Ok Kids... Mapping Is Simple...

Supa_Leet_Killa · October 2003

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> Yo, I learned how to map in the matter of 2 hours... all you have to do is read the help page thouroghly* it's not that long... I made my first map in about a week and alot of people like it... if you need help im on aim... Supa Leet Killa is my sn <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'>

CForrester · October 2003

Not everyone is as... erm.... Talented... As you are. Some of them want to go beyond the basics and make something totally beautiful and original.

Nil_IQ · October 2003

Well if you're so great, reply in my thread about jump-pads.

Brodin · October 2003

You learned to map in 2 hours and made a map in a week?

Errm.. yeah as CForrester said, some people go beyond the BASICS, and make something interesting...

Nazul · October 2003

whaha..

ROFL ! ok post your map.. and screens , just 3/4 screen will do

thanks,
Nâz

RPG_Jssmfulhud · October 2003

Wow, I am impressed. It took me 4 years to become a decent mapper and I'm still learning... Good advice reading the manuals though.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

AlienCow · October 2003

Man..i've been working on my ready room for 3 days, and its only just starting to look good...you made a WHOLE, GOOD quality map in a WEEK? No way. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Xiile · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Supa Leet Killa @ Oct 18 2003, 12:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> Yo, I learned how to map in the matter of 2 hours... all you have to do is read the help page thouroghly* it's not that long... I made my first map in about a week and alot of people like it... if you need help im on aim... Supa Leet Killa is my sn <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Yikes, someone has a fetish for smilies...

uffo · October 2003

took hour and a half for me, and didn't even need manuals!

Rokiyo · October 2003

Wow... I've been mapping on and off since just before NS came out a year ago (so only about 5 months of actual mapping time, and I'm just getting back into it again now)...

Sure, while I learnt how to use a map editor in a few short hours by reading heaps, it certainly did not mean I could map skillfully. I can admit that I'm artistically challenged, however I find it hard to believe that anybody could go from no mapping experience what so ever to having finished a full blown high quality NS map in a week... I would very much like to see some screen shots...

/me feels old and slow all of a sudden...

Nemesis_Zero · October 2003

Newsflash for you guys: Mapping is no race. You don't win by being the first one, nor by belittling others; you win by creating quality. Time is secondary - Ekaj, who created Mineshaft, needs months for the completition of a level, but those months <i>show</i>.

uffo · October 2003

Mapping is a RACE! Death Rally! Gambling against the time! Trust no-one!
Easy to tell you aren't mapper

Rokiyo · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uffo @ Oct 19 2003, 07:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>took hour and a half for me, and didn't even need manuals!</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uffo @ Oct 19 2003, 08:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Mapping is a RACE! Death Rally! Gambling against the time! Trust no-one!
Easy to tell you aren't mapper</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Hmmm.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Reese · October 2003

Time it took me to configure, learn to use, and push out something with VHE: 1 hr 35 mins (can't beat uffo, he'll get upset)

Time it took to make my first crapmap: Undetermined, I scrapped it about halfway through

Time spent on my current co_ map that shows some promise: 8-10 hours work time over the past two weeks.... and that's one set of hallways/rooms connecting marine spawn and hive. The point isn't to get there first, it's to look the best when you do get there. No one cares if you can churn out a map a week, unless of course it's something that Flayra would pick up and make note of for his next batch of inclusions. It's good that you read manuals, now try and use that knowledge to make something purdy, not just make something.

jabs · October 2003

If you mad a CS map in that short amount of time, that would be understandable to me since just about all the CS maps are very undetailed and just "hollowed out" rectangles (well, basically...). IMO, NS maps are the best looking maps in all of Half-Life. I, like a few of you that posted here, have been mapping on and off for the past 2.x years and I just can't made a nice looking map... I would also like to see your map so I can learn from it......

Sylver · October 2003

i can't believe how many people wasted their time posting a reply <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

ehrm... including me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'>

uffo · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Reese @ Oct 20 2003, 10:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Time it took me to configure, learn to use, and push out something with VHE: 1 hr 35 mins (can't beat uffo, he'll get upset)  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
If you aren't the fastest, you're a failure!
You have to be fast, cunning and evil to beat others! Posting "What Do You Think - Suggestions"
topics are only excuse for showing pics and thus beating others' mapping morale down!
Mappers don't care about your opinions, they're only listening one-word-long "WHOA" posts!

Do You Have The Guts To Become a Real Mapper?

Reese · October 2003

"The preceding message was paid for by the uffo skewl of 12 minute m4pp1ng!!!11!"

Rokiyo · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sylver @ Oct 20 2003, 06:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i can't believe how many people wasted their time posting a reply <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

ehrm... including me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Heh, we're all mappers here, constructive critisism is just a habit for us. No matter how we feel about something if we reply, the more true spirited mappers always make it sound non-offensive and constructive.

We try to never put others down or do anything that may belittle a new mapper and discourage him from continuing on mapping....

Lol... and I've just realised I was doing it again... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

RPG_Jssmfulhud · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Revenge @ Oct 21 2003, 12:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> We try to never put others down or do anything that may belittle a new mapper and discourage him from continuing on mapping....  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I concur. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Uncledad · October 2003

i know what u mean, i know some mappers that concider them selvs ""elite"" CS mappers but its not even comparible to the newb NS maps ive seen

(yes i am aware this post skipps like the last 7-8 posts)

cyNickal · October 2003

It's good that someone can make a map in around a week, no matter what its quality is <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>
The fact that they stuck to it and enjoyed it is most important <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

I've been level designing since I was 13.... f-king hell i'm 20 now! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> //me feels old... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'>

Anyway, in that time i've learned to use around 7 different level editers for many different games most of them on an almost fluent ground.

Just a shame i haven't released many things , spent most of that time studying comp. programming and computer game design + optimisation techniques <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

It took me 3 weeks to release my first map. It got 75% which, I was told, was a good start for a first release.
(was a really small crappy map, lost to one of many HD formats <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>)

The second map I released got a 9/10 and was called cs_nmsilo... I'll try and upload it for you guys sometime.

Uh, and yeah, mapping is a race if its a contest <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

esuna · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Oct 19 2003, 08:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Newsflash for you guys: Mapping is no race. You don't win by being the first one, nor by belittling others; you win by creating quality. Time is secondary - Ekaj, who created Mineshaft, needs months for the completition of a level, but those months <i>show</i>.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Bah, in that case, ns_youallsuck,iamthegreatest.bsp shall be put to rest. v____v

Ok Kids... Mapping Is Simple...

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