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shadowkiller · October 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">9600 PRO??</div> Hey guys i just got a 9600 pro and installed it and i am getting horrible frames rates, nice graphics but average of 40 fps in ns.... what is going on, i downloaded the newest drivers and such and it didn't help... also i have all settings (aa) off... what gives?

2of12B0RG · October 2003

Get a 9800 pro. Clear all your old drivers. yadda yadda. this should be in tech help

Ballisto · October 2003

maybe ur fps limit is set to 40... are you in software mode?

Talesin · October 2003

No. The magic words here are (in console or your userconfig.cfg)

ati_npatch 0
ati_subdiv 0

You have Truform turned on. It's enabled by default in Half-Life, and it's a HUGE framerate hit as it by default triples the number of polygons on-screen at once, AND has to figure out how to smooth them (additional calculation). Turn off TruForm, and you'll get a nice pretty 100fps so long as vsync is turned off, and max_fps is set to 100. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>. As well, with that card you've got the beef to handle better texture filtering, so toss in the following line too:

gl_texturemode gl_linear_mipmap_linear

As well, make sure Fast Writes are turned off in your BIOS, for added stability. (Fast Writes are asinine for anything above AGP 2x, anyway.)

Maveric · October 2003

max_fps 100

^^ most important part ^^

and arn't you going to move this [to tech support]? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

shadowkiller · October 2003

I Tried all those things but alas no avail, i even turned trueform off in my graphics card settings.... one interesting thing to note is taht i get 100 fps in teh rdy room, but when i spawn it drops to nothing......i'm about to cry guys i paid 165 for this and its sooo horrible.... i'm running win 98se, latest drivers etc

Forlorn · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (shadowkiller @ Oct 24 2003, 10:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I Tried all those things but alas no avail, i even turned trueform off in my graphics card settings.... one interesting thing to note is taht i get 100 fps in teh rdy room, but when i spawn it drops to nothing......i'm about to cry guys i paid 165 for this and its sooo horrible.... i'm running win 98se, latest drivers etc  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Do you run any backround programs?

How much RAM do you have?

shadowkiller · October 2003

I run nothing at all in th backround and ahve 512 megs ddr pc 2100 memeory

alyandon · October 2003

My old p3-1000 system took a massive framerate hit when going from a GF2 Ti to an ATI 9800 Pro. Nothing I tried (including the settings mentioned above) could push my framerate over around 40-50 whereas I was used to 70-80 typically on the GF2 card.

I'm on a 2.4G P4 now so it really isn't an issue anymore (solid 100 fps most of the time) but I'd really like to know if anyone has ever found a real solution to the problem.

Talesin · October 2003

Seriously, turn off Fast Writes mode (if they're on) in the BIOS, and use those CONSOLE COMMANDS. If you only turn it off in the drivers, HL will *continue* to do the calculations, but you won't see a darn thing. It's the HL engine at fault.

Big_Chief_Brown_Bottom · October 2003

the console commands do not help much. the problem with ati are with their drivers. they are very cpu intensive. anything under 2.4g gets a fps hit. lower than 2.0 and its real bad

Eidolan · October 2003

What is your chip speed?

uberbroke · October 2003

and if you're stuck at 60fps because of winxp, download reforce here:

<a href='http://www.pagehosting.co.uk/rf/' target='_blank'>http://www.pagehosting.co.uk/rf/</a>

and set _every single_ display setting to auto-populate, then restart your comp.

I hope that helps.

Cuz if did for me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Confused · October 2003

actaully i have and 8500 and had really good results with using old drivers and not running direct x nine.fps= 90-100 all teh time
now i am using teh latest drivers cause i have teh homewarld 2 on my pc and thus dx9 and the new drivers and im getting 40-60 with no otehr cahnges so yeah try older drivers.

Marik_Steele · October 2003

<span style='color:orange'>*Phased</span> from general discussion to tech support.

shadowkiller · October 2003

Hey i did everything everyoen suggested (except i have win 98) i have p4 1.5 which should be more than enough and I did the commands in game... and nothing

shadowkiller · October 2003

A problem with NS? maybe.... I was just playing cs and tfc and found out that not only was I getting max framerates, but I could also enable 4aa and get max framerates. Ns on the other hand is going pretty slowly.. especially when I walk by the marine structures... any ideas.. maybe its a 9600/ns compatibilty issue as I noticed another post about slow fps in ns...
ps I did re-format and re-install os/drivers with no avail

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