Why nsf will fail

VoberVober Join Date: 2002-03-27 Member: 356Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Read, and save the idea</div>Why communism failed:
The whole idea behind communism is that everyone is equal, however it requires everyone to take on jobs and responiblities that must somethimes be assigned. Ideally this would be perfection, however in history every time this has been attempted it has failed for one reason. One person would raise above others and become the person incharge of assigning tasks. This person would soon become, supreme master, dictator and ruler of all.

Why NSF will fail:
The idea behind NSF was simple, a network of players and clans that would play together as a team rather than run off on there own like a fool. This concept, much like communism would ideally be perfect, however I have noticed a major flaw.... A leader has risen to assign who will be a regular NSF member and who will be a Provisionary. A simple task, or so it seems.

The last chance to save NSF:
The failure in communism came when 1 person oversaw all, the way to avoid this downfall is to create a system of managing NSF. The perfect system I think would be a system similar to what we have in America, elected representives. Maybe a handful of people representing the genral public,  that would be elected by the NS public.

I recommend that Sgt. X remain webmaster for NS because he has crated a great <a href="http://www3.telus.net/peaches/nsf/nsf.html" target="_blank">NSF webpage</a>
and that we elect a few representives now, and more after the relese....

Comments

  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    This isn't a country. One person ruling everyone in NSF sounds fine to me; it works for other clans. Of course, I don't know anything about NSF and never read the threads, so my opinion is tainted.
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    Nawww.  Why you point has no point, so to speak.

    1.  NSF is not a country

    2.  Sgt. X.  Is not the leader.  He is just pushing NSF along in it's early stages.

    3.  NSF will not be led when NS comes out.  It does not need a leader.  All it is is people playing by a certain set of rules.  All it needs is a few people to check that it's members play by the rules.
  • humbabahumbaba That Exciting Tales From the Frontline Guy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 86Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I'm a part of NSF just as a way of expressing that I support the ideals it represents. Nothign is required of me, as it isnt a clan. Its barely a guild. Its just a lot of people who got together and said "I hate it when people dont play the game how they should, I think I Will play the game how its meant to be played" and decided they would, then slapped a tag on to express that statement. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> . I didnt slap the tag on, cause Humbaba must remain just . .Humbaba, but you guys know me, I wont be Llamaing it up on the servers.

    Oh . . .also. The primary reason of communism's failing was that, there was no incentive to work harder if everyone was equal (and received equal pay), so productivity languished and had to eb forced out of the people through a strong government. However, there is no commodity or status associated with NSF. Nothing to gain or lose by being a part of it. A decent argument, but it just doesnt apply right when looked at from different angles. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->



    <!--EDIT|humbaba|Sep. 03 2002,19:24-->
  • ElowindElowind Join Date: 2002-03-06 Member: 279Members
    sounds like you made the same mistake i did

    nsf isnt a clan, its just a set a laws everyone should fallow, no scrims, no server (that i know of) just a bunch of peopel who play everywhere that are dedicated to team work
  • JammerJammer Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 728Members, Constellation
    NSF won't be organized enough for failure, honestly. Just putting NSF in front of your name will alert other NSF people that you are playing NS for the team experience.
  • Sgt_XSgt_X Join Date: 2002-03-01 Member: 261Members
    Trust me guys, I don't want to be the only one in power, it's just that where it is right now only I can touch webpage. And no I won't put it on geo-cities, I loathe ads.

    As I've put in basicly every single post about NSF I wouldn't refuse someones offer to donate a server for the website or as "The Official NSF Server"
  • BillBill Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1108Members
    Sgt. X is the next Joseph Stalin!
  • Psyco45Psyco45 Join Date: 2002-06-17 Member: 789Members
    <span style='color:lightblue'><b>Grr.</b></span>



    <!--EDIT|Moleculor|Sep. 03 2002,20:41-->
  • JasonBostwickJasonBostwick Blossom Join Date: 2002-04-14 Member: 444Members, NS1 Playtester
    Play nice, Psyco#45.
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    Now now Psyco, calm down.
  • biobrainbiobrain Join Date: 2002-02-18 Member: 224Members
    Ok you don't have to resort to politics. <b>Communism was a system where everyone was supposed to do a perfect job and receive equal pay. Depending on what job they do. For a perfect race, the reason why it failed is Humans aren't a perfect race</b>.(I'm not communist, but I'm not capitalist either, both systems have downs and are ran by idiots). If you look at NSF (which is totally unrelated to communism) if one person actually does rise to power he could be easily *voted* off

    <b>CLOSE PLEASE, before this gets more serious or stupider</b>
  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    I second everything Bio said.  This is just..
  • TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
    This topic had no point. NSF is in no way related to communism, it is simply a code of behavior that people can follow. No-one is a leader or anything, no-one is in power. Sgt. X has no more say in anything than anyone else does. I dont see any reason why the NSF would fail, no matter how much anyone tries to relate it to communism.
  • Spyder_MonkeySpyder_Monkey Vampire-Ninja-Monkey Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 8Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I see NSF as the Jedi Knight II equivalent to -SC- "Saberist Code"... not so much a clan with a leader so much as a group of people who play by a certain set of rules.
  • BillBill Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1108Members
    So basically what everyone is saying is...

    Think before hiting this: <img src="http://www.imahosting.com/sigs/communismwow.jpg" border="0">
  • Sephiroth2kSephiroth2k Join Date: 2002-04-21 Member: 481Members, Constellation
    how was that a good site at all?
  • GobyWanGobyWan Join Date: 2002-02-22 Member: 234Members
    Pardon me for resurrecting this 2-day old post, buu I hasten to point out that the NSF is more of a code than anything like a clan or a guild, and nobody's leading them. Not me, not Sgt. X, nobody. It's merely a set of people who agree to play a certain way. Not a communist government (?).
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