's also got his own version of "medspam".. it may not be anywhere at any time, but it's incredibly useful. And even his version of the "med pack" is a gun, as well.

    Think about it.

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    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->@typicalskeleton
    Heh man this GAME IS ABOUT FUN 
    and everybody should do what he likes to. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    ?

    I know this game is about fun. But what makes this game fun is the teamwork, if everyone just does what they like to do all the time, well that takes the concept of NS outside, puts a shroud on its head, and shoots it from behind. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • SiliconSilicon Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13683Members
    edited November 2003
    "awser" wha wha whaaat? that's not a word!
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    There is no way the marines should be considered "a man down" because of the commander, and it is simple to prove. If it was true that the commander equaled one less marine player than his absence should have no effect on the game. Try playing the game with no commander (no temp commanders either) and tell me it is the same as having one.
  • RiotingNerdRiotingNerd Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20896Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--J3k+Nov 11 2003, 01:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (J3k @ Nov 11 2003, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> omg

    +++postcount <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    dude the ++ comes AFTER the postcount



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