Affirmative Action
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ok, while its not all that.. its a great place to start <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Arg...
Affirmative Action is a policy which purpose is meant to favor minorities in the workplace and in schools.
Seriously guys, if you honestly don't know what it is, look it up, don't open your mouth because you're going to look pretty ... meh, you know what I mean.
and i disagree of course. i'm white! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
On the one hand, whitey has always been a fatheaded jerk to other cultures. However, on the other hand, there is no moral justification that I can fathom to allow say, an Student of Asian descent with a 2.5 GPA to get into a private school over for example, a caucasian with a 4.0 GPA. Despite the fact that us white folks <b>do</b> indeed deserve whatever's thrown at us, I just can't get past the fact that this is just a little...not right.
Yes, perhaps it might be the right thing to do now, to atone for our ancestors' iniquities. However, I also feel that it is one of the major factors in life that perpetuates racism, segregation, and bigotry.
Thus, I propose that if all people the world around could get rid of their prejudices, such awkward things as Affirmative action would never become concieved. If we ould somehow live together, regardless of ethnicity, there would be no need for such things. Is togetherness really that foreign a concept to human dignity?
In conclusion, I blame whitey. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
n.
The act of discriminating.
The ability or power to see or make fine distinctions; discernment.
Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit; partiality or prejudice: racial discrimination; discrimination against foreigners.
<a href='http://www.dictionary.com' target='_blank'>Dictionary.com</a>
According to this definition, affirmitive action fits the bill. How you might say? If two people are trying to get a job and they are equally qualified, one being a minority should not be an edge. If you are making "consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit," you are discriminating. Hiring the minority over the other is giving him special treatment which has nothing to do with his personality.
Even if it is positive, for the other, it is the absence of something positive, which is negative in fact. So in a way, you are prejudicing against the majority by giving minority affirmitive action. NOBODY should have an edge for any reason except that they are qualified enough to have an edge.
You would not believe how much digging I had to do to find that.
A stereotype isn't a lie, it's a generalization based on facts. According to this chart, I think I'd rather hire a black female to babysit my children then a hispanic male. However, I might want to check home security and lock things up, she's twice as likely to commit a theft as I am. A stereotype? Ya. Fact? Ya.
Die affirmitive, action, and burn in hell...
EDIT: <a href='http://caag.state.ca.us/cjsc/publications/candd/cd97/tabs/cd97tb33.pdf' target='_blank'>This one's older, but gives you more information. Rather humerous too... in '97, a black kid less then 10 years old kidnapped someone... heh...</a>
Affirmative Action is a fancy term for rascism then?
Although it tries to address discimination, it does it through discrimination. The term "positive discrimination" was dropped in favour of "affirmative action" to put a nice rosy glow on it. Its discrimination by another name. Choose on the basis of merit.
Although it tries to address discimination, it does it through discrimination. The term "positive discrimination" was dropped in favour of "affirmative action" to put a nice rosy glow on it. Its discrimination by another name. Choose on the basis of merit. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I couldn't agree more.
The most compelling argument I've ever heard was from an African-American woman I work with. While I agree that minorities should not be accepted into a college because simply, they are minorities, there are some cases, mostly in the south, where the minorities are not given the same oppurtunities towards education that caucasians are. Sure, schools are not segregated any longer, but that doesn't mean that racial discrimination isn't happening, and that it is not impacting the lives, education and future of minority children in this country.
My .02
What it always comes down to for me is this: do you want your surgeon to have gotten thru med school because he/she was being given "affirmative action" to compensate for bad test scores that may or may not have been due to lack of opportunities early in life? Hell no - you want your surgeon to be someone that has proven him/herself qualified to perform this surgery, regardless of prior circumstances.
And since when has the less qualified ever deserved more than the more qualified, Samwise?
The moment you reward for reasons other than them being qualified enough is the moment when discrimination in a new form occurs.
The moment you reward for reasons other than them being qualified enough is the moment when discrimination in a new form occurs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What determines "qualification" for financial aid if not need?
Qualification for admission into a school should arguably be based upon the prospective student's ability to perform well at that school. Why? Because the purpose of the admission process is to admit students into a school so they can study there.
What's the purpose of financial aid? It's to allow qualified students to study at schools they might not have been able to otherwise afford. I can therefore think of no reason that financial aid should not be at least partially need-based. Giving financial aid to a millionaire is like accepting admissions applications from alumni.