Why Does Ns Require...
CommunistWithAGun
Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
<div class="IPBDescription">very exact conditions for good gameplay</div>
Why is it that, of any hopes to have a good balanced fun game I have to be
1.)In a clan
2.)6v6
3.)Heavily admined
4.)Heavy amount of regular players
This is in no way a flame-bait, however if you plan to post hostilities, don't waste your time here. Post experiences, suggested fixes, etc.
Why is it that, of any hopes to have a good balanced fun game I have to be
1.)In a clan
2.)6v6
3.)Heavily admined
4.)Heavy amount of regular players
This is in no way a flame-bait, however if you plan to post hostilities, don't waste your time here. Post experiences, suggested fixes, etc.
Comments
I find the exact same thing to be true for CS, which I play a lot. I don't find it enjoyable unless the majority of players know the map, the choke points, how to give backup and cover, and of course be decent at the actual game specifics such as weapons.
Of course I am also a bit social, so to thouroughly enjoy it the players also have to be pleasant, fun and witty, and not have annoying names, habits or communication styles.
Now if you only wondered why games on non-adminned servers are rarely balanced, my theory is that people are weak and stupid, in general.
There are still issues like teamsize that can unbalance aswell but that can easily be fixed with a new or revised res system. As for learning curve etc trying to fix that is up to the player more than the developer as he cant keep simplifying a game so that it is even, no matter what the variables.
I dont know would a manual revision be a good enough fix??
Alot of general NS players wont look at a website to get better at the game, they just keep playing till they realise something. Clans etc do look at these kinds of things.
As for gimps that join just to screw the game well u can expect them anywhere, just think 1 day those gimps will grow up and have even gimpier kids who'll mess it up and ur kids will be the ones complaining.
- RD
Only thing you need for a good game is even teams and people that you know will listen and not lame it up.
Well yeah..you don't remember the "admin_ban MrMojo 0"?
thats what makes pubs not so fun <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
I would like to add one condition :
Vets decide to NOT mass join aliens,skulk rush a bunch of newbies and end game within 1 minute.
Think its not possible?Think again.I once played 5 entire maps of nothing but skulk rush wins,with the vets who did the mass-joined repeatedly complaining that the marines sucked too much.
I think just about all servers needed to be heavily admined - but yes, NS servers do require regular patrol or more community participation to get someone who just spams CCs or does something similar to that.
6vs6 is the optimal number with the resource system. Anything higher is alright but it makes it more difficult for the aliens to get much res from having towers, and more reliant on killing - while marines have their shared pool giving access to buildings at the same rate (granted they expand fine).
I think with any mod, a heavy amount of regular players is preferred. It makes the challenges much more interesting and fun. You can develop gameplaying personalities beyond "Haha headshot noobed."
I'm not in a clan because having a group of regulars to play with in a server is practically the same thing without the drama or requirements.
anyway as to your question there is a relatively simple solution to a lot to the problems with NS. Make only two entrances. 1 - Commander 2- Random team. IE - the first person to join commander becomes the mariens commander. after that all people are added to random teams. there should be a x second delay between joining and being added to a team.
but if you have equally skilled teams, NS is awesome no? games where hives are being built and wrecked left and right..on mineshaft i had that once, i was on alien team and we lost like 7 hives in total lol <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
and everyone was like vgg omg gg vg great game
...but cos NS isnt idiot friendly, it isnt always fun <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->